# Chapter Select, [[S4E1 - The Fast and the Furious]] Transcript
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Oh.
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I am uh speaking of which, so I'll just uh we can chat about this real fast before we get going into the actual
*00:01*
Um so I am finishing up Alive Alive.
*00:08*
I I wanna beat it.
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I'm at like the very end of it.
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So I'm I wanna finish that first and I'm gonna play more of it tonight and see how far I can get into it.
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And then after that
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It'll be I'll go s fully switch to Pokemon at that point.
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Are you still gonna be playing that game or what are you doing?
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I'm gonna I'm gonna explore what the post game is here.
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It actually
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Seems kind of interesting.
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And then I'll dabble in the DLC.
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Basically, I'll play this.
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I will start Resident Evil soon, but I will play this.
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uh until we record.
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So I still want to optimize my team and some other stuff.
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So because you and I will battle at some point.
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So Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um I will switch to Pokemon mode probably here in the next couple days for sure.
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That's fine.
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And we've got that date as the
*01:00*
I beat the Star Wars video game yesterday completely.
*01:03*
That was not very good.
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You don't need to play that.
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I only want to dabble with it in VR.
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That's it.
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Yeah, it's not that good.
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Um I just think VR X-wing's always cool.
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It's just fun.
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That's it.
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I'm not there for the story or that would probably be cool.
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Story is boo boo-doo doo-doo.
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Thanks, Mitch.
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Yeah, stories kind of doo-doo.
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Um
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Trying to think what else.
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Yeah, not much else.
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Missions are pretty boring.
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Pretty pretty short though.
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The game's like five, six hours of fee.
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Honestly, that's not terrible.
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No.
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It's kind of appreciated.
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Um here.
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This is something I wanted to show you.
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I got this in the mail today.
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I actually haven't opened it yet.
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Look what I bought.
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Oh no.
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You're one of those people who bought it from Oreo.
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Yeah.
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Because it's worth like $100 right now.
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And I got it for $50.
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I've thought of buying that.
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I can technically still I'll I'll keep it sealed simply because I'm not gonna play it right now.
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I do that with all my games now.
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I don't open them until I play them.
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So if I ever play this where I'm at.
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It also helps me look on my shelf and know how much I've bought and haven't touched.
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I bought Call of Duty Vanguard the other day when that was on s
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I want I hope I get Modern Warfare for Christmas, but I bought this.
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I technically can still check out on the Nintendo store with the collector's edition for
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Chronicles 3.
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If you just go to your cart, it says out of stock, but then if you go to the URL and just add checkout to the back end of the URL, it takes you to the checkout process.
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For the special edition?
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Mm-hmm.
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Have you bought it?
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No, because it's a hundred dollars and I feel bad because I'm
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It's a lot of money.
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Mm-hmm.
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I did just kind of find a nice tiny side hustle to make uh
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250 bucks, so I'm gonna use that for Ragnarok.
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I found one just a quick thing for Ragnarok, so I'm gonna pay with it that way.
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I'm trying to find some side hustles to make some extra money.
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Myself.
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We're working on one right now.
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But that's further away.
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Yeah, we'll see.
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Yeah, kinda excited I got this.
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Includes download code.
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Oh no.
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It's a download code.
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It'll expire.
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I think for the DLC.
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The Pokemon Sword and Shield, they did a DLC release, like cartridge, and it's all on the cart, which I think is kind of cool.
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Yeah, I think I did DLC get this.
*03:57*
I've made a mistake.
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So I pre-ordered from France, Amazon France, the Steelbook double pack for Pokemon.
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And at the time of pre-order it was like 140 euros.
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Roughly 120 bucks.
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So what you'd pay here is.
*04:14*
Sir, cancel this.
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Well inflation and exchange rates are probably way off now, aren't they?
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In our favor.
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Um it is now like ninety dollars US
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Interesting.
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But I promised it to a friend already because I was looking at all my stuff I've had ordered and I'm like, I gotta cancel everything
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Because I know I have to get Scarlet and Violet when it comes out because we'll play.
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So I told him before I looked up the price.
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Because I thought it was 120 bucks still.
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And now it's like ninety
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And so I mean he may come back and say nah I don't want it but I told him I he was with me today and I told him it was ninety bucks so I feel like he's not gonna But if I had looked at that ahead of time
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Knowing now that I should have Ragnarok pretty much paid for, I wouldn't have offered it.
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So I'm a little bummed, but whatever.
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Lesson learned.
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Don't offer things to people.
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Um let's see.
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So this are you still good for Thursday?
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Night to watch Too Fast Too Furious together.
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Uh uh you should be unless something changes
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So how I know how I'm going to watch slash record it.
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I'm just going to sit here.
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I have them digitally.
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What are you doing?
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I have an idea.
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You could rent it.
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You could do that.
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I have an idea for you.
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You have two monitors, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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You could put your PS3 or PS4 in there and just watch it your Blu-ray off that.
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Could do that.
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And just have it piped, have the sound come through your headphones.
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That'd be a little wonky.
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Um, I'll find a way to watch it.
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I could just pull up all the individual clips on YouTube and just watch them in order.
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No the full movies are definitely on YouTube in that way.
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Yeah.
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I uh uh let me see can you But I'm just gonna watch it digitally on my computer.
*06:27*
Can you watch videos that you rent via Amazon on your desktop, I assume?
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You just watch it in your web browser.
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Yeah, that's what I mean.
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Because I'll I just I just rent it from Amazon.
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It's four dollars to rent it.
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Whatever.
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Okay.
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So if I rented it here, I could just pull it up.
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Alright, and then we can record our audio.
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Yeah.
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I mean yeah, as long as I can watch it here, I it I assume Yeah and I can.
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Okay, I'll just do that.
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It's just a couple bucks.
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Yeah, I'll uh I'll have to pipe in the audio so that I have a good clean sync.
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It'll be hella
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I'm watching the trailer for too fast training.
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Don't watch it right now.
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You can't.
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It's too soon.
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Oh, it's ludicrous.
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And Tyrese.
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Yeah, calm down.
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And Eva Mendez.
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I didn't know she was in this or actually I think I did now that I see it.
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She's a prominent character.
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Clearly she's not that prominent, or else she'd be in the other ones.
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I said she's prominent in this one.
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Which means she's a villain.
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Hmm.
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Or it means she's a new love interest for Paul Walker, and then he runs back into the arms of
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Dom sister.
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Um, all right, let's do this.
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Hello everybody and welcome to Chapter Select, a seasonal podcast where we bounce back and forth between a series.
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Exploring its evolution, design, and legacy.
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For season four, we are covering the Fast and the Furious series.
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I am one of your hosts, Max Roberts, and I am joined as always.
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By Logan Moore.
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Hi Logan.
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Max, I live my I live my life one podcast recording at a time or something, however the quote goes.
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I'm sure he says it in the other movies.
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Quarter mile at a time.
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Yeah.
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So like a quarter of a podcast at a time, would that be the equivalent?
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Uh uh I guess it would be probably just one podcast is is maybe one podcast at a time.
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One podcast recording at a time is how I live my life.
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Could you imagine recording multiple podcasts at once?
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Uh no.
*08:51*
I don't know if it's a good idea.
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No, I mean at once.
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Just different shows.
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That'd be that'd be really interesting actually.
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I would like to try that.
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Try to keep up with two different conversations going on in a single time, podcasting while you're podcasting.
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It's a true podcaster's challenge.
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I think back in the day I probably could have done that
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If I'm being totally honest.
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Back when I was in college and I was seriously running we had our whole ring of epis uh shows that we ran and then I was doing some other video gamer ones.
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Yeah, I was on like five at once at one time, which was
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I don't know how I did that.
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And then I was going to college and then I was playing 80 video games a year or whatever.
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I don't know.
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I think about that sometimes how we used to do that and I I don't or at least I used to do that and I don't understand how I did it.
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You used to play a lot of games every year.
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I did, yeah.
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And now this year I think I looked at my list the other day and I've played about twelve so far this year.
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And four of those have been Banjo Kazooie games.
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So I'm at nineteen.
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And a conqueror.
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I'm at nineteen.
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I mean, so season four here
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We kind of said in episode zero, uh, we've never done movies before, but movies were always part of the plan from the show's inception.
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And the reason we're doing it now is because watching
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Ten movies, roughly two hours apiece is about 20 hour commitment, which is the length of one Paper Mario game.
*10:14*
And all of that extra time is going to allow us to do some personal things in our lives, like move and have a child, but also let us prepare a bigger, more ambitious uh first season for
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Next year, which is gonna be season five, which is Resident Evil.
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So that's part of why we're chosen this.
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But also, Logan's never seen these movies.
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I've seen them all multiple times.
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It's time to bring Logan into the family properly.
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Yeah, I'm excited to do this.
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Uh we talked uh upfront about how
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Or we talked in the episode zero, if you listen to that or not, how you're kind of the expert on this one and the Resident Evil series I'll be the expert on, so please shepherd me through this world of
*10:57*
Cars and street racing and robbery and other things, Corona beers, I guess.
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Corona.
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You can have anything you want as long as it's a corona.
*11:15*
Yeah.
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Man.
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Uh as far as as far as the structure of this uh these episodes is going to go though, so we are switching to movies.
*11:20*
Uh we are going to structure them in the same way though that we have been in our past season.
*11:27*
So if you've listened to
*11:31*
Uh anything we've done with God of War, The Last of Us, Paper Mario, or Banjo Kazooie, which was our last season, uh, we're still going to break these episodes down uh in the same way.
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Which means we're going to lay the groundwork here for The Fast and the Furious, which is the first episode in the series, or first movie in the series, I should say, and it came out all the way back
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on June 22nd, 2001, which was my seventh birthday.
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This movie came out on my birthday.
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I share a birthday.
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With the Fast and Furious, which is interesting because the series started on the same day.
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So what what a s what a day.
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A historic day, some may say.
*12:09*
Yeah, I don't know what I was doing on my seventh birthday, but I do remember seeing commercials for this film, which we can talk about in a second.
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Uh it was directed by Rob Cohen.
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uh produced by Neil H.
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Moritz.
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The writers on the film were Gary Scott Thompson, Eric Birkqwist, and David Ayer.
*12:24*
David Ayer was
*12:29*
working on this.
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I forgot about that.
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The primary actors in the film, obviously we can list a lot of people here, but you know, you got Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Michelle Rodriguez, and then Jordana Brewster.
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Uh the composer of The Fast and the Furious is goes by BT
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His full name is Brian Wayne Transeau.
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Uh we wanted to bring up the stunt coordinator this time around because this will be a big
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uh important aspect of these movies moving forward.
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Uh the stunt coordinator for this one is I believe it would just be Mike.
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Mike Rogers.
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I don't think i might it's either Mike or Mick.
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I don't know.
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Mike spelled would be sh short for microphone, but
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So we'll say Mike.
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Uh the budget for this movie was thirty-eight million dollars and it made two hundred and seven point three million at the box office, which
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explains some things to me, uh, which we can talk about in a second.
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And uh the Rotten Tomato score for this one, which is what we're going to go off of this season rather than Metacritic, which is what we usually do with video games.
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Uh the critic score on this was that it uh ended up sliding at a 54% overall, which is not good.
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Uh but uh audiences liked it a little bit more as it sat at a 74%, which is
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Moderately better.
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Um I does Rotten Tomatoes cut off the time for user reviews?
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Because I wonder if there's like been a
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a little bit of revisionist history here with people coming back and rating it higher because of the love of the series.
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Um I I'm not sure.
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I've never been a uh
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Rotten tomatoes person or even a metacritic person when I am rating these things.
*14:05*
Um I think you can do it whenever though to my knowledge.
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Okay.
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I there's a lot a lot here.
*14:15*
I think kind of the big the big stuff is definitely the actors and the budget because
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We will quickly see the budget explode and the return on investment also explode.
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Well, I wanna I wanna state something up front.
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I wanna I wanna hone in on the Rotten Tomatoes score and just the average general consensus here because I told you there was one thing I want to mention up front in this episode, which I I didn't tell you beforehand.
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But
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Again, I am I know nothing about any of these movies.
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And all I know is that it is one of the biggest film franchises in history.
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It's up there with
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Star Wars and Marvel and Rocky, like all these like multi-sequel film like film franchises.
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Like it is one of the largest movie franchises in history.
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My hypothesis before watching any of these movies is that this is the worst mass blockbuster film franchise in existence.
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And by that I mean both like.
*15:15*
How it began cause because it's very bizarre.
*15:18*
This this franchise is different because the one thing I do know from the outside looking in is that most it's like the JRPG of film franchises in the sense that people are always like
*15:21*
Oh well it gets really good if you just get to about the fifth or the sixth one.
*15:30*
It's it's very much like somebody trying to sell you on playing Final Fantasy fifteen and saying, Oh, it gets pretty good once you're about twenty-five hours in.
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Uh so I'm fascinated that this series has stuck around as long as it has when I see that the critics and the even the audience, like I know seventy-four percent on Rotten Tomatoes or whatever, and that's just a small
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look at what people think about this movie.
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Um but even that's not super high.
*15:58*
Like you you brought up that you thought people would be maybe be going back and giving it a way higher score.
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I think it was pretty even back in the day when I was a kid, I don't remember people really
*16:04*
Freaking out about this movie that much.
*16:09*
I mean obviously it made four to five times the budget that went into it, which is good, and that explains how sequels came about and stuff like that.
*16:11*
But when you think about these sprawling film franchises, how they started, like Star Wars became so big because the original Star Wars is a n a great movie.
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Rocky is so big, well the original Rocky's one of the best
*16:28*
most lauded movies of all time won Academy Awards.
*16:31*
Like this, it's like the starting point for this is this movie, which made a decent amount of money compared to how much they spent on it, but
*16:34*
Largely people just kind of shrugged their shoulders and went go see a summer film and then went home.
*16:41*
And that's my impression from the outside looking in, at least.
*16:47*
So I'm so curious to see how this evolves, your opinion evolves over the course of this season as you watch more movies because
*16:51*
There's a key turning point, and the way our season is structured, you're actually not going to see the turning point until later in the season with Tokyo Drift.
*17:01*
So it kinda you're gonna that's the oh let's and then fast four or fast and furious.
*17:10*
sets essentially the tone going forward.
*17:19*
And and you'll see that here as we go through these movies.
*17:22*
But you are coming in with the Fast and the Furious as your only input.
*17:25*
And it's
*17:29*
But that's how it I mean, I guess that's what I'm saying is that's how it would have been for anybody.
*17:30*
Like like this is the order they released in.
*17:34*
Like how did this go on to spawn this huge mega successful movie franchise where we're gonna have what
*17:37*
twelve or thirteen movies and uh we're on ten total.
*17:44*
Eleven, which is fast ten, and fast ten's two parts, or fast ten and eleven, I guess.
*17:47*
Yeah.
*17:52*
So there's
*17:53*
Twelve m twelve thirteen movies total, I guess, in all T V show and games and uh theme park ride.
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It's
*18:02*
And the starting point is just this movie.
*18:02*
That's what I'm trying to express.
*18:05*
It's crazy that this ma mega successful media franchise, the starting point is this movie that got
*18:07*
middling responses from both critics and audiences.
*18:12*
Again, people don't hate it, but it's just kind of a thing you would go, uh oh, I'll go see this car movie at the theaters.
*18:15*
And then
*18:22*
Skip forward 20 years and it's one of the biggest properties on the planet.
*18:23*
It's like, huh?
*18:26*
What?
*18:27*
Like it doesn't track with how we've seen a lot of other franchises blow up.
*18:27*
I think we'll we'll touch on it in in this episode, I believe, and then it definitely obviously is a theme going forward, but
*18:33*
I mean, you you've talked about it as really one of your only frames of reference is the family, family, family.
*18:40*
There is a nugget in this movie.
*18:47*
that I think resonates on some just Hollywood entertain the masses level of just unity and banding together type stuff.
*18:49*
I mean
*18:59*
I'm not saying Fast and Furious is Star Wars, but that's part of Star Wars, is this ragtag group coming together and overcoming something.
*19:01*
Or, you know
*19:08*
Avatar is technically a ragtag.
*19:10*
These different things.
*19:12*
It's just kind of coarse human storytelling and what they eventually do with that over time.
*19:13*
Well we'll explore it, but the theme of family is definitely essential here.
*19:18*
And I'm not even trying to uh undersell this movie because I actually kind of like this movie.
*19:22*
This movie's fun.
*19:28*
Yeah, we'll get into it here.
*19:29*
Uh before we talk too much about just our general thoughts, uh let's go into our own histories with this
*19:31*
Uh again, I don't know if you have a more extensive one than I do.
*19:37*
I actually do have a history with this, sort of.
*19:40*
I'm I'm excited to hear this.
*19:43*
I want to hear what you have to say.
*19:45*
My history with this particular film isn't
*19:46*
that exciting.
*19:49*
So the only history I have with this is I just remember when it was coming out.
*19:49*
I remember seeing commercials and trailers for it and not thinking much of it.
*19:54*
But for the and the this is the reason this stands in uh stands out in my head, is that my grandpa really wanted to see this movie.
*19:58*
And if you know my grandparents, both sets of my grandparents, I'd say
*20:05*
My grandparents on my mom's side are a little bit more uh they're not like pop culture savvy or something or anything like that.
*20:09*
My like my gr my grandparents on my dad's side, like they'll go see Marvel movies and bit like
*20:19*
Like if it was my dad's dad, who was like, oh, I want to go see the Fast and Furious.
*20:23*
In my mind I'd be like, okay, that tracks.
*20:27*
For some reason though, I have this clear image in my head of being at my mom's parents' house, my my mom's side grandparents
*20:29*
And my grandpa, who's probably would it would have been mid to late sixties by when this came out, would have was like, oh, I want to go see this movie The Fast and the Furious.
*20:37*
And I was like
*20:46*
What?
*20:48*
Uh and so I just remember we went to the movie theater at one point and I I actually tried to look this up the other day
*20:48*
uh to go see because I went to the movie theater and I would have gone to go see something with my grandma and then he went to go see th uh a a showing of this
*20:55*
And he may have gone with like my uncle or something like that too.
*21:04*
I just remember that we went to the movie theater and split up and he went to go see this, and I went to go see something with my grandma.
*21:08*
And I even looked up like what movies were coming out around the same time as this that I would have maybe gone to go see.
*21:13*
I couldn't f find anything that really like rang a bell.
*21:19*
Um but I do have a distinct memory of going to the theater and he went to go see this movie
*21:23*
And he was like, Yeah, it was okay afterwards.
*21:30*
But again, it's just it's funny just if you know my grandparents that I'm referring to, because he is not the kind of person
*21:33*
who would ever like if you think of if I think about my grandpa, like, the last thing I would ever think about is street racing, like
*21:42*
youthful I I don't know, a bunch of young twenty-somethings racing cars in the streets of LA movie and how somehow he he what he's interested by that and wants to go see it.
*21:51*
Um
*22:02*
Yeah, I guess that my my whole experience with this movie is just that.
*22:02*
And then uh I guess to throw it out there, this is one this is the only movie I've seen before in the franchise.
*22:06*
I mentioned that this is all new to me.
*22:12*
I have seen this movie before
*22:14*
Yeah.
*22:18*
Uh I watched it last year with the attempt of trying to finally watch all of them in the franchise.
*22:19*
I watched the first one.
*22:25*
Never watched any of them again after that, and now we're turning it into content on this here podcast.
*22:27*
Uh so this is the one I have seen before, which is kind of funny that I have seen this movie twice, but I've never seen literally anything else now.
*22:33*
Oh, that's gonna be good.
*22:41*
My my history with this film is honestly boring.
*22:44*
My first Fast and Furious movie is actually Too Fast, Too Furious, and and we'll talk about that in the next episode.
*22:48*
But this just kind of retroactively came into my life.
*22:54*
I w I watched Too Fast, I would have watched Tokyo, and I I just watched this movie at some point.
*22:57*
It's just kind of been
*23:01*
It's just kind of been there.
*23:02*
Since the Fast and Furious entered my life, the first movie has just kind of been around.
*23:03*
So it's not I don't remember the first time I saw this because it wasn't my first exposure.
*23:08*
So
*23:14*
I've just always kind of had some level of a soft spot for this movie simply because it is the first and there are some moments that I particularly care for.
*23:15*
But yeah, my my history of this movie is fairly straightforward.
*23:26*
I just retroactive exposure
*23:30*
What is your general impressions of the movie then?
*23:34*
I I think we both we both touched on that we like it uh uh up the top or a couple minutes ago we mentioned that, but
*23:38*
I just how do you feel about it overall, especially since you've seen all the other ones?
*23:44*
Like I don't necessarily need your ranking within the larger franchise, but it there's a level of purity here.
*23:48*
Cars are a a main character.
*23:59*
Like when we were listing actors, the fifth one could have been cars.
*24:02*
Cars just play a role, and there's just a level of
*24:06*
Amateur's not the right word, but it's just it's young.
*24:12*
There's just I guess it was appealing to a younger audience and your grandfather, but there's there's this younger vibe to it.
*24:15*
Cars are essential to the plot, but there's this layer of crime and undercover cops and all this other stuff that just kinda is in there.
*24:24*
But cars are are still always the focus, and you'll
*24:33*
You'll see how that changes over the course of the series, but there is a level of purity here.
*24:37*
There's, you know, this budding love story and one guy's big tough macho and thinks like the girl belongs to him.
*24:43*
There's this
*24:50*
I'll never go back to jail.
*24:51*
There's just this wholesomeness to it that I find endearing, especially looking back on where all these movies end up going.
*24:52*
There's
*25:02*
There's just something about it.
*25:03*
The thing I wrote down that is probably best s uh best puts into words my feelings on on this film is just
*25:04*
I wrote, I just love the vibe of this movie.
*25:11*
I'm nostalgic for this time period, even though I never really lived in it like these people did.
*25:14*
Like, that's how I feel.
*25:20*
Like I I live we obviously lived through this era, but we were
*25:21*
kids when it was happening, so it wasn't one to one.
*25:25*
But I look back on this and I like I pine for this era of living like
*25:28*
I don't know.
*25:35*
Maybe it maybe I'm starting to sound very old, but there are no cell phones in this movie that people are whipping out and filming as the cars driving.
*25:35*
Like it's just people like
*25:43*
Like this was like the last era before things got like really integrated with the internet and we became really interconnected.
*25:45*
and all of life changed in some major ways that permeate all of culture.
*25:54*
That's one of the things I kind of wrote in the story.
*26:00*
There is an angle of
*26:03*
old versus new school like technology and analog.
*26:05*
There's this purity in maybe I have the fanciest car with a computer plugged into like a super nitrous system and it's like calculating all this stuff
*26:10*
versus I just got Nas under the passenger seat.
*26:19*
Like there's this level of whether you win by an inch or a mile, a win's a win
*26:23*
There's this level of old school and new school coming in in that story, and I think that resonates twenty-one years later, especially for people our age that necessarily were kids at this time and now are like
*26:28*
You know.
*26:43*
They could call they could corn uh cut off an entire street and say, Fine go home, pizza boy, like cop radio, just it was there is this isolation to it.
*26:43*
Race wars out in the desert, it's
*26:54*
It's a it's a bygone era.
*26:57*
Yeah, it just feels like, again, it's weird that I am nostalgic for this, but yeah, very much, very much am, even though I was a youth when this came out.
*26:59*
It just reminds me of like when I think of this time period, I do really think of like this movie.
*27:10*
I think of the rise of Grand Theft Auto and hearing about that as a kid and stuff like that.
*27:16*
Like these are the things I think of when I
*27:20*
Think of the early 2000s.
*27:23*
These are the touchstones I have.
*27:24*
Before we get too much talking about the story and some of the other aspects of the movie that we either like or dislike, um, I did want to bring up
*27:26*
uh one thing here, th which I wrote down.
*27:35*
Oh, um which is just how this movie came about.
*27:38*
Um and neither of us would know about this, I think, and maybe I should have researched this before we talked about this, but
*27:43*
How did this fascination with street racing really begin in the nineties?
*27:49*
Uh was it this movie or was it like I mean clearly it was, and this movie was written
*27:55*
off of things that were ha or it was based on loosely real things that were happening in the real world.
*28:01*
But I I yeah, I don't know.
*28:07*
I mean car colour has always been
*28:09*
A thing.
*28:12*
Cars d since cars are around, cars have been culture.
*28:12*
Yeah.
*28:15*
And touch points there.
*28:15*
And street racing evolves out of that.
*28:17*
So I think that's a natural progression.
*28:18*
But I remember hearing about street racing even when I was when I was a kid outside of things
*28:20*
like just this movie, you know?
*28:25*
And so this movie is definitely based off of a lot of things that would have happened in that era, but is this
*28:26*
I guess my question is, was street was street racing really big in the nineties that which then led to somebody saying, hey, let's make a street racing movie, which was this?
*28:33*
Or was street racing big in part because of this movie?
*28:43*
Like that like it's a chicken and the egg situation.
*28:46*
Like which one really caused the other to
*28:48*
happen.
*28:51*
And I'm going to assume street racing was already a really big thing in the nineties and early two thousands before this movie ever came about.
*28:52*
So here's what Wikipedia says.
*28:58*
Wikipedia coming in.
*29:00*
Director Rob Cohen was inspired to make the film after reading a 1998 Vibe magazine article called quote Racer X, end quote.
*29:01*
About street racing in New York City and watching an actual illegal street race at night in Los Angeles.
*29:11*
Okay.
*29:18*
With the screenplay originally developed by Gary Scott Thompson and Eric Birkquist.
*29:19*
Um the film's original title was Redline before it was changed to the Fast and the Furious, thank God.
*29:23*
Um Well when you think of things from this area, other pieces of media too, and the uh the reason I'm asking whether or not this movie really contributed to street racing stuff being
*29:29*
Whether this was kind of the inception point of that or if this was kind of the product of things that were already happening, is because if you look back even in the early 2000s in the video game space.
*29:38*
We had a ton of street racing games in the early 2000s in the first five or six years.
*29:48*
Like that's midn b back when uh Midnight Club used to be huge.
*29:52*
Uh Need for Speed was very much in that same mold back then too.
*29:56*
I mean there was a lot of different racing franchises that kind of came at came about all at the same time, which were
*29:59*
I mean before 2001, there was one, two, three, five need for speed games.
*30:05*
One, two, hot pursuit, high stakes, and and Porsche Unleashed.
*30:11*
So there's this energy to it.
*30:16*
I think uh Gran Turismo makes an appearance in the movie, doesn't it?
*30:19*
It does.
*30:23*
Yeah.
*30:24*
I think that's part of that car car culture as well.
*30:25*
Yeah.
*30:28*
So
*30:28*
It definitely sounds like a few.
*30:29*
It was all clearly flowing it was all clearly flowing into each other, but um this is the big
*30:32*
Unless I'm wrong again, I was a kid and I have not done thorough uh research into this topic like I probably should have before we started recording.
*30:38*
But this I mean when you think of street racing movies and stuff like that, like there's a lot of video games you can point to from
*30:46*
back then, but this is really the only movie I can think of uh that kind of touches on this sort of stuff, which is why I was wondering
*30:51*
When it uh this feels like it was early like 2001 though, this feels like when that stuff was really popping off and getting big.
*30:59*
So this this kind of came out at a perfect time.
*31:05*
Yeah.
*31:07*
Capitalizing on the market and just the energy there.
*31:08*
And you'll see that continue, especially in Too Fast, Too Furious as well.
*31:11*
So I remember I remember when that movie came out, because that was a thing at my school.
*31:15*
Um we'll talk about that next time.
*31:20*
I remember kids being interested in that film.
*31:22*
Uh let's talk about the story.
*31:24*
And I have a lot of things written down and a lot of things about the plot and the uh writing.
*31:28*
And uh I I don't know where to start.
*31:34*
Where do you want to start?
*31:36*
What would you like to say about the story stuff first?
*31:37*
Do you just want to kind of go in order here a little bit?
*31:40*
Yeah, let's try to stay I mean my notes are in order, so that'd probably help if I'm being honest rather than jumping around.
*31:43*
I mean it opens up with
*31:49*
Three black Honda Civics with Neon Glow.
*31:51*
It may not have been Civics, but Honda's with under green light pursuing a semi-truck
*31:55*
And uh and trying to hijack it.
*32:01*
And Robinson CRT TVs and DVD players and and D.
*32:02*
That's probably the funniest part of this movie in retrospect is seeing
*32:07*
That they're robbing things that have no value in modern day or maybe CRTs do.
*32:11*
I don't know.
*32:16*
You're the one who's got a CRT plugged in in your house currently.
*32:17*
They're quite valuable for the right people, but you
*32:20*
Mass market, no.
*32:24*
I mean when you see the TVs they're putting in the trucks though in this movie, it's like what?
*32:26*
Those are probably the cheapest, crappiest TVs ever.
*32:29*
Uh you can still sell them for a lot.
*32:33*
Yeah.
*32:35*
So it opens up with that and then um I believe then it it cuts right to Brian
*32:36*
Is after the thing.
*32:43*
He doesn't want crust on his sandwich.
*32:44*
He asks if the tuna is crappy.
*32:46*
Should we you want to start there with the uh Toretto's market and cafe?
*32:50*
Sure.
*32:55*
Yeah.
*32:56*
The introduction of all these characters.
*32:57*
This is really where we meet everyone, um, including the fifth star cars.
*32:59*
Uh I think that's a big, really big emphasis here is is that them all rolling up.
*33:05*
But but Brian shows up
*33:11*
in his truck and walks in and asks Mia how the tuna is.
*33:14*
Apparently he's been coming every day for a bit, getting those tuna fish sandwiches with no crust.
*33:19*
Um
*33:26*
I mean what are you f to me I'm just seeing like wow they're all really young um
*33:27*
The dynamics are very interesting, especially knowing where some of these relationships go in the future.
*33:34*
So I'm looking at it through this lens of, you know, 20 years of history, but where are you at here?
*33:39*
Uh the thing that stood out to me the most in this scene is I wrote down the line, quote, what is this guy?
*33:48*
Sandwich crazy?
*33:54*
That's the thing that stands out to me the most in this scene.
*33:56*
Um, I don't know.
*34:00*
I think it's funny how they intro
*34:01*
Dom or how they intro Vin Diesel in this movie.
*34:04*
It's just he's this brooding character sitting in a back then the back room and you can only see the back of his head and they try to play him up as being this
*34:07*
intimidating larger than life figure that is kind of looming in this scene until he eventually makes his appearance towards the end.
*34:16*
He was in my face, man.
*34:23*
I'm in your face.
*34:25*
Yeah, they kind of lay a lot of the groundwork for I mean, obviously Brian and Mia end up being an item later in the movie, but they kind of gloss over their whole
*34:27*
uh like initial infatuation with each other and just kind of we pick up here and it's clear that they have a thing for each other already and so there's really not much to see develop between those characters.
*34:40*
We're just kind of
*34:50*
dropping in on them and seeing the rapport they've already built up with each other, which is horrible rapport if I'm being honest, is this dude just shows up every day and keeps invoking tuna sandwiches and No crust.
*34:52*
Uh no one likes the tuna.
*35:04*
And the they establish that he's been in this place like three weeks in a row and he's still coming in and all he has to say every day is, Hey, give me the tuna.
*35:06*
It's like bro, you've been coming in here e three every day for multiple weeks in a row and you don't have anything.
*35:13*
Bigger to say to this lady here other than the other.
*35:21*
But hindsight reveals why he goes there every day and
*35:27*
It's interesting.
*35:31*
That part is for sure.
*35:32*
But then, you know, him and Vince get into the fight and Dom kind of breaks it up.
*35:34*
You know, uh Letty's like, Dom, Dom.
*35:39*
They come out.
*35:43*
And all these cars roll up and it's they're all bright, decals on the side.
*35:44*
You really don't see cars like that today anywhere.
*35:50*
That's not really the style.
*35:53*
It's you're we're kind of thrust into the middle of a story, really, with the theft, these characters.
*35:55*
Yeah, we see there's very little
*36:03*
Done from the outset.
*36:06*
It just kind of establishes, oh, there's robberies happening, and then we meet this man outside of Dodger Stadium who's trying to race a car and get better at it.
*36:07*
Just cool that Dodger Stadium is in this.
*36:15*
Uh and then yeah, we're just kind of thrust right into the middle of this and we kinda piece together a lot of things for ourselves.
*36:18*
Because obviously what you're hinting at is Brian ends up being a cop, which is revealed later in the movie, but they reveal that at an interesting time because
*36:24*
Which is the first thing that's a good thing.
*36:32*
That's a third of the movie.
*36:36*
Yeah.
*36:38*
Which is kind but it's not like
*36:39*
Even when they reveal that, it's not like a huge revelation to the audience.
*36:41*
I mean it is, but it they don't play it off in such a way like dun dun dun, he's a cop.
*36:45*
Oh my gosh.
*36:51*
It's just kind of like, oh, yep, very matter of fact.
*36:52*
He I
*36:54*
Even though I guess he gets picked up at gunpoint by his partners, which is very bizarre.
*36:54*
Um it's anyway.
*37:01*
It's interesting that that's not really such a a shocker twist to the audience, and I think
*37:03*
Part of that is the rapport that he's built with these other characters.
*37:08*
And you can feel the relationship there.
*37:14*
There's more to him than just, I've gotta get the guy, you know?
*37:15*
I've gotta figure out who's stealing all this stuff.
*37:19*
And No, I think that's smart because it allows the audience to connect with him in such a way too where when later in the movie he's like, no, I'm being genuine, I really
*37:22*
care about you, Mia, and I wanna save Dom and blah blah blah blah blah.
*37:31*
Like you know that he feels those things and it's because you've kind of had time to sit and stew with him yourself and see how he's
*37:35*
interacting with these people.
*37:41*
And I think if they would have revealed that he's a cop earlier in the film, uh then yeah, you us as the viewers would have
*37:42*
Thought that he's just trying to play play everybody the whole time and he's just trying to get on get in their good graces because he's trying to uncover all of this and whatnot.
*37:49*
So you know later that night, Brian shows up to a street race in his green Mitsubishi.
*37:58*
Um this is after he goes into work at Racer's Edge and goes, I need Nas.
*38:05*
Nas!
*38:10*
Um this is where Grant Trismo shows up being played in a car.
*38:12*
That always reminded me of Pimp My Ride.
*38:17*
You remember that show on MTV?
*38:19*
Yeah.
*38:20*
I used to have a TV in my mom's minivan in the early 2000s.
*38:21*
See, look at you.
*38:24*
Pit my right over there.
*38:25*
Big big ball.
*38:26*
So the street race it's just a lot of people, we've got a vibe and uh
*38:28*
He's Brian wants to take the cash and the respect.
*38:35*
Offers up his car.
*38:38*
Pink slips.
*38:39*
The one thing I wanted to mention in the previous scene that we we'll get back to where we're at here with the street racing stuff.
*38:40*
Um
*38:45*
Paul Walker, I wrote down, is a handsome young man in this movie, and I was curious how old he was.
*38:46*
He was our age when he filmed and released this.
*38:52*
So he's 28.
*38:55*
Yeah.
*38:57*
Wow.
*38:59*
Good for him.
*39:00*
Yeah.
*39:01*
So I was like, dang.
*39:01*
Because I thought he looked younger in this.
*39:03*
I thought he was like maybe early twenties.
*39:05*
And I was like, uh, what was he?
*39:06*
Was he like 22, 23 in this movie?
*39:08*
And I looked it up, 28.
*39:09*
I'm like, dang.
*39:11*
I could be I could be doing better for myself now, couldn't I?
*39:12*
Uh so yeah, time to time to level up my own my own looks.
*39:16*
I think
*39:21*
There are some cinematic qualities of this drag racing scene that I would like to touch on, but I want to save that more for when we start touching on the cinematic uh parts of the movie later on.
*39:22*
Um, because I think that's the big
*39:32*
Stand out in this scene other than him saying, I almost had you and laughing, and that's a huge meme that I'm obviously aware of.
*39:34*
Inter a mile.
*39:43*
Yeah.
*39:44*
A lot of my notes here are about the practical effects.
*39:45*
Did you have anything else you want to say about the story stuff that happens in this whole section?
*39:47*
I mean obviously they end up running from the cops
*39:50*
And then they go back to Dom from the Roman.
*39:52*
They run from the cops and the one stops when Dom's walking on the street and chases him, which implies that Dom is a known criminal before
*39:54*
To us the audience, and that's before we know that he's been in prison and it was for b nearly beating a guy to death.
*40:02*
But then
*40:09*
Then we take this diversion after Brian saves him where Johnny Trans shows up and like pulls him off.
*40:10*
Yeah.
*40:16*
Shoots up the Mitsubishi.
*40:17*
So we're introduced to another rival kind of a gang or group.
*40:18*
I think that's kind of interesting.
*40:22*
It introduces another player who's possibly the thief here for Brian to find.
*40:24*
And so, um, you know, that kind of leads us then into the party.
*40:29*
At Dom's house.
*40:34*
Which is where the coolest part of this scene is that Vince is just playing a guitar, and this is the one thing I said I would know that you didn't, is that he's pl in this scene he's playing a Zack Wilde custom Gibson Les Paul
*40:35*
Zach Wilde is the guitarist for uh Ozzie Osborne's band and he's played and he's had his own band and stuff like that too, but he was like a really prominent
*40:48*
metal guitarist in the nineties and two thousands.
*40:56*
Uh and that's his like signature guitar and it's a really, really famous guitar that he is playing.
*40:59*
And yeah, that stood out to me that Vince just has this Zack Wilde Les Paul, which is a
*41:04*
Probably a couple thousand dollar electric guitar.
*41:10*
Okay.
*41:13*
Good girl.
*41:14*
Probably stole it.
*41:15*
Probably stole it from somewhere.
*41:17*
It's there's a lot going on in the scene.
*41:20*
Uh Vince's kind of bravado's coming out and the you gotta love this one, the busta.
*41:23*
The busta got me kept me out or whatever.
*41:29*
It's so good.
*41:32*
And he like the diss of the diss of the time was giving him his beer to drink.
*41:32*
Yeah, Vin tries to really win an Academy Award in this scene for a hot minute there.
*41:37*
I love the Buster line.
*41:42*
It's so it's so good.
*41:43*
This was also this scene specifically is also when I wrote down I love the vibe of this movie.
*41:45*
I am nostalgic for this.
*41:50*
Like just house parties and stuff like that.
*41:52*
Again
*41:54*
I don't I never did any of this back in the day when I was like, oh man, this seems cool.
*41:55*
People just chilling out and listening to music and a man's playing a guitar in a corner.
*41:59*
Nowadays it would just be people trying to
*42:05*
I don't know, everybody's silently looking at their phones in corners of the room or something like that.
*42:08*
And I'm guilty of this myself.
*42:13*
I don't know.
*42:15*
There's just different It's a different vibe.
*42:15*
Everybody's present.
*42:18*
And then yeah, it's just good.
*42:21*
We get more of this Mia Brian type relationship stuff growing, developing.
*42:24*
Um driving shows Mia is a is a capable driver.
*42:30*
Uh growing up with Dom.
*42:34*
That's later in the movie, I think, isn't it, where she drives?
*42:35*
I think that's after the party, they get out of the party.
*42:38*
Oh maybe it's af I thought it was after their date.
*42:42*
It might be.
*42:45*
Uh yeah.
*42:46*
Her driving is probably after the date.
*42:47*
But they do something.
*42:49*
The scene after this is where we find out Brian is a cop.
*42:51*
I wrote down uh the quote, you want time, find a magazine.
*42:54*
Yes.
*43:00*
Good quote.
*43:00*
Great quote.
*43:01*
I liked how truckers will take matters into their own hands.
*43:03*
Like trucker vigilantes are on the loose because of this, so
*43:06*
I wrote down iced cappuccinos look very good, but why decaf?
*43:10*
Uh it was to keep tensions low.
*43:16*
So keep the keep everyone a little calm.
*43:18*
Ice cappuccinos do look pretty good though.
*43:20*
I need Grant to make one of those
*43:22*
Look tasty.
*43:24*
They do look tasty.
*43:25*
This then kind of just leads us in.
*43:27*
Brian is getting deeper into the group.
*43:29*
He brings the the Supra, which will be the kind of one of the cars there at the end.
*43:31*
It's just leads into race wars, Brian staying under cover.
*43:36*
I mean I'm kind of trying to pick up a little bit here.
*43:40*
plot detail from here on because this is where a lot of the story stuff starts happening for sure.
*43:45*
The relationships develop.
*43:49*
Uh I wrote down uh
*43:51*
oil torture scene.
*43:53*
He gets tortured with oil, which is horrible looking.
*43:57*
Um I also don't know what they actually used in that scene, but it looked
*44:01*
very bad.
*44:07*
I mean even if it was like let's say it was chocolate syrup or whatever, it still looked horrible.
*44:08*
Yeah, there's a lot being pumped in for sure.
*44:12*
I wrote down dad's uh Dom's dad burned alive.
*44:16*
Yuck
*44:19*
Yeah, I don't know.
*44:22*
This is a where a lot of the character stuff starts happening.
*44:23*
Uh then they go on their date, and then there's the let's say grace and this man prays to the car gods.
*44:25*
Uh they go on a date Yeah, Jesse, which I have a lot of things to say about Jesse and his inevitable fate because I think that is the funniest part of the entire movie.
*44:32*
It's also the worst part of the whole movie.
*44:42*
I d yeah, there's not a lot there's not a lot else to say.
*44:44*
I mean blowing through some of this quickly.
*44:47*
Uh he goes on his date with Mia, who's using him to
*44:49*
Uh kind of get back at Vince.
*44:52*
Vince is like got the Vince is like a petulant child in this film.
*44:54*
That was my knee-jerk reaction to him.
*44:58*
Like
*45:00*
He goes and he tries to make some popcorn.
*45:00*
She goes on a date with he says says she'll go on a date with Brian and said he walks out of the of the room punching the walls and stuff like that.
*45:03*
Like
*45:10*
And I get that that's how he's supposed to be playing, but he's like a toddler in this, and it's very uh funny to me that he's supposed to come off as like this
*45:11*
I think when he first shows up in the wing, he's supposed to be like a little intimidating.
*45:20*
And then the longer you watch it, he's just like a pouting little kid all the time.
*45:24*
Ultimately what the the climax of the film with the the highway the truck chase than highway riding with him specifically
*45:33*
Um, I wrote when they go on their date, I just wrote, is Brian drinking coffee at a 10 p.
*45:41*
m.
*45:47*
dinner?
*45:47*
Because they go on the date and she says, let's go to cha cha cha.
*45:48*
How's 10 on Friday sound?
*45:52*
And then during that scene he's drinking a cup of something out of a mug that is steaming.
*45:53*
And I'm like, bro, this is the end of your meal.
*45:58*
It's probably like eleven, eleven thirty.
*46:00*
Are you drinking coffee right now?
*46:02*
You trying to stay up all hours of the night?
*46:03*
Which I guess we find out later he is trying to do, technically.
*46:05*
So, you know, maybe he's trying to power up there before he takes Mia back to his hot bachelor pad at the auto parts store.
*46:10*
Yeah, it's interesting that he's living there.
*46:18*
But I think kind of the two things we should touch on narratively at least is is the race wars bit, particularly with Jesse, and then the truck.
*46:21*
kind of leading into this highway robbery and and chase and stuff where Johnny Tran getting arrested falsely, I guess, is sort of like that.
*46:30*
And then everyone finds out Brian is an arc.
*46:37*
So
*46:40*
Race wars is just like street race legal street racing in the desert and it's
*46:41*
Jesse makes the poor decision of Pink Slips, his dad's car, against Johnny Tran, not fully knowing what Johnny is running under his car.
*46:49*
And
*46:59*
That results in him losing and and running away away from Johnny and that rival gain and stuff putting him in a dangerous situation.
*47:00*
Yeah.
*47:08*
Because it is so
*47:17*
Funny and it's so poorly written.
*47:19*
I'm sorry, I gotta call off this I I I think this I don't think this movie at any one point is like an excellent script or anything like that, but that part in particular is just
*47:22*
Actually screw, let's just talk about it now, because we're going we're talking about it anyway.
*47:31*
Jesse leaves and then they they got the whole uh
*47:34*
They they go off the next or that night to go do their robbery thing or whatever.
*47:39*
Let's just I I just need to focus here on Jesse.
*47:43*
So Jesse drag races.
*47:45*
loses is like oh man and then he drives off drives around for roughly 24 hours or so
*47:48*
And he d you don't see him again until he pulls up in front of Vin's house or Dominic's house, Dominic Toretto's house.
*47:57*
And the moment he pulls up, v uh Dom has a shotgun pointed at Brian, and Brian has a pistol pointed at Dom.
*48:05*
And he pulls up and jumps out of his car and he's like, Help!
*48:12*
I don't know what to do.
*48:15*
At a moment where he's trying to
*48:17*
He sees two people have guns pointing at each other, and he's like screaming about his own problems, and then all within the same span of fifteen seconds
*48:19*
Johnny Tran and his boys drive by with Uzies and Blow Mole.
*48:30*
So we got this whole crawls across the front lawn dodging bullets.
*48:35*
Yes, we just it's just a hilarious sequence of about 15 seconds where they're pointing guns at each other.
*48:41*
Jesse drives off his screaming about his own problems.
*48:49*
And then motorcyclists drive by and blow them all away.
*48:52*
And then he's dead.
*48:56*
Jesse is uh
*48:58*
I don't know.
*49:01*
I don't know why he's in this movie, if I'm being honest.
*49:02*
Because the uh the final again, this is jumping more towards I mean, this is the end of the movie at this point, but they really never
*49:05*
eulogize him in any way.
*49:12*
They're just like, oh, Jesse's dead.
*49:14*
We'll chase the other guys.
*49:16*
And then they jump a train jump in front of a train and then he says, I owe you a 10 second car.
*49:17*
Like there's this not
*49:24*
No one takes even half a second to be like, oh no, my boy Jesse is dead.
*49:25*
They kill the pe they kill his killers and then they go and have some fun and
*49:30*
Get a good soft car.
*49:37*
They don't actually kill them.
*49:39*
They immobilize them.
*49:41*
Because the one leaves one and says call nine one one like after that incident.
*49:43*
Um, I think it's it's an indication of Dom's character.
*49:48*
He's very he can be vengeful, and I think that's kind of coming out, especially from his dad, the story about his dad and the guy that
*49:51*
uh crashed into him and stuff.
*49:59*
So it's that energy.
*50:00*
And then Brian is on a mission to bring Dom in, not only for his job, but also because he does care for Dom.
*50:02*
And without fur you know, doesn't want Dom to have a murder charge and he cares about Mia and things like that.
*50:10*
So there's there are those it's funny, but there are
*50:15*
I guess I guess the point that I don't understand is why Jesse is in this or has to die in the first place.
*50:18*
Because we already established on its own
*50:24*
that Johnny Tran has a bone to pick with Dom because Dom beats the piss out of him at race wars, which in turn could have just
*50:26*
That alone could have ignited him to go wanna drive by shoot up the place or something.
*50:36*
I think what it is is family.
*50:40*
Jesse is clearly the key agreement.
*50:43*
I have to know this
*50:45*
Do they ever mention Jesse in any of the other movies like extensively without maybe like one line of dialogue?
*50:46*
I don't recall Jesse ever being mentioned again.
*50:52*
It's unfortunate.
*50:55*
But in this movie, in the context of this is the only movie
*50:56*
Jesse is clearly the kid of the group.
*51:00*
You know, he's the one that has to say grace.
*51:03*
He's, you know, he has that moment with Brian where he's like, I'm super smart, but I got that ADD.
*51:05*
Like clearly he's
*51:10*
The lights are on, but it's just he's a little bit off.
*51:12*
And so he's kind of being fostered in this group.
*51:14*
His dad is in jail.
*51:16*
He's alone.
*51:18*
It's he's kind of this tragic character within the group.
*51:19*
He helps out.
*51:22*
He's like the little brother or the kid.
*51:23*
And his death is meant there as like a a spark of vengeance and injustice.
*51:25*
Like how could you take him out?
*51:32*
Why would you take out Jesse?
*51:33*
Why wouldn't you
*51:34*
you know, take me instead kind of thing.
*51:35*
And I that's kinda his purpose and it's sh it's shallow.
*51:37*
It's just a cluttered mess because we're getting in the final five to ten minutes of the movie and there's just so much coming to a head at a single time and it's just all kind of
*51:42*
Nonsensical and crazy.
*51:50*
I even wrote down specifically the editing during the Jesse Death scene is really, really hilarious.
*51:52*
Please rewatch this.
*51:58*
The the slow-mo, the way they cut between things, like they cut between like wide shots and close-up shots.
*52:00*
It's really
*52:07*
jarring and is all over the place and there's different le I think there's even like different levels of slow-mo going on.
*52:08*
Like the slow motion.
*52:14*
Like the speed of it?
*52:16*
Yeah, yeah.
*52:17*
Like the slow-mo of the guys driving b driving by on the motorcycles and the slow-mo of Dom like
*52:17*
crawling across the lawn like does not match up really.
*52:23*
It just looks so strange.
*52:27*
Um it's a good time.
*52:29*
You should rewatch that one scene if you have not and you're listening to this.
*52:31*
Uh it's it's just very it's so chopped together.
*52:35*
It's all over the place and it's very funny to watch.
*52:39*
But the way it's chopped together is not so much so that I'm like, oh, this is bad.
*52:41*
It's like, wow, this is just
*52:45*
It's so messy that it's it's like I said, it's funny almost, which is probably not the reaction they wanted when killing off a character.
*52:47*
But you know Probably not
*52:56*
If we want to go touch on the race war stuff again for one second, I just wrote down this is the really the only thing I have to say about her character in this movie too is Michelle Michelle Rodriguez.
*52:58*
I know she becomes a way bigger character in the future movies.
*53:08*
And this one she's really just kind of presented as Dom's girlfriend and she takes his shirt off in front of a car at one point.
*53:10*
But I did write down
*53:17*
Michelle Rodriguez looks very cool in this movie.
*53:18*
The sunglasses she's wearing when she dri she's uh racing in race wars, she looks very cool.
*53:21*
She is those early two thousand sunglasses look look look cool.
*53:27*
Dom wears something like that in this movie too, I believe.
*53:31*
And he does when they street race a Ferrari.
*53:33*
It is um yeah, she is a cool character here and definitely throughout the whole film asserts kind of her toughness and ability to hold her own throughout the
*53:36*
the group.
*53:46*
You know, she's not while she is in this movie a pretty much just Dom's girlfriend, she is she clearly has respect within that whole group of people.
*53:47*
It's
*53:57*
But she does look very cool, especially racing.
*53:57*
We ha I think the really the only thing to talk about is the hijack scene plus the revelations of him being a cop to everybody.
*54:00*
I think the truck scene is largely cool.
*54:06*
Um the biggest
*54:10*
I mean it's intense.
*54:12*
There's a lot going on, I guess.
*54:13*
It's probably drastically smaller scale than some of the future films, I would imagine.
*54:15*
This is like very bottom of the list as far as stunts and action sequences go in this franchise.
*54:21*
The scope for sure.
*54:27*
It's just it just all boils down to saving Vince at the end of the day, which is kind of
*54:28*
an interesting spin to put on it because you're not really supposed to like Vince.
*54:33*
Well, you're not really supposed to like Vince and then coming into it you're thinking that it might end up coming down to
*54:38*
Well, you know that you know the truck drivers are now gonna defend themselves or whatever.
*54:45*
Uh but you also you know that Brian's trying to get over there and find them, and you don't know if he's gonna have to come to a head with
*54:50*
Dom or not, if he's gonna have to go toe-to-toe with Dom in this situation.
*54:57*
And he really doesn't.
*55:01*
He ends up kind of teaming up with all of them to save Vince in that situation.
*55:01*
It's a cool scene.
*55:05*
Um I think it's
*55:07*
A little long at times.
*55:10*
I don't know.
*55:11*
There's a lot there's a lot that's going.
*55:12*
Not a lot that's going.
*55:14*
There's a lot that's going on for sure, but I think there are some sequences where it just feels like
*55:15*
It's a little too elongated and we could've sped up some sections of it.
*55:19*
The truck, especially, just him hanging and getting into the truck and all this stuff.
*55:23*
It does feel long.
*55:29*
I get that it's the climax of the the movie.
*55:30*
And
*55:33*
2001, this probably a pretty big pretty big set piece for them.
*55:34*
I mean, again, even like you said, you know it gets crazier later on.
*55:39*
Like the scale of it is definitely the smallest, but this was pretty big at the time, I would think.
*55:44*
Yeah.
*55:49*
It's cool stuff.
*55:49*
It's uh do you want to talk about stunts in general now or do you want to save that for a little bit?
*55:50*
Yeah, we can probably talk about the stunts now because this is definitely the big this and then the I guess the
*55:56*
The drag race we we already talked about and then the train jumping scene towards the end would be the big stunts of the movie.
*56:01*
The stunts I
*56:08*
There's an affinity for practical effects, and I appreciate it.
*56:10*
And when it is CG, they use CG in a way that you know it is, and it's stylized and it gives them movie texture and flavor.
*56:13*
I love the practical effects of this movie.
*56:22*
Yes, I wrote that is 1000% the best part of this movie is that this movie has
*56:25*
Maybe this is getting into this touching on the cinematics and stuff like that too, but we may as well.
*56:31*
a stylized, like cinematic look to them.
*56:40*
Like there is CG used in this movie, yes.
*56:43*
Like uh at the drag race scene at the start of the movie I mentioned, like there's a lot of
*56:45*
Visual effect visual effects that are going on.
*56:50*
Yeah, it's it's but it's in such a way that I don't think it's
*56:55*
Uh I don't think it's not fully CG.
*56:59*
It's clear that they filmed some of those like because it it gives it like a look like they're going way faster than they are, but it's clear that they
*57:01*
probably film that and then just sped it up or something like that.
*57:08*
Like it's not like the environments themselves are not computer generated that you see outside of the car and stuff like that.
*57:12*
To m
*57:17*
Again, I'm totally making this up.
*57:18*
I don't know for sure.
*57:20*
But it looks totally real.
*57:21*
Like the all the effects in this movie look very practical.
*57:23*
Even the expl even when Johnny Tran blows up the car and it
*57:26*
Explodes like that's a real car they blew up.
*57:30*
Um like Vince hanging off the truck.
*57:33*
Now, granted he wasn't actually hanging by one arm, but
*57:36*
There's really a semi-truk there, and it's there's just a level of realness and texture that keeps it grounded and makes even a movie like this as corny as it can be sometimes have stakes and feel real.
*57:40*
It makes the movie um I wrote here, I wrote down the entire cinematic look and style of this movie is great.
*57:54*
In an age where all big blockbusters feel like they're shot the same way or largely homogenized.
*58:02*
This movie stands out a lot.
*58:07*
Like it really does feel like maybe twenty years ago this wouldn't have felt that special, but I guess with it then
*58:09*
our current age it feels way more unique, which is bizarre in a sense.
*58:17*
Like again, I feel like fifteen, twenty years ago you maybe wouldn't have thought too much about this.
*58:23*
But now there's just so much CGI present with so many movies.
*58:28*
I mean Star Wars and that and that does become a factor later on in the movies.
*58:33*
It's undeniable that these movies lean more into that stuff.
*58:38*
But they're
*58:41*
Practical effects are still a part of the series, uh, because cars are still characters to some degree.
*58:43*
Yeah.
*58:49*
And it's fun to see that commitment
*58:49*
At this level.
*58:53*
Yes, I agree.
*58:55*
Like that when they are even with the truck scene at the end, like
*58:56*
Or the car is a very good thing.
*59:01*
When they run a car into a semi
*59:05*
They're running a car into a semi there like and that's just a brief thing that happens, but they're they're actually doing that to cars and things like that, which again it just doesn't
*59:09*
Doesn't seem like that happens very much.
*59:18*
Uh and again, I have not seen all of these movies, and you you've said that practical effects are a big part of it, so I'm sure they still do a lot of practical things.
*59:20*
uh and the other ones.
*59:27*
But I I don't know.
*59:27*
My brain has been so wired to when I think of current major blockbusters, I think of, you know, Marvel and Star Wars and I those are like
*59:28*
completely devoid of practical effects nowadays, it seems like.
*59:36*
Like Star Wars especially has gotten to the point where I feel like it's not as practical as it used to be and it just feels
*59:39*
Uh yeah, I don't know.
*59:47*
I don't like the thing that uh Favreau and then made.
*59:48*
What is that thing called?
*59:52*
The big circular thing they shoot in.
*59:53*
Oh, the void or something?
*59:56*
Yeah, it's just it feels so
*59:58*
Distant.
*01:00:01*
Like it's a really cool piece of technology that they have made, but it leads to everything feeling so Yeah, everything feels so saney.
*01:00:02*
Mm-hmm.
*01:00:10*
There's even other moments in this movie, like the street the the big street race at the beginning, where they have all the cars lined up on the street.
*01:00:11*
Those are all essentially real cars.
*01:00:22*
It could have been repeated kind of in the background, but when they all cops and then they run away like
*01:00:25*
It's real stunt drivers driving around and stuff.
*01:00:32*
And you'll see that in other movies too as well.
*01:00:34*
And th I ch there is
*01:00:37*
I appreciate it.
*01:00:42*
It feels really good to see that and see it all stay at some parts of the movies, but also go away later on in parts.
*01:00:44*
There are parts like, man, I wish that was a real instead of in a computer.
*01:00:53*
And I think that it holds and it's part of what makes the older movies retain quality.
*01:00:57*
It's not like It's what makes this still a watchable movie in 2022.
*01:01:05*
It's not like ah you can skip the first three movies or whatever.
*01:01:10*
Just what just get skip to four or whatever.
*01:01:13*
No, I think this movie is still valuable.
*01:01:15*
Yeah, from a visual standpoint, I think that this movie really does hold up quite a bit.
*01:01:17*
The one thing that I do have to call out about the hijacking scene, and I don't know if you noticed this, but this was very apparent to me on my Blu-ray version of this I was watching
*01:01:21*
When he starts to go try to when Brian realizes where they're at and he starts going to try to save them, it is night.
*01:01:31*
And he's with Mia.
*01:01:40*
And then he finds out where they're at.
*01:01:42*
And he's like, they're about 40 miles away.
*01:01:43*
Come on, we gotta go.
*01:01:45*
And then when they jump to the next scene, it's clear that they're shooting it in midday.
*01:01:46*
However.
*01:01:51*
The movie itself puts on some sort of filter.
*01:01:52*
For the first couple minutes of the truck of the semi-hijacking scene, it puts on a filter to make it look like it's like
*01:01:55*
the early hours of the morning where the sun's just coming up.
*01:02:02*
And they f and they plaster a very like some sort of darkening filter acr uh across the
*01:02:05*
across those scenes.
*01:02:12*
So it looks like it's earlier in the morning than it really is, but it was clearly all shot in midday.
*01:02:13*
And around a couple minutes into the scene they just dropped the filter altogether.
*01:02:18*
They're like, yeah, screw it.
*01:02:22*
It's just the middle of the day now
*01:02:23*
or whatever, the sun is fully out at this point.
*01:02:25*
But the whole scene was clearly shot in midday and they just they're like, oh make it
*01:02:28*
To connect these scenes, we'll make it look like it's in the early morning and the sun's coming up and we'll put this filter on it.
*01:02:33*
But you can tell it looks so bad.
*01:02:38*
Uh that's the one
*01:02:40*
bad part of the movie I think as far as like a visual look 'cause it's so apparent.
*01:02:43*
But hey, I guess they
*01:02:48*
Did what they could with it.
*01:02:50*
Um Yeah.
*01:02:51*
I obviously that becomes less of a problem later on as the movies get bigger budgets and and technology gets better and stuff.
*01:02:52*
It's
*01:02:59*
Yeah, I think the stunts here are really good.
*01:03:01*
I I'm quite impressed.
*01:03:03*
Uh it all it's all really cool.
*01:03:05*
They even have like a real helicopter come in and pick Vince up.
*01:03:08*
They do, yeah.
*01:03:11*
I I am touching on that.
*01:03:13*
That's when the whole moment happens where he reveals that he's a cop.
*01:03:14*
Do you have anything
*01:03:17*
I don't really have much to say about that because even the way it's played in the movie, it's just kind of very I don't know.
*01:03:19*
Vin has his moment where he's m I think I do think Vin Diesel says a lot with his reaction in his face.
*01:03:24*
He's holding back the rage and that comes out
*01:03:29*
in the driveway later with the Jesse thing.
*01:03:33*
Yes.
*01:03:36*
It's but then it's under the Jesse thing.
*01:03:36*
Yeah.
*01:03:39*
I actually think he does really well there though with his face and his reaction to the realization that
*01:03:39*
Someone he had now considered a new and close ally and friend is a cop, which is c represents the one thing Dom will never wants to go back to
*01:03:45*
I think that's the one thing that pisses me off.
*01:03:55*
Not pisses me off, not actually mad about it, but that's the one downside of the whole Jesse stuff that I talked about beforehand is we don't really get to see
*01:03:58*
an actual dialogue play out between uh Dom and Brian for long before Jesse rolls up and he's like help help and then he dies and then the and then the everything
*01:04:06*
changes on a dime and eventually we have closure between the two of them, but we don't really get to see I guess like I guess on paper it makes more sense to that like
*01:04:18*
Like if I was constructing a movie script and I was like, okay, we have to find a way for them to come back together.
*01:04:29*
What's a way that could unify them?
*01:04:33*
Oh, they rallied together to avenge their fallen friend or whatever.
*01:04:35*
I think that makes sense, but it's just the
*01:04:38*
Way in which it happens in the movie is so quick and it feels so clunky and then the movie's just over.
*01:04:41*
It's like okay, huh
*01:04:46*
Like I think I think if they would have revealed thing that he was a cop a little bit before, like maybe like thirty minutes before the movie ends, like it's really like the last ten, fifteen minutes that this all comes about.
*01:04:48*
I don't um I don't know if I entirely
*01:04:59*
Maybe agree is not the right thing.
*01:05:03*
I think they do more later.
*01:05:05*
It's more of an action speak louder than words thing where they they do chase Johnny Tran and his um his cousin.
*01:05:08*
I'm blanking on his name.
*01:05:14*
But then Brian does chase Dom down.
*01:05:16*
It's not I think at that point the facade is after Jesse, the I'm going to arrest you is dropped.
*01:05:18*
And it's more just
*01:05:26*
I need to help Adam.
*01:05:28*
He is in a bad spot right now, not just criminally, but he's on kind of this rampage.
*01:05:29*
And it they have that moment
*01:05:33*
At the the red light from here to the tracks is a quarter of a mile.
*01:05:36*
I used to race it, blah blah blah.
*01:05:40*
But he's like, I'm never going back
*01:05:42*
And I think there's this mutual respect between the two, which ties into that first street race is, you know, take the money and take the respect.
*01:05:44*
And after the train, which they both miss, and Dom flipping in the dump truck.
*01:05:52*
I think Brian kind of says it all when he hands him the keys, and I've tried to hold keys like that.
*01:05:58*
I've tried to replicate that, the way he kind of holds them.
*01:06:03*
If you look at it, yeah.
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Can't do it like Paul.
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But it gives him an e he lets him escape, which tanks his career.
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Uh cr uh you'll see the implication of that in Too Fast, Too Furious.
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But it it hurts his career and
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Earns Dom's respect.
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But earns the respect and kind of the spot in the family.
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Yeah.
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And that
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I think is the the family nugget continuing to hold strong, which is the foundation for the series.
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But did they know it was the foundation of the series when they made this movie?
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No, because you'll see.
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You'll see.
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I don't want to say anything.
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Couple questions or just things I want to throw out quickly.
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One
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Why are Brian's windshield wipers on during the train jump scene?
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If you watch that scene, his windshield wipers are moving on.
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Are they really?
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Yeah.
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So they're jumping in, it's the slow motion shot of them both jumping in the train behind him and his windshield wipers are off.
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Okay.
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I did not stop this movie after the credits rolled, and I was like, oh, this is like 2001.
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Post-credit scenes will not be a thing.
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There is a post-credit scene in this movie which is kind of fascinating.
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Ahead of its time in a lot of ways.
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Is that a thing through all of them?
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Do I need to skip ahead to the end of all of them?
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All of them?
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There's definitely one in
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Tokyo Drift, there's definitely one in I think there's one in Two Fast Two Furious.
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There's definitely one in six or seven.
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It's a few of them.
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Um I could probably look it up and come up with a hit list of which ones have it.
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But yeah, definitely definitely stick around.
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Uh I wrote down the quote in the scene where the one guy, what's the Hispanic guy's name who's kind of at the drag racing scene early in the movie?
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Is it Hector?
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Is it Hector?
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Okay, he comes into the store and he's like, hey, I need three of each of these parts.
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How quickly can I get them?
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And Brian says, Well, we can overnight parts from Japan.
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I wrote down, wow, world building.
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Um uh yeah, Tokyo Drip probably was not in the cards at that point, but yes, JPN definitely it's kind of a part of street racing and stuff too.
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They drive a lot of Toyotas and things like that.
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Um
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And those are the that's about all I wrote down.
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I think I I I guess the one thing I would like to bring up to you before we kind of touch on a couple other things in uh with this is
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Is it vital that Dom and the rest of the family members be thieves?
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And I assume so because I know they
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I know they I know they robbed some things in the later movies.
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I know there's something like uh they're dragging a vault down the street or something like that in one of those movies.
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I have seen that.
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Um
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I think it's really interesting though that they chose to make a street racing movie here, but also a heist movie, um, in some senses, like
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Mm-hmm.
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Because I feel like I feel like if I was making this movie, they could have just made it to where street racing is illegal and they want to knock knock off the street racing stuff.
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And they could have sent
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Brian after this these street racing gangs or whatever to kind of get an inside with them and so that they can get to the root of this problem, which is plaguing LA, which is all these different street races.
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I I guess it's weird to me that they're having him invade the street racing inner circle for the purposes of them being thieves, rather than it dealing back with the fact that the street races themselves are illegal.
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I don't know if that makes any sense what I'm saying.
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Uh I get kind of what you're doing.
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I mean it makes sense that they they're they're committing other crimes too in this crime in their history with crime is essential.
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For m most of the movies.
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It's it is a part of their characters and identity going forward.
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Or is that almost super?
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It plays it is definitely a part of their characters in future films.
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Their ability to steal and do stunts of like dangerous heist things is
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uh is essential throughout the movies.
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It uh at the time, again, they were definitely not thinking that like, ah, we have Master Car Thieves.
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It's it's built upon uh in later in later films, for sure.
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So it is important.
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Okay.
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They're planting the seed.
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That's all I really had written down about the story and the effects and that stuff.
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Did you want to say anything about that before we maybe touch on a couple other ancillary elements of the
*01:10:50*
No, I like there were just some tidbits of like there's a floppy disk that loads up a 3D image of a Toyota Super.
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I like that a lot.
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Um, you know, the barbecue the barbecue and grace thing that's established in the first movie here.
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I also kind of noticed that everyone is ready to commit crime.
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Like everyone is ready to
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I've got a shotgun, like let's break in.
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We're gonna go.
*01:11:19*
Uh they've got shotguns out of nowhere in this, which is pretty pretty funny a couple times.
*01:11:25*
Uh 'cause it's very it's very much out of nowhere that they show up and they have these things like when Vince shows up and he's got one, he's like, what are you doing?
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And Vince tells Brian he has to choose his words carefully or whatever.
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The music and the sound design is the next thing we've got written down here that we want to touch on.
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I don't know how much you want to say about this.
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It's very early 2000s hip-hop
*01:11:47*
Well I wrote down specifically here.
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Uh I wrote down this movie has a bomb ass soundtrack.
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Like it has a lot of those things that I associate with
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uh like car culture games and stuff like that whether it be a lot of the games we mentioned earlier like um like Grand Turisma Grand Charisma's more jazzy I guess but
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Uh Midnight Club, Need for Speed, that kind of stuff.
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This kind of early 2000s electronic hip-hop music.
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I I I still associate uh I still associate that music with this whole scene.
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And so I like the movie in that regard, and I miss that style of music.
*01:12:28*
I've actually been listening to a lot of early 2000s music lately, so this has kind of hit at the right time for me with
*01:12:31*
Uh the soundtrack at least.
*01:12:37*
Yeah, it's got that same energy to it.
*01:12:39*
And you'll it continues.
*01:12:42*
I've seen the trailers.
*01:12:45*
Yeah.
*01:12:47*
I've seen the trailers.
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I know music is a big part of this franchise for sure.
*01:12:49*
Um Legacy, I guess is the final thing that we should touch on here.
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Or well there's two things.
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We can talk actually let's do this before we touched on the legacy.
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Uh one thing we one refraining thing that we want to do throughout this whole season, if you listen to our Banjo Kazooie season, uh we ranked the levels in each of the games that we played, and we're not gonna be doing that.
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But we are going to be listing what we think is the best car from each of these movies.
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So Max
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Best car.
*01:13:23*
My personal favorite are the Hondas at the start because they're low, fast, black, they're cool.
*01:13:25*
But that's not very exciting.
*01:13:31*
That's not an exciting car.
*01:13:33*
I am partial, definitely partial, to the orange.
*01:13:35*
Orange Mitsubishi eclipse that Paul Walker brings to the garage and they revive and is the car he gives at the end.
*01:13:40*
I'm very partial to that car.
*01:13:46*
I think it's uh it's sweet.
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Uh yeah, I like the Ferrari a lot that shows up in this, which I know is not probably a I'll I'll give an actual streetcar answer too.
*01:13:51*
I do I like the green
*01:13:59*
the with the green one that he's driving in the game, the one that gets blown up by Johnny Tran.
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I think that one looks really cool.
*01:14:05*
Yeah.
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Uh it looks cool when it gets blown up even.
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Uh I don't know what
*01:14:10*
make and model that is exactly.
*01:14:12*
That's also an eclipse, I believe.
*01:14:14*
Um I think you might be right actually.
*01:14:17*
He okay the orange car is a supra, so I apologize, car people.
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It's a Toyota Supra.
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And then the green car is a Mitsubishi eclipse.
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1995 Mitsubishi.
*01:14:28*
Gotcha, gotcha.
*01:14:30*
Yeah, I like the green one a lot.
*01:14:31*
Green car for me is my choice, although I do really like the Ferrari that that man is driving and the scene where they decide to race that fella as well, and then they go eat shrimp.
*01:14:33*
Yeah
*01:14:44*
Get me in on the action.
*01:14:45*
I can't I don't take handouts.
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Legacy?
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I mean I think this movie's legacy is twofold.
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Obviously, one it started this sprawling
*01:14:54*
multimedia franchise, which we already kind of talked about at the top.
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And uh yeah, I mean that's this is the first movie in a mega billion dollar franchise.
*01:15:00*
So there's that.
*01:15:07*
Uh beyond that, I think it really does serve as a sort of cultural touchstone for like when I have kids and you have kids and they're gonna be like, Dad, what was it like when you were growing up?
*01:15:09*
I'm gonna be like, well uh well watch this movie
*01:15:20*
Like kind of like how our parents uh point to like probably eighties movies or something like oh I'm so nostalgic for the Breakfast Club or Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
*01:15:22*
Like those movies are emblematic of like the eighties and stuff like that.
*01:15:31*
If I was to point to a movie that I feel like would be very emblematic of early 2000s, it would be this.
*01:15:35*
It's got the music.
*01:15:41*
the vibe, the way people even talk in the movie we mention.
*01:15:43*
All those things is very this just screams early 2000s.
*01:15:48*
The only thing missing really would have been like a
*01:15:54*
like a Lincoln Park needle drop at some point in this movie.
*01:15:57*
It would have been just the cherry on top or like I don't even know if the hybrid theory was out at this point, but for me
*01:16:00*
I I think you've nailed uh on the head it it spawns a multi-billion dollar film franchise.
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It's the start of it all.
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It's it
*01:16:15*
And it captures a a time in life that really movies haven't captured, including The Fast and the Furious, haven't really captured that in in quite some time.
*01:16:16*
So
*01:16:25*
It's also personally I it it it has the name The Fast and the Furious, which is then riffed on throughout Too Fast, Too Furious, Fast and Furious.
*01:16:28*
All this stuff.
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I think that's a part of it.
*01:16:40*
But I think like I said at the top, it's the seed for everything.
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It's the cornerstone.
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Family, cars, corona.
*01:16:49*
Those you know, you can joke about that, but it's it's the start year.
*01:16:51*
It's this core group.
*01:16:55*
And the characters I was gonna say, the characters are I mean, the characters are just as iconic.
*01:16:56*
Yeah, that I love and that I definitely believe you're going to fall in love with over the course of these next nine films that you and I get to watch together.
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It is
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It's special.
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It's also nice to just see them when they started out at in this particular franchise.
*01:17:16*
There's a there's a quality to that that I'm really loving this time around with the film.
*01:17:23*
It's got yeah, I mean even again as somebody who's coming in saying this is probably the worst mega movie franchise ever
*01:17:29*
Uh I like this movie.
*01:17:36*
Will I watch this all the time?
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I don't know, probably not.
*01:17:40*
Uh but it's a good movie.
*01:17:42*
I don't I don't mind it.
*01:17:43*
I've I again I have seen it twice now within the
*01:17:44*
span of less than a year and I really thought I was gonna hate watching this last night again because like I had just seen it not super long ago and no it was I had a good time.
*01:17:47*
Yeah it's fun stuff.
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So
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Well, I think that wraps it up, everybody, for this first episode of season four of Chapter Select.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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Especially if you're in your car and you're driving, you're listening.
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You know, that's fits feels really th on on brand for this particular season.
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The next episode is Too Fast, Too Furious.
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We're going a little bit, we're going in chronological order uh and narratively.
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So Too Fast, Too Furious fits as the next piece of the puzzle.
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So very excited.
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First one for me, and it holds an incredibly soft spot, so I'm excited to share this one in particular with Logan and explore Miami.
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As we travel around the world in all our cars.
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So thank you so much.
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And until next time, adios.
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Bye-bye.
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