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Enjoy. --- That's not my TV? *00:00* Is it? *00:01* Or is that your TV that's the one I'm playing on? *00:02* I mean you can see my I'm saying was that your TV at your house? *00:05* Or no, mine's in storage. *00:10* Okay, so that's your dad's TV. *00:12* Everything of mine is in storage. *00:14* The only things that aren't in storage is my desk here and my computer, my clothes. *00:16* And basically my PlayStation and Xbox. *00:21* Everything else is in storage right now. *00:23* And my Switch. *00:26* I have my Switch on me too. *00:27* And my DS, obviously. *00:28* Like i g assorted gaming things I have on me. *00:30* Like otherwise. *00:33* Otherwise everything else is pretty much in storage. *00:35* All my comics, all my games, all my vinyls, all my shoes. *00:38* Your Spider-Man shoes. *00:42* Are your Spider-Man shoes in storage? *00:47* Those are with me. *00:49* Okay, good. *00:50* I was gonna say don't leave those in storage. *00:51* Did you ever watch that show Storage Wars? *00:54* I've seen everything. *00:57* Not regular. *00:59* Do you remember any of the people on that show? *01:00* No. *01:02* There was always the guy who would scream like yup when he would bet on the water. *01:02* Was he dating was he dating Kim Wexler? *01:07* No. *01:10* He was just a guy who'd go to these storage units, and anytime he wanted to make it known that he was bidding on a unit, he would just scream, yup! *01:11* And that's all he would do. *01:20* Anyway, we were joking the other day that if I default on paying my unit that that guy's gonna come by and be like, yup, and then he'll open the unit and be like, I found some Spider-Man shoes. *01:22* And I'm like, no, these must come with me *01:32* This man must not buy my shoes. *01:36* Shoes at a boot discount. *01:39* Your storage unit would be a big win if *01:41* Probably. *01:46* It depends on depends on how obvious you were with your packing though. *01:47* Like if they can see all the expensive stuff or if it's like more of a this looks like some *01:50* You know, some dudes. *01:56* I mean I labeled all my boxes so you could see like, oh vinyl, oh games. *01:57* Okay, but they wouldn't yeah, it wouldn't be it's not like it's see-through totes. *02:03* No, I have one or two of those and some of my comics are sitting in like milk crates, but that's about it. *02:08* What a find. *02:16* What a find you're saying. *02:17* I have two I have I have yeah, I just have all my furniture in there. *02:18* I have two couches. *02:22* I f I got I bought a new couch the other day. *02:24* You bought a new couch? *02:26* From where? *02:28* My parents called me. *02:29* I guess there's this like place down the street. *02:30* Uh-huh. *02:33* And it *02:34* Is like some sort of like charity like furniture place. *02:35* It's a place where people like take furniture that they don't need and we did that with our old couch. *02:40* Yeah, and the people that sell it if the if the money they make off of it I guess goes to charity or something like that. *02:45* So anyway, my parents are like, Oh, we're gonna go look there *02:51* And they f they called me and they're like, hey, there's like a really nice couch here, and it's $95, and it has a pull-out sofa in it, and like the pullout sofa still has the plastic on it, and no one's ever *02:53* Used it before? *03:05* And I was like Okay. *03:06* But No No, but that means it's heavy *03:09* It is heavy. *03:13* That's the that that's the only to me. *03:14* It is, but once we move it into my place I'm not gonna touch it again until I gotta move. *03:18* True. *03:23* Can you move in a month? *03:24* I don't know if I have your next five dates in my calendar. *03:26* It's not official yet, but probably mid October. *03:29* Right when I have a child. *03:34* Good timing. *03:35* Yeah, your Notre Dame game is this weekend. *03:37* You guys go up on Thursday or Friday? *03:39* All uh uh Saturday. *03:41* The game is Saturday or you go up on Saturday night? *03:44* It's the game Saturday night, yeah. *03:46* We're just gonna make it a single *03:48* day trip. *03:49* Oh, then I can remove Notre Dame Friday from my calendar. *03:49* Look at me. *03:53* Yeah. *03:54* I thought we were gonna do Friday, but no. *03:54* We're just gonna make it a one-day trip and the game doesn't start till like seven thirty. *03:57* Look at me freeing up my calendar. *04:01* It doesn't feel like you're podcasting at home. *04:04* I need uh *04:08* A green screen behind you and like a Star Wars ship in the corner. *04:10* I threw that away the other day, the green screen. *04:14* You threw it away? *04:17* It's so funny. *04:18* I was just like, it was it's just so cumbersome and it just sits in my closet and I never use it. *04:19* And I was like, I don't want this anymore. *04:24* Like if I need it, here's here's my thought process. *04:27* If I end up needing a new one, I could expense it to work probably. *04:29* Uh-huh. *04:34* And I was like, it's so ironic because I'm talking to Abby about buying a green screen. *04:34* My setup was really bad. *04:41* It was like an all-in-one thing. *04:42* None of it was really that good to like. *04:44* I've been looking at the Elgato one that pops up and slides back in. *04:47* Obviously this nursery stuff behind me. *04:54* I don't mind it. *04:56* It's more privacy for the child, because we have like a sign with her name that will be up there and stuff and *04:57* If I could just pop up a green screen. *05:04* Which everyone will find out in October. *05:10* Yeah, yeah. *05:13* It's in a box over there. *05:13* Okay. *05:15* Um so I kind of thought maybe one of those pop-up green screens would be good if for, you know, when we do model citizens or if I do anything with video. *05:16* Keeps the nursery crib behind you. *05:27* Yeah. *05:30* Yeah, just like baby stuff and creepy people. *05:31* But don't you want to show off that you're a dad? *05:33* Uh I could do that with my God of War. *05:36* I could do that with my God of War mug that says Midgard's best dad. *05:38* Could do that. *05:42* Have you used that mug yet? *05:43* No, I'm not a dad yet, so I was gonna say good. *05:44* It will be I will use it *05:48* I definitely on So Gotta Wars out on a Wednesday, right? *05:50* And Is it? *05:54* It is. *05:55* It's a Wednesday. *05:56* It's on Odin's Day. *05:56* Wednesday is Odin's Day. *05:58* Oh yeah, that's right. *05:59* Right. *06:00* So I've got a copy pre-ordered at Best Buy. *06:01* Now I'm I got it on Amazon for like twenty eight bucks because of that gift card. *06:04* Um so I don't know if I'll sell the other one and to like make money off of it or if I'll just return it or whatever, but it *06:09* Before the whole Amazon thing happened, I was talking to Abby. *06:18* I was like, it'll be great. *06:21* I'll come home from work that day and we can go we can all go to Best Buy and it'll be babies first. *06:22* Like launch day pickup special edition pickup, she can the box will be bigger than her. *06:28* And then I'll come home. *06:37* I'm still debating taking that Thursday off because I we have Friday off because Friday that Friday is Veterans Day. *06:38* Oh yeah. *06:46* So I could take the Thursday off and a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday *06:47* But what day would you how fast do you think you'll beat it? *06:54* You'll think you'll do what I did a couple years ago and by Saturday morning. *06:56* I don't know if that's feasible for me, simply because I don't know what the routine will be once *07:01* Your wife will be off work, shall she? *07:06* She can take you with it. *07:09* Yeah, the whole time. *07:10* So we'll see what that's like. *07:11* Um *07:14* I mean, I would like it's just a very pure window of time that I really am not gonna have again. *07:16* At least the Friday through Sunday. *07:23* You know, cause that I get the Friday off no matter what. *07:25* But to have that window of time feels actually really *07:28* Really good, you know, so I won't be able to play Wednesday because uh I'd have to get it after work. *07:34* It's gonna take forever to install. *07:40* Thursday, I could just work from home, half day it, and play. *07:42* And then Friday I won't have to worry about it. *07:50* So I don't know. *07:52* We'll see, but I'm very *07:54* Very exciting. *07:57* That game is very close. *07:58* That's the next game. *08:00* After The Last of Us on Friday, I won't be buying anything until God of War. *08:01* And after God of War I won't be buying anything for a while. *08:06* I still need to figure out if I'm gonna get Last of Us this week. *08:10* Probably should not, but we'll see. *08:13* Mm, I didn't think you were, so I mean if you whenever we both play it, we might do an episode on it, I don't know, but *08:16* Yeah. *08:25* I do have sort of like a naughty dog itch though. *08:27* I brought Lost Legacy with me. *08:30* The problem is if I play Lost Legacy I w *08:33* I do, but I want to play the PS4 version so I can get the plat and then remember. *08:36* This is my this is my disease. *08:41* The Lost Legacy doesn't have a plat on that version. *08:44* It doesn't, but you do need the trophies to get the plat. *08:47* But the other thing you gotta remember is is any trophies you get through the chapter select or the encounter select don't count. *08:50* So you gotta r So what that means for Lost Legacy *08:59* Oh, this sucks. *09:04* Is the APC the APC truck you're gonna have to do in the campaign *09:06* You're gonna have to have a save for that trophy. *09:12* Yeah, I I You're gonna have to make a save and just reload that because that oh that's gonna be disgusting. *09:15* You could transfer the save from PS4 though. *09:26* I was looking at my trophies the other day for that and I was like, oh yeah, I forgot this is a thing. *09:31* Somebody just emailed me out of the blue. *09:36* I'll just read this and then we'll go. *09:38* Then subject line just says. *09:41* Steam and Valve are terrible companies. *09:44* The body says Valve products fail routinely. *09:47* Nobody knows how to fix their cheap products and Steam loves to ignore you when you have a failed Valve product inquiry. *09:50* Steam have been is being investigated for operating in a monopoly. *09:57* Parentheses guilty and they hate customers *10:01* Is this your work email? *10:07* Yes. *10:09* That's awesome. *10:09* I wrote a story about Valve today. *10:10* I would imagine that's the first time I've ever received an email out of a blue like that. *10:12* Look at you. *10:16* I think you're a journalist now. *10:18* I wrote a story about Steam and it currently has five hundred and fifty active readers. *10:21* Oh I'm sorry. *10:28* Currently has seven hundred active readers. *10:29* So yeah, anytime people message me random things like that, I'm like, oh, something a story must be doing well. *10:32* a large enough people are reading it 'cause then you get the strays the stray random stray people who are doing it. *10:44* Oh man, I'm gonna be wired tonight. *10:54* I will say outside of Nolly Dog, I am legitimately only playing currently. *10:58* Call of Duty Black Ops 2. *11:03* I just saw that. *11:07* I was like, a shooter campaign sounds fun. *11:08* Six hours, blast through it. *11:11* Shoot the dudes in the face. *11:14* Let's go. *11:15* What I find hilarious is you're you're playing Call of Duty Black Ops too. *11:16* You have an itch to play like *11:20* Last of Us or Uncharted and you're back at your parents' house. *11:22* You Red Dead's like, what is this 2012, 11 all over again? *11:26* Exactly. *11:33* Uh exactly. *11:34* Yeah. *11:37* It's good stuff, man. *11:38* It's good, good stuff. *11:39* I hope I get Modern Warfare for Christmas. *11:42* I would love to play that *11:44* All I care about if is is no Russian in there. *11:46* That's all I care about. *11:50* Why would no Russian be in it? *11:51* It's a totally different story. *11:53* That's Modern Warfare 2. *11:55* It's a not the same game. *11:57* Yeah, but the first game was essentially the same game. *12:00* No, it was not. *12:02* Yeah, it was *12:04* It was a totally different story. *12:06* It just had price in it. *12:07* And then at the end he's like, oh, there's a man named Soap who exists. *12:08* And that was it. *12:13* Warfare 2. *12:19* The Russians aren't the bad guys. *12:19* Come on, all the Ghillie mission or whatever was in the Modern Warfare 1. *12:21* I think. *12:25* No, there wasn't. *12:26* There was a ghillie thing. *12:27* There's a Ghillie suit mission in 2. *12:29* That's gonna be in 2. *12:31* See that they've said is like a successor to all gillied up. *12:33* All I'm saying is it better be in there. *12:37* There's a miss like the fourth mission of Call of Duty Black Ops 2, you're on a horse and you're riding a horse through a desert and there's helicopters flying overhead and they're like *12:39* Shoot down the helicopters! *12:48* And then you pull out a rocket launcher, so you're riding the horse and you're shooting a rocket launcher at helicopters. *12:49* And I was like, Yeah, this game's good actually *12:55* Maybe we should do a Call of Duty season. *12:58* I thought it was a good idea. *12:59* Call of Duty campaigns are fun. *13:00* Like I don't play they're all across the board they're almost always just dumb, stupid, like action movie Michael Bay tier like fun *13:02* Maybe that's season seven. *13:10* Maybe that's what we just chip away at. *13:12* Gets me to sign up for Dame. *13:14* I'm already looking to chip away at them though. *13:16* Like I'm playing Black Ops 2 now. *13:18* Are you in a c total Call of Duty kick? *13:21* If you're in a Call of Duty kicking. *13:23* I mean I didn't bring all I didn't bring all of my games, but I did bring Call of Duty Black Ops 2 and 3 and Vanguard with me. *13:24* 'Cause I bought Vanguard recently. *13:32* Well, maybe we should do Call of Duty eventually. *13:35* It'd be fun. *13:37* Now we can go. *13:39* Oh, now we can go. *13:40* I was gonna say, let's focus on the actual podcast because I'm gonna keep *13:41* talking about other things. *13:44* I'm feeling the coffee hitting me for the first time in a while. *13:45* Okay. *13:48* And I'm over here like I'm dying. *13:49* All right. *13:51* Hello everybody and welcome to Chapter Select, a seasonal podcast where we bounce back and forth between a series exploring its evolution, design, and legacy. *14:03* For season four, we are covering the fast and the furious. *14:11* I am one of your hosts, Max Roberts. *14:14* And joining me as always is Logan Moore. *14:16* Hi Logan. *14:18* The family has come together at last. *14:20* Finally, you understand family. *14:23* This is the first time. *14:26* It is the Avenger of Fast Films. *14:31* It is. *14:33* It absolutely is. *14:33* You have finally seen *14:34* My favorite Fast and Furious movie. *14:37* I'm so happy. *14:39* I think this is a lot of people's favorite fast movie. *14:40* And it technically this movie came out before the Avengers, so technically the Avengers is the fast five of the MCU, if we're being very technical about it. *14:43* Exact. *14:52* What did it what? *14:53* When was Avengers? *14:54* Two thousand twelve, so it was the year after. *14:55* Oh *14:58* I literally just Googled this in real time. *15:00* Oh me too. *15:02* Look at that. *15:03* Would you look at that? *15:04* Fast five trailblazing the cinematic universes of modern day Hollywood. *15:05* It set a standard of some sort, which is why this movie series is still around. *15:11* Some kids say that this was Dwayne The Rock Johnson's first superhero movie. *15:17* I mean, I feel like that's selling the Scorpion King short though. *15:22* And we don't want to sell the Scorpion King short on this podcast. *15:27* Maybe we'll watch the *15:30* Uh he's a scorpion king. *15:32* He does turn into a large CGI scorpion man. *15:35* So that's like borderline superhero stuff. *15:38* I don't think you've seen Nope yet, but you know. *15:41* Scorpion King plays a prominent role in Nope. *15:45* So maybe you should get it. *15:47* Scorpion King plays a prominent role in Nope? *15:48* Like the film? *15:51* Yes. *15:52* Like they just invoke it and bring that movie up? *15:52* Absolutely. *15:55* Critical, critical part of the film. *15:56* And I'll have to watch that at some point. *15:59* At this point, here's the problem quick aside. *16:01* This is the problem I have with movie releases nowadays, is that I feel like they come to digital so quickly after they've hit theaters. *16:04* Like it used to be like *16:11* A movie would release in theaters and then there's like a good forty-five days. *16:13* It used to be forty five days. *16:17* I'm talking like when we were y when we were kids. *16:18* It was like six to eight months and then it would be like uh after six or eight months or something, it then it would be on D V D or VHS or something. *16:20* Sure. *16:27* Now it's like they hit theaters and then it's boom. *16:28* It's on digital pretty soon after. *16:31* And I get caught in this weird middle ground nowadays where it's like two or three three three weeks after a movie hits theaters, if I have not seen it by that point, I'm almost just like, uh *16:33* I'll I'll just wait for it to hit digital at now at this point. *16:42* Because like Nope has been out for what? *16:45* Five weeks probably? *16:47* Yeah. *16:48* July. *16:49* So what's waiting another what's waiting another *16:49* three to four before I can probably just watch the video. *16:53* Oh, it's on digital now. *16:56* Nope is already on digital. *16:57* Then I could just watch it. *16:58* You could. *17:00* Now, I will say the most recent and rare exception to this modern trend is Top Gun Maverick, which just *17:01* Came to digital and won't be out on Blu-ray to like the the Hollow. *17:08* Yeah. *17:13* Paramount milking it. *17:14* Good job, boys and girls. *17:15* But you know what movie I did see in theaters, there was no waiting for digital D V D was Fast Five. *17:17* I have not seen this movie. *17:24* in theaters. *17:25* I've not seen any of these movies in theaters. *17:26* That's known. *17:28* Your first one will be Fast Ten or Fast X. *17:28* It will be Fast X, or maybe I shouldn't go see that in theaters. *17:32* Maybe I should keep that out of the thing. *17:35* If there's even a possibility of us seeing it together in theaters, I think that's what *17:36* what's gotta happen. *17:40* We should. *17:41* Yeah, I'll see Fast X in theaters and then Fast, whatever the eleventh one is called. *17:42* I keep forgetting and this is a t again a total other topic, but I I forgot that they're adding *17:46* Uh Jason Momoa and uh Captain Marvel lady to that one too. *17:52* What's her name? *17:57* Uh Bree Larson to that. *17:58* Again, it's just getting more and more insanity. *18:01* I've not even seen the other the others after Fast V here, and it's already getting ridiculous. *18:04* Alright, let's talk about Fast Five though, because that's what this episode of the podcast is about, even though it hasn't seemed like that, uh, until now. *18:09* Uh, this movie released *18:16* On April 29th, 2011. *18:18* It was directed once again by Justin Lynn. *18:20* Producers this time around were Neil H. *18:22* Moritz, Vin Diesel, and Michael Fotrel. *18:25* Uh these are the same producers that have been here since Fast and Furious. *18:29* Uh writer of the film was Chris Morgan. *18:34* Primary actors. *18:38* Again, the whole family is here. *18:39* So we've got Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Jordana Brewster, Tyrese Gibson returns from Too Fast. *18:41* So does Ludacris, uh, Chris Ludicris Bridges. *18:46* Galgado returns from Fast and Furious, Sung King from Tokyo Drift, and then Fast and Furious sort of. *18:50* I haven't seen Tokyo Drift yet, but he's in that. *18:56* He returns and then introduced is Dwayne the Rock Johnson. *18:59* Uh composer this time was uh Brian Tyler. *19:03* Um stunt coordinator was Mike Gunther and Troy Robinson, and then the budget. *19:07* This *19:14* Is why the series is still around. *19:15* This movie's budget was $125 million, and it grossed $500 million more than that. *19:17* Uh it made $626 million at the box office. *19:23* This is double what Fast and Furious bought uh made at the box office. *19:27* That's a one movie jump. *19:32* I re uh I I've so I mean we're gonna get I mean let's finish the rundown here. *19:35* So Rotten Tomatoes on this one is by far the highest reviewed film in the series. *19:39* It's got a 78% with critics, it's got an 83% with audiences *19:43* So this is far and away the highest reviewed one that we have seen so far in this podcast season that we are doing. *19:47* I remember, I think I've I don't know if I brought this up on the podcast yet. *19:54* But I do distinctly remember when this movie came out in high school and like my friends started seeing it and they're like, This is awesome! *19:58* Fast and Furious movies are great. *20:05* This is one of the coolest action movies I've seen in forever. *20:06* And I thought it was so weird *20:09* because for the longest time I just thought of this series as like B level, crappy, like stereotypical Hollywood films with crummy Vin Diesel in it. *20:12* Like I I didn't think anything of these movies. *20:23* other than just they were like low grade crummy movies that somehow make back the money that they're being put into it so they just keep making more. *20:26* And this was the first one I realized outside of *20:35* I talked about how when I was in grade school I remember the first ones coming out and pe in people in grade school being entranced. *20:37* Yeah, and people being entranced by that, but that was grade school. *20:43* You're always influenced by dumb things when you're a kid. *20:46* This like *20:50* I mean I was we were what fifteen, sixteen when this came out. *20:51* And so like by that point you have kind of seventeen. *20:55* Uh we would have turned we would have turned seven. *20:59* Yeah, we were about to turn seventeen. *21:03* So we're a little older, so we've got our taster. *21:04* refined a little bit more. *21:07* So when I heard people actually saying like these movies are awesome. *21:09* Fast five is great. *21:12* I was like, really? *21:13* Like didn't that last one? *21:15* Cause I remember when Fast and Furious came out as well and it was like *21:17* It was trash and I remember that was supposed to be the big reboot and I've always watched these movies from afar and I just remember the *21:20* perception around Fast and Furious being, oh yeah, this is junk still. *21:28* I don't know why they made another one of these. *21:31* So when this movie came out, I was really wonder shocked that it was being made. *21:34* And then two, even more shocked to hear everybody like lavish so much praise upon it afterward, because I truly thought that like it was only a matter of time before these movies were just kaput and *21:39* Total opposite happened. *21:53* Now we've got seven more of these to watch or whatever. *21:54* The series is completely transformed from this point. *21:58* Now *22:03* Fast and Furious is what started what would become obviously the movies we know and love today. *22:03* But Fast Five was a *22:10* Revelation. *22:13* Just mind blowing awesome action. *22:15* As someone who had watched the all of the movies up to that point, you know, I was I was down. *22:18* I whatever *22:23* Whatever they were going to show me, I would have been at least gone to the theater to see. *22:26* Going back and actually watching the trailer, uh, maybe I shouldn't be surprised because some of the trailers for the more recent movies show *22:30* everything, it feels like. *22:39* But they show a lot in this original trailer for this movie, including the the vault dragging through the street is alluded to, the train, the jump. *22:41* Like all the major stunts are shown off in the trailer. *22:51* Which was I feel like that's still I feel like that's still the case to a degree. *22:53* But I can see now how I w was even more excited at the time to be like *22:58* Yeah, I'm gonna see this movie is incredible because it's they're doing stuff that the fast series had never really done before. *23:05* Sure, the stunts in Fast and Furious. *23:12* kinda honestly peaked with the opening with the the truck and the gas robbery and stuff. *23:15* But this was a whole other level. *23:20* And to finally see *23:23* you know, Tyrese and Ludacris from Too Fast, Too Furious get to interact with everybody. *23:25* As someone who was a Too Fast, Too Furious fan from the get-go. *23:32* I was over the moon at the time to see this. *23:36* But this was *23:38* This was my time. *23:40* You and I talked about this before, but one of the things that I think is so great about this movie is that for someone like yourself who had seen all the movies up until this point, it feels like *23:41* The payoff of everybody coming together is excellent. *23:51* Like you know all the characters in this movie, and they're finally all coming together and converging, and the family is finally one as it is. *23:54* But also *24:02* even if you'd not seen any of the previous movies, it doesn't feel like you're really missing anything and you can kinda get quickly caught up to speed in a lot of aspects. *24:03* I think some of the more interpersonal dynamics between certain characters would maybe be lost on you *24:12* uh especially between uh Tyrese and Ludacris' characters. *24:17* Um what are their names? *24:22* I can't remember if this Roman and Tej. *24:23* Roman and and Tej, yes, thank you *24:26* Yeah, I feel like their dynamic specifically is something that really only works it it works to a better effect if you've seen too fast, I believe. *24:28* But like some of the other interpersonal dynamics in the film, like *24:36* Uh like with Han and uh what is Galgado's character name? *24:40* Giselle. *24:45* I just call them all their actor names. *24:46* With with Han and Giselle, like they they have chemistry in this movie sort of, I mean they're like paired off and have some scenes together, but they've never interacted with one another. *24:48* So like that's a completely new thing that you know don't need to really have any backstory for with the previous films. *24:57* I don't know, it it it walks a fine line where you don't have to have seen any of the previous four that have come. *25:03* about, but it definitely is that much better if you have. *25:10* Like I I feel like my enjoyment of this movie was amplified because we have watched these all chronologically. *25:13* Especially I and I gotta say, specifically *25:19* Too fast is the one that I feel like it has like the payoffs in this movie. *25:22* As strange as that is. *25:26* Like it's cool to see I fast the previous movie, Fast and Furious. *25:28* Has good payoffs if you've seen the original movie because it's Vin and Paul Walker coming back together, Dominic Toreto and Brian. *25:33* I do remember their names. *25:40* Uh, them coming back together is kind of the big core element of that movie, but this movie really feels like if you have seen Too Fast, then it is the payoff. *25:41* Yes. *25:52* The Too Fast, Too Furious fans have their day in the sun with this movie specifically. *25:52* And I like that. *25:57* So the one character I don't think I think it's tougher to get as much satisfaction or that that pay out payoff for is Vince. *25:59* Because Vince is just alluded to in this film as someone from the past who b uh you know, uh Paul um for Brian, geez, for Brian to have conflict with. *26:08* That that whole resolution doesn't really come out unless you've seen *26:19* Fast and Furio the Fast and the Furious. *26:22* So that's interesting. *26:25* But I'm curious for Han *26:26* You obviously haven't seen Tokyo Drift yet, at least you remember it. *26:31* And so really your only exposure to Han at this point is the beginning of Fast and Furious, which is very little. *26:36* And you know culturally that Han is very important to the fast franchise on the internet. *26:42* They keep mentioning Japan. *26:48* They've mentioned Japan in Fast and Furious, and then they've mentioned Japan again at the end of this movie. *26:49* Like, oh I'll get there one day *26:54* It's a bigger you you're talking about all this. *26:56* This payoff and stuff. *26:59* It is a much larger payoff if you had seen Tokyo drift *27:00* Now we're watching these in chronological order and so. *27:04* But you've told me there will be better payoffs with Tokyo Drift if I watch them this way. *27:07* So it's almost Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. *27:12* It's it you're you're experiencing different payoffs in different ways. *27:14* So, you know, at the time of this recording, this episode, our next episode will be Fast and Furious 6, but then Logan will finally see Tokyo drift. *27:19* in our um sixth episode. *27:27* So it's gonna be fun going forward, but yeah, your experience with Han is a little bit different than someone who has seen the previous four movies. *27:30* I think the the the one thing I wanna kinda hone in on with this movie um in praise as well is that it feels *27:41* well paced with the action sequences. *27:52* Like we talked about how with Fast and Furious it really felt like they kind of *27:54* went crazy up front in the opening ten minutes of the movie and then from that point it was just a slow slowly getting worse and worse over the course of the film and there was still some other cool parts to it but it just felt like they really reached their peak there in the opening couple minutes. *28:00* This movie saves the best for last with the action sequence, which is good, but the action sequences that take place before that and spread throughout the movie are also just as great. *28:14* The opening *28:25* sequence uh y I mean even the brief scene where they go to rescue Dom. *28:26* I mean that's a great payoff from Fast and Furious. *28:30* It picks up right there where uh Fast and Furious left off, which is really cool to see and you can almost watch the movies back to back. *28:32* And they flow together perfectly, which is really cool. *28:40* Um, but that's such a brief scene. *28:43* I I I'm referring more to obviously the train heist scene where they're launching off a bridge and *28:45* Uh they're d committing driving on a train into the side of a train. *28:50* They're stealing cars off of a train. *28:55* It's a great *28:57* Opening to action step piece. *28:59* A f drive off of a bridge, like all of like that might be the most memorable part of the movie. *29:00* And it *29:06* And that's not even involving them dragging a safe around a city. *29:06* Like Exactly. *29:10* Like the set pieces also amplify in a good way. *29:10* They they they build off each other. *29:13* You don't peak at the start and then decline. *29:15* It's *29:18* Here, how do we one up it? *29:19* Oh, how do we one up it? *29:21* And then you get to the end of the day. *29:22* It's kind of something I've always liked fat I've always uh *29:23* enjoyed about like Uncharted games. *29:26* Like those games alwa have very good action sequences like at the front of the games, but they steadily get crazier and crazier as a lot of those games go on. *29:28* Um and it's sort of a similar thing here with *29:37* Fast five. *29:40* But even in between the action scenes, though, I think it is the quieter moments of the film that stand out just as much because you do finally have all the characters together. *29:41* So there's really not *29:50* Even the scenes where it is just characters talking one on one and there's not a whole lot going on, there's like a level of excitement within those scenes because it's *29:52* It's Dom interacting with Roman, which has never happened before. *30:03* And you're like, oh, I'm excited to see how this dynamic plays out between these two. *30:06* Because like *30:11* You've got all these big personalities finally together in the same room and you don't know how they're all going to kind of intermingle. *30:11* And they all have their moments throughout the film where they do interact with one another. *30:18* in certain spots and you just uh you you don't know how their personalities are gonna clash or what they're gonna do uh in those scenes. *30:22* And I I I felt that that was almost just as fun and just as exciting, even though it didn't involve any cars flying off of bridges. *30:28* Or anything like that. *30:36* So it's you know, for so many different movies and personalities and different kind of collections of people, these you know, there's been the core the core form and then you know, Letty's not in this movie. *30:37* Except for the very, very, very end. *30:50* Sort of. *30:52* Yeah. *30:52* And then but you know, and then you Roman and Tej and and Han, and then you're bringing Giselle in from Fast and Furious who really hadn't interacted with anyone outside of Dom. *30:53* It's a group that meshes well together despite all of that. *31:03* It's written in a way where these different personalities do all come together. *31:08* And jive with one one another. *31:12* And it it makes it a believable dynamic. *31:14* It's not it doesn't feel ham fisted. *31:16* And well the thing the thing I like about it too is that *31:19* There's like credibility built up between Dom and Brian to the point that they're like, Well, I know this person uh like they trust one another enough that the person the people that they're bringing into this situation, they're like, Well, I don't know who this Roman Pierce guy is, but if you're willing to *31:23* vouch for him and say that he should be here, then sure. *31:38* So like it's that it's almost like they trust e they trust each other to a point where they're bringing all these people together and they a a lot of them don't know who *31:40* The others are like again, Brian doesn't know who Giselle is. *31:48* Vin doesn't know who Brian knows who GZ is. *31:51* He does know who Giselle is, so I'm sorry. *31:54* Uh who does he not know though? *31:56* I guess Brian kind of knows Brian knows everybody. *31:58* He's been in all the movies. *32:00* Brian's been in every movie. *32:01* Brian doesn't know. *32:03* Does Brian know I mean I get in this? *32:04* He doesn't know Han. *32:06* Does he does he I don't know if he knows Han because I've not seen *32:08* So he doesn't know Han. *32:11* Uh there's all but yeah, there's all certain people that the others are are vouching for and are willing to bring into this situation and it makes for *32:12* A dynamic, yeah, where it's a first meeting. *32:21* It's a first meeting for a lot of these characters but but it's not for you as the viewer. *32:23* And that's the *32:27* fun aspect of it is that we know these characters and we know how they are. *32:29* And if it is your first time seeing these characters as the viewer, it still pays off and works. *32:33* And that scene where they're building the team where Dom is narrating off like who they need, you know, and we get cuts showing the characters coming to Brazil to be together. *32:38* It worked. *32:49* That's all you need to know. *32:50* That is the surface level pitch of here's the fast talker, here's *32:52* You know, the circuit man, here's the weapon specialist, all this stuff all coming together, chameleon blends in. *32:57* And it works. *33:05* That's all you need to know. *33:05* It's one of the great things about *33:06* a well-done heist movie is here's the team, here are the personalities you need. *33:09* Now how do they pull the job off? *33:15* It's it's what all the great heist movies do. *33:17* I think a lot of oceans *33:19* 11 in particular because it's a big ensemble cast coming together to do one thing and each person has their own specialty. *33:21* It's the same thing here, and they all come together to do this one heist. *33:27* Let's uh let's talk about outside of the family the other characters in this movie because there's an even more extensive cast. *33:34* We haven't talked about the rock yet. *33:41* We'll get into *33:42* Let's talk about the rock in a second. *33:43* I I want to touch on the villain for a moment. *33:45* His name is Reyes. *33:47* Reyes. *33:49* Uh again, got another kind of *33:50* Nondescriptive villain at the center of this. *33:53* You so you pitch this to me as one of the better villains that we will have seen up until this point. *33:55* And I *34:00* I don't think he's bad. *34:01* Here's how I would explain it. *34:04* Up until this point, we've had Too Fast, the villain was too enter gold of the plot, and he was bad. *34:05* Like he was so involved, like *34:10* To the point that like it was almost a turnoff because he was a poor villain and I didn't want him to have that much screen time. *34:13* Fast and Furious's problem is that there was a mystery villain, a man behind the curtain the whole time, to a degree, and then you find out that's not really the case, but *34:20* That movie was shrouded in mystery and that you don't really care about who the villain is. *34:28* I will credit Fast Five and saying that they show you up front who the bad guy is, they make it clear. *34:33* And they really just use that as a means for the family to then go off and commit this heist. *34:39* Like that's *34:46* Ur Reyes himself, it uh there's really no distinct qualities that I can think back on that he has that I care about. *34:48* I don't *34:55* care about him as a villain. *34:56* He's just kind of there to set the plot in motion for the family members to come together and then do this mission. *34:57* And that's about it. *35:04* And honestly *35:05* I'm fine with that. *35:07* A year from now or six months from now, I'm not gonna remember anything about Reyes specifically or care about him. *35:08* But I don't won't have negative feelings attached towards him in the same way that I would with like too fast bad guy, if that makes any sense. *35:16* Like he's not so *35:24* involved that I'm like, oh I hate this guy. *35:26* Get him out of here. *35:28* But he's he just he's just a kind of a plot device, it seems like, which is so fine in a lot of ways. *35:30* It works. *35:36* But then we've got but then we've got Hobbes as well, who's uh also a pseudo antagonist, which we will mention here in a second *35:37* So Reyes, when I told you that about Reyes, that was before I we had watched it for this season. *35:44* And sitting there watching it, I went, Oh. *35:51* He is a lot like the villain from Two Fast Two Furious. *35:54* Like he has a scene where he we learn how evil he is, where he picks up the thing off his desk and like clubs the the guy to death. *35:57* Yeah. *36:04* Uh I'm like, oh, maybe he isn't a very good villain. *36:05* And the thing is, is he's just he's just evil enough to be forgettable. *36:08* And we learn a lot about his villainy through the descriptions of other people, specifically, um *36:13* I want to say Nia. *36:21* The woman the woman that works with uh Hobbs? *36:23* Yes. *36:25* Um I'm going to get her name. *36:26* Brazilian local woman. *36:28* Who's on the police force and becomes Dom's girlfriend at the end of the movie, strangely? *36:30* What nah, yes, she does. *36:35* But uh I will find her name in a moment. *36:38* But yeah, we learn like, you know *36:40* he's uh he's involved in all illegal activity. *36:43* There's the scene with him with the businessmen where he talks about why Portuguese is the s language spoken here *36:46* in Brazil and you know, he goes to the favelas and gives him water and electricity, blah blah blah blah blah. *36:52* Her name's Elena. *36:57* Elena. *36:59* Thank you. *36:59* Uncharted. *37:00* Nicalina uncharted. *37:01* Got it. *37:02* So he's just evil enough. *37:03* So he's definitely I would not say *37:05* as good as I've I had previously pitched him. *37:09* And I've realized that coming into this. *37:11* Cause you know, you see these in the past I've just seen these movies not so close to each other. *37:13* um or at this level of age, maturity, and just s w however you would want to look at it, uh analysis of cinema, if you would call this that. *37:19* So in your older years you now have a bit wiser. *37:30* But he does work *37:36* And you're right, he is just the right level of an excuse to get everyone together to commit this crime and clear their names. *37:37* But the real star of the show, as you've mentioned and alluded to. *37:45* Is Luke Hobbs. *37:49* Yes. *37:50* Yeah, The Rock is great in this. *37:51* This is the first. *37:53* This I mean I here's the thing with The Rock. *37:55* And uh there's a couple actors where I feel like it always feels like *37:57* Uh the person playing the character is almost playing themselves in some ways. *38:02* I would even say this is the same way about Vin Diesel in a lot of regards. *38:09* Like when I see Vin Diesel in a lot of movies, I'm just like, oh, that that's Vin Diesel, and he's like I don't see Vin his Dominic Toreto. *38:12* I don't see him as *38:19* Riddick. *38:21* I just see him as oh, this is Vin Diesel. *38:21* Uh and I think the same can be said for The Rock, even though he's been in so many different movies and portrayed so many different characters at this point. *38:24* He very much just is the rock *38:31* starring in whatever this movie is. *38:35* I do think this is his one role though that I have seen to date where it feels like he is *38:37* embodying a character to a larger degree in this film than I have seen in a lot of his other performances. *38:43* He really brings some flair to this and some fun that I think he's had a lot of his other movies. *38:50* But there's a different level of I don't know. *38:58* I mentioned to you that it feels like he's almost using a certain intonation and almost like an accent with his voice. *39:02* in this movie. *39:08* Uh it's subtle, but it's there. *39:09* And it feels like he's trying to make this character a bit more fleshed out rather than just, I'm gonna be the rock and I'm gonna *39:12* act like my normal self in whatever this movie is, Hercules or Rampage or the skyscraper earthquake film. *39:20* Whatever that San Andreas. *39:28* I'm thinking of all these old terrible rock films now. *39:30* Luke Hobbs does feel like one of the more *39:33* uh realized characters, I guess, that the rock has played, which is funny because in a lot of ways he doesn't have that much character depth, at least not not in this movie *39:37* Uh, he is he is the right he is an archetype for this this, you know *39:50* Government agent that chases down criminals, cowboy kind of style. *39:59* I mean, Brian says it, you know, he's old testament, you know, blood bullets. *40:03* Yeah, and they do a good job with the other characters in the movie hyping him up too, to like build him into who he is. *40:07* Not only do you get to see who he is based on his own actions and words, but you get to hear other characters like *40:13* Like, oh man, we don't want to mess with this guy. *40:18* Like, it they do a good job of building him up into this big persona and this force that is chasing after them, which is funny because one of the ways in which they shut him down. *40:19* later in the movie is they're just like, Oh well try to arrest us which is something I said when I was watching the movie. *40:31* I was like, does he have jurisdiction to go do this? *40:36* And uh they just kind of openly challenge him to that and he uh backs down pretty quickly, which is *40:39* I that that neuters him a little bit, I think. *40:46* That makes him uh kind of him a little less powerful, but uh but yeah. *40:49* It is *40:54* They do so well with his introduction, like getting off of the plane, his whole introduction speech of, you know, never ever let them get into cars. *40:55* And all this stuff. *41:04* He he is a force to be reckoned with, both Dwayne Johnson, the actor, more so like, you know, as he has come into his massive, incredibly successful career here in 2022. *41:05* This is a part of that. *41:17* It's one of his more pivotal roles. *41:18* The other thing that we can realize here with hindsight is he is the only character, I mean, alonside. *41:21* Shaw, who have you not met yet, who gets a spin-off movie in The Fast and Furious. *41:27* The Hobbs is a fantastic character. *41:33* and is introduced wonderfully in this movie. *41:38* Um he's he really is the main and you know, he's not the bad guy. *41:41* But he is the anti antagonistic force kind of eyes of our heroes. *41:48* He's the foil in a lot of ways. *41:54* He has a lot of the same qualities as Vin Diesel in in particular *41:56* But he's on the opposite side of the law and he's chasing after them. *42:02* And they did that because well *42:07* They didn't do that because anyway, not to speak for them. *42:10* It works really well because Brian is officially out of the law side. *42:14* He is a full-blown criminal now. *42:17* having busted Dom out of jail, they're on the run. *42:19* So the two of them are on the same side of the law together for the first time. *42:22* And they needed a cop figure to replace Brian in that role. *42:26* And Hobbs comes in and is a much better foil, like you said, to Dom than Brian was. *42:32* Brian and Dom always had the brother energy. *42:38* Now it's Dom and Hobbs. *42:41* Because Dom or Brian always envied Dom, and he was in he was invading these street race gangs in order to *42:43* like bec in invade them and uh like get intel on them, but he also wanted to become one of them deep down. *42:53* Like *43:00* Hobbes is not like that. *43:01* Hobbs is very much trying to shut this all down and make sure none of this happens in the first place. *43:03* Um I do have to say, in addition to Hobbes, it makes him *43:09* feel might like that much of a larger force that he just has this like nondescript Call of Duty squad at his back the whole movie too. *43:14* Which is hilarious. *43:24* I don't remember any of those guys' names, but he just *43:25* Shouts at him and barks orders the whole movie and really the only one that it gets fleshed out otherwise is Elena who comes along. *43:28* Uh I wasn't not a little bit later. *43:35* She's there from the start, essentially. *43:37* But she's really the only other person that gets fleshed out in this movie. *43:39* Otherwise, it's just a bunch of dudes carrying machine guns that he's yelling to tear apart a car or blow people away with an LMG. *43:42* It's it's just over the top ridiculous that he has these people with him. *43:50* Uh and I like that he just rolls up into Brazil with uh yeah, basically Task Force 141 at his back and ready to *43:56* blow people away in the pursuit of hunting down Dom and Brian and the rest of 'em. *44:04* So Exactly. *44:08* Um, I do have a question for you about another specific character in this film. *44:10* Uh and that character would be Mia because her whole central storyline of *44:17* having a child getting pregnant in this movie because Brian apparently can't help himself. *44:26* Um *44:33* How did you feel about that arc in this movie? *44:34* Um, because it really does end up confining her after the opening scene to really being *44:39* the girl in the chair. *44:44* She just kinda can't do anything the rest of the movie, which is fine. *44:45* I know she'll have spots in other future movies, I'm sure. *44:48* But it does seem like she doesn't get to do that much in this movie. *44:51* And I also it already felt like she didn't get to do that much in Fast and Furious. *44:54* And she's never been *44:57* like a huge central character when it comes to, you know, pulling off heists or I mean, j she we've seen glimpses in the past movies that she knows her way around a car and ha has *44:59* She's got that Toretto blood in her, so clearly she she can drive and she can do a lot of the same things as Dom, but she's never been at the center of any of that, dating back to the original Fast and Furious movie. *45:11* But how do you feel about her whole arc and somewhat being sidelined in the movie? *45:22* I think the the positive note that comes out of it is it solidifies hers and Brian's *45:26* romance relationship. *45:33* They've obviously in The Fast and the Furious, that was crucial to that plot. *45:35* They were just into each other and then and Fast and Furious, they rekindle that. *45:40* This solidifies it is *45:44* You know, the emphasis of family is actually really brought to the heart of it where we are adding members to the family, biologically speaking. *45:47* Um *45:57* There's always room for family. *45:58* There's always room for family. *46:00* So that solidifies it and it keeps Dom *46:02* you know, and them together instead of splintering off, which was kind of her plot point there was that is one thing I do like. *46:06* I do li uh strangely, like *46:13* Her her being pregnant in this movie strengthens not only her relationship with Brian, but I feel like with Dom. *46:16* I feel like him and Dom have a better romance. *46:21* After she reveals that she's pregnant more so than Brian and her becoming closer throughout the course of this film. *46:24* It's very much like *46:30* Dom is like, oh, you're you're you're having a kid with my daughter now or with not my daughter, with my sister, so now we're extreme bros. *46:32* And it strengthens their relationship that much more. *46:40* uh than I feel like it does between Brian and Mia, which is funny. *46:43* But it's a it's an interesting dynamic to see Brian and Dom become even that much closer on a level uh than even *46:48* in the previous movies. *46:58* And I feel like it it's a good way Fast and Furious was really about them learning to trust each other again and then c them coming back together. *46:59* But like you said, in the same way that her becoming pregnant solidifies her relationship with Brian, it really solidifies *47:06* that him and Dom are gonna be like bros for life at this point now. *47:12* Yeah, like which sucks because I know that he's only got two movies left now. *47:16* So that's a bummer. *47:22* Looking ahead. *47:24* I'm *47:25* Yeah, it that really sucks uh going forward, obviously, from his tragic. *47:26* But I will say I will say this, I mean, and we'll talk about *47:32* Paul Walker's death and him being written out more in the future, I guess. *47:34* But I will say it does make me that much more happy that retroactively that *47:37* Like that Too Fast was his movie in some ways. *47:44* And that it fell through for Vin. *47:47* It like and Vin wasn't able to be part of the sequel, so Paul Walker had to step in, and that was really just his movie totally. *47:50* And up until this point, he has been the central character in the fast franchise. *47:56* More so than Dom has been. *48:02* Which again makes it that much suckier that he's going away in the next couple one of couple movies that we're about to watch, but he had he's had his *48:06* good moments in this series so far. *48:15* He's by far I mean if I was to say who my favorite character is, a temp, I feel like all of Paul Walker's lines in this movie and all the other movies, he always delivers them with *48:16* I don't know, like this like sense of like unaware arrogance. *48:25* I don't even know how to describe it. *48:32* Like he sounds very confident in what he's saying, but also very c confused at the same time. *48:34* If that makes any sort of sense. *48:40* He has a California chillness to him that comes through in a but a confidence with that as well. *48:42* So *48:49* He's always been a favorite of mine and I'm excited to see you experience his last two movies here in the series. *48:50* But Mia being pregnant and kind of sidelined as you said to the woman in the chair *48:58* It's more than she got to do in the previous two movies. *49:04* True. *49:08* Where she was barely in Fast and Furious, and she played a more central role in the first one. *49:08* She just kind of shows up at one point in the random like safe house they're in and *49:12* Yeah, I mean yeah, again, she has not gotten to do that much. *49:16* So she's building up, but it's I find it more fascinating even with such a minimal role. *49:20* She still feels essential to the core cast. *49:28* Like, I think you tell me *49:33* How did it feel not having Letty in this movie? *49:36* Again, I know you know Letty is actually alive before you saw this, but like she is the missing piece to this whole family puzzle. *49:40* Sort of. *49:48* I would say Letty up until this point has not felt that integral. *49:49* Like I'm thinking of She's been in and about it just as much as *49:54* Mia was in the I would say Mia's been in it even more because Letty's only big scenes are what she shows up, she's in the house party scene. *49:58* Involved in these other sequences where she's just kind of there. *50:09* Like, you know, the big house party, um the the dance wars. *50:12* Making out in the garage. *50:17* What are her actual scenes that she has been involved in where she's one of the primary characters? *50:19* Yeah. *50:22* Making out in the garage. *50:23* Uh *50:25* Making up the water. *50:26* The race wars where she beats a guy in the in race wars and takes his money or takes his car, one or the other. *50:27* Los Bandaleros. *50:33* Yeah, and then the opening uh *50:34* Heist of Fast and Furious and then her talk with Dom after that. *50:37* That's about it. *50:41* Like Mia has had more one-off scenes with Brian than Letty has. *50:42* So I really don't feel like Letty's been missing at all. *50:47* Uh in fact, she's the character I would say I care the least about out of any of them so far. *50:51* And that's largely just because I feel like she's not been given much time. *50:56* to do anything of her own. *51:01* She has very much so far just come across as Dom's girlfriend rather than a wholly independent character of her own *51:03* And Mia has not come across like that from the start. *51:11* Mia has always come across as her own sort of character who has a thing for Brian, but she has her own *51:14* moments independent of him as well that I feel like stand out. *51:21* Letty has not been that. *51:25* Other than maybe again the race war scene where she beats the one guy. *51:27* And the drag race and then the heist. *51:32* And that's about it. *51:35* Really? *51:36* So Well that's we're gonna put a pin in Letty. *51:37* And then as she For fast six. *51:40* Yeah. *51:41* For fast six, obviously, it's very much the Letty *51:42* movie to a certain degree, you know, because of the post-credit scene. *51:45* Do you believe in ghosts Logan? *51:49* Do you believe in ghosts? *51:51* Should we talk about that for a second, that post-credit scene? *51:52* This was the one *51:56* Back in the Too Fast Too Furious episode, you asked if Eva Mendez comes back at all. *51:57* And I was like, Yep, she's back. *52:01* And this is it, baby. *52:03* Let's go. *52:04* And it it was uh again, it was a *52:06* If that's the only time she ever comes back, then that's a smart way to do it because her character in Too Fast was not important enough to bring back. *52:09* Like if she would have come back to the cast and been involved in a major way, I would have been like, okay. *52:17* Uh yeah, her character in Too Fast kind of sucked. *52:32* So for her to just show up kind of briefly in this was a good callback, but it wasn't *52:35* Like to the point where it's like, okay, what are we doing here? *52:40* We scraping the bottom of the barrel with the characters to bring back. *52:43* Um, so that was fun. *52:47* I think in a lot of ways though we talked in our Fast and Furious episode though about how a lot of that movie's plot is *52:49* uh lost by the fact that I know Letty returns in the future and you know Letty returns in the future. *52:59* Like this is just a known *53:05* given thing now with the franchise for anybody who is paying attention to it nowadays. *53:07* So it I the end credit scene has no *53:13* impact in that way for me of oh my gosh, Letty's alive, I didn't know this. *53:17* I'm sure back in 2011 it was like holy smokes. *53:22* I was gonna say if you saw it in 2011, I'm sure it's a much different story *53:26* Uh, but yeah, now I mean it it didn't do much for me. *53:30* Again, the more surprising thing was, oh crap, Eva Mendez is here. *53:33* What the heck? *53:37* Like that was the bigger surprise to me. *53:38* That's hilarious. *53:40* So so yeah, but it it is a good it's a good it's a good tease for the next one though. *53:42* I I feel like a lot of times these post-credit scenes, especially *53:48* I feel like Marvel's kind of ruined them. *53:52* Like it used to be ten, fifteen years ago, in credit scenes used to actually be teases for the next movie. *53:54* Nowadays it is very much like Marvel will tease something and you have no idea when the thing they teased is going to come into play and it could be like three or four years later and you're like, Oh yeah, the finally the thing that they uh hinted at that one time is come into *54:01* Coming into play all these years later. *54:15* Like this a very much would be a good tease for the next movie. *54:17* It is. *54:21* And it's *54:22* While it's not as on the no like pick up immediately where we left off as Fast and Furious is to Fast Five, the the job that she that um Iva Mendez's character mentions *54:23* That is in Fast and Furious 6. *54:37* So the continuity is strong. *54:40* It's not just a wave of the hands, look, Letty's alive. *54:42* There's there's consequences. *54:46* Like what they talk about plays out. *54:47* And so that's *54:49* always um fun to see, you know, going forward. *54:50* So the one other set of characters, before we move on to some of the other *54:55* uh last bits of uh some of the ancillary things. *55:00* What are the two uh other members of the family that we have not talked about in this movie? *55:03* The ones that speak *55:09* Spanish or Portuguese. *55:11* I want to say it's Tego, but now I'm gonna double check it. *55:12* One of them is Don Omar. *55:16* That's the real name of the person, a musician and rapper and whatnot. *55:18* Um *55:23* Don O'Mar plays Rico Santos and Oh, Tego Calerdon. *55:24* I totally botched that. *55:31* So Tego's his real name. *55:33* He plays Leo. *55:34* So it's Leo Leo. *55:35* Leo and Santos is what the plot description we're seeing here says. *55:37* Anyway, the those two. *55:42* I I guess my question is just *55:44* Do they show up in future movies? *55:47* I feel like they're the ones that are just kind of forced in here and like, oh yeah, remember those guys that you saw for five minutes at the start of Fast and Furious? *55:49* Well let's put them in this. *55:56* And I don't think they have bad scenes necessarily, but they are *55:57* They do kind of stick out like a sore thumb in this movie, and they're the ones that are just sort of they They I'll tell you this. *56:01* They don't show up very much later on. *56:10* They well they are in there, but they are more regaled to smaller cameo-sized roles. *56:12* They clearly were *56:20* You know, a new pair in Fast and Furious, and they played a role in the the short film for that, The Los Bandoleros. *56:23* And then they have a I think a good chemistry and are very they are *56:31* a different type of comedic relief from Roman Intaj they weren't in this movie. *56:37* I do I told you I do actually like how they're written too. *56:43* Because it's always written in such a way where one of them speaks Spanish and then the other speaks English in response and then they crisscross like that throughout the whole movie. *56:46* So it's a very funny idea by Justin Lanner, whoever wrote the characters. *56:54* That being said, they don't The dynamic of the mo of the characters in the movie is such that they're all bouncing off each other a lot. *56:59* Those two feel like they really only bounce off of one another. *57:07* So there's this larger group dynamic at play where everybody's kind of chemistry. *57:11* Yes, yeah. *57:16* There's this larger group play and this everybody's intermingling with one another and then they're just kind of there. *57:17* talking amongst themselves in this larger group of people. *57:23* And it's it's very awkward in that regard. *57:26* Um because I don't think they are bad characters, they just very much feel disjointed from the rest of the cast in many ways. *57:29* So You're absolutely correct. *57:36* And there's uh there's a reason they play smaller roles in the future and stuff. *57:38* And it's they're both actually in real life musicians and rappers who, at least Don Omar, if not um Tego as well, contributed to the soundtracks. *57:41* So it's kinda like uh hey, kinda like um in f the fast and the furious, who was the one who shouts Monica, that rapper? *57:50* Oh, that's uh Ja Rule. *58:00* Ja Rule and Ludacris and Too Fast, Too Furious. *58:01* These kind of carry on that spirit of bringing a musician. *58:04* who's on the soundtrack as well to like act out a role. *58:09* Now these two certainly play the most prominent outside of Ludacris's character, Tez, who is a series staple from here on out. *58:12* Tez is here for the rest of it. *58:21* So, you know, it's interesting. *58:23* They're fun. *58:26* I don't mind them in the movie, but I don't miss them necessarily in later ones, and we'll explore that in future episodes. *58:28* Last character to talk about. *58:35* We talked about him briefly, but let's uh give him a little bit more do because this is the last time we'll ever talk about him is uh Vince. *58:36* How did you feel about him being reincorporated back in this movie? *58:44* And then I guess just his general arc *58:48* Because I was surprised to see him show back up because he did feel he was he was important to Fast and the Fast and the Furious's plot. *58:52* Like he was one of the main five or six characters in that movie. *58:59* But I very much did not expect him to show back up again. *59:03* So when he does, it was a surprise to me. *59:06* That was the one true surprise of the movie. *59:08* I didn't know that was a thing. *59:10* Other than that, though, I don't *59:12* Yeah, I don't feel like he gets a ton of great moments in this movie. *59:15* Even his death feels very much like, ow, I got shot. *59:18* I'm dying. *59:22* Tell my kid goodby watch over my kid, Dom. *59:23* And then he just kinda *59:26* falls over and that and then they cut to the next thing and he's dead. *59:27* Like he doesn't seem like he's dying, he's just kind of like, oh man, I'm dying. *59:30* And then you see his body in the next one. *59:35* Uh so kind of an awkward send-off for his character. *59:38* Uh and he really feels like he is just there *59:42* To make this sort of sacrifice and die and then unite everybody there and like it he feels like a plot device more than he does. *59:46* He feels like he has like a great character arc in this movie, I guess I would say. *59:55* Sure. *01:00:00* I I agree with that. *01:00:01* He's he's there to make the Reyes part more personal. *01:00:03* You know, it's really just uh uh we need this money to clear our names and and run away. *01:00:08* Um, suddenly it becomes very personal at the end of the movie. *01:00:14* And it is what unite well, part of it, the attack that ends up killing Vince. *01:00:18* you know, is what unites Hobbes and Dom together. *01:00:24* So it it is a plot device to unite these two enemies against the the Rey the Reyes character. *01:00:28* I like Vince being in the movie though and playing just the little role he does because it just kinda brings this whole *01:00:37* Finally, everyone's getting together. *01:00:45* There's a culmination to it. *01:00:47* And it it gives us that fast, the fast and furious tie that isn't the the core three that we still have from there. *01:00:48* It's just one more callback that *01:00:55* feels good and makes sense and we get to see some of the consequences that play out from that movie. *01:00:58* He has that moment talking to Brian about how he's just kind of tumbled through South America and really only stopped. *01:01:03* once he um met his wife and had a son. *01:01:09* So some of that you get to see that play out. *01:01:14* In his death and the subsequent action, it feels like *01:01:17* Not substantially better, but it does feel like a better version of Jesse, that type of thing, where it takes what's going on and makes it personal to Dom and the other characters. *01:01:21* This was a bit more. *01:01:33* Subdued. *01:01:35* It's certainly not slow-mo running across the field and you know chasing people down the street. *01:01:36* It's it gives us one of those quieter moments, family, and *01:01:41* I like Vince being there. *01:01:47* It's just it's fun as a fan of the series. *01:01:49* And if you've never seen it, he's just a w w write-off character for ya. *01:01:52* But it's just one of those fun nods, I think, for fans. *01:01:57* Yeah, I do agree with that. *01:02:01* It was nice to see him show back show up show back up purely because it was another callback and it was another character that they could pluck from the past and throw in this movie. *01:02:02* And it didn't feel *01:02:11* Like I I mentioned how Eva Mendez's character being heavily involved with the plot of any of these movies would have felt awkward because I didn't feel like yes, she was an important character in one of the movies. *01:02:13* But I didn't feel like her showing up again would have made uh much sense or would have been done well. *01:02:24* Vince showing back up makes sense. *01:02:28* Uh *01:02:31* It doesn't feel it doesn't feel off in that manner. *01:02:32* It doesn't feel like they are forcing his character back in the movie in a way that is cumbersome. *01:02:35* It is just what they do with his character once he once he is introduced again and once he does show up and become tied to the events of the movie that does feel a little bit *01:02:42* Uh I wouldn't even say awkward, maybe just dissatisfying with how his arc shallows. *01:02:51* Shallow, maybe. *01:02:56* Yeah, shallow's a good word for it. *01:02:58* Yeah, for sure *01:02:59* But yeah, I I think that's all the characters in the movie. *01:03:00* I mean again I I there's just so many in this movie I wanted to kind of talk about all of them and flesh out. *01:03:03* I think that's really *01:03:08* That's the crux of the movie. *01:03:10* Yeah, and we haven't even touched on like, you know, Han and Giselle becoming a thing, which is kind of That feels forced, I feel like I feel like I don't know if there's much else to say with that, but it's just kind of like, oh, we're gonna put *01:03:11* Han and Giselle together because uh now we're gonna put Dom with this top lady that he found, so he's not gonna be into Giselle, which *01:03:23* Dom, I don't I don't I don't know what you're thinking on that one, buddy. *01:03:31* If uh Galgado's throwing herself at you, you might wanna you might wanna chase after that, especially if you're open to getting in another relationship after your girlfriend gets uh killed off *01:03:34* The one other thing that we do need to talk about that I think is very important before we start uh touching on some of the uh last aspects of this movie is *01:03:45* We gotta touch on the central action scene of the film because we have not touched talked about it in any sort of deep manner yet, which is them stealing. *01:03:54* the safe with all the money in it. *01:04:05* And going through the streets of uh I was gonna say the streets of Brazil, but Brazil's not a town. *01:04:07* I don't know what city they are in. *01:04:13* Rio. *01:04:14* They're in Rio? *01:04:15* Okay. *01:04:16* Okay, so yeah, they're riding through the streets of Rio uh with Dodge Chargers pulling this bank vault around *01:04:17* It is a crazy sequence. *01:04:25* It's made even crazier by the fact that I mean I I think I think this is actually naturally gonna lead to us talking about a lot of the stunts and *01:04:27* uh effects that were used in the movie naturally. *01:04:35* So we can kind of incorporate that discussion into into our talks about this scene. *01:04:38* But yeah, I I don't know. *01:04:43* Like *01:04:45* I'm curious to see this is by far gotta be one of the best sequences so far in the series of any of these that I've seen. *01:04:46* I don't know what else would even compare. *01:04:55* I will say the opening scene of Fast and Furious I still think is quite good. *01:04:57* But this is easily the best like set piece that we've seen so far in any of these movies that we've watched in this chronological order. *01:05:01* And I'm just very fascinated to see how they ramp it up from this point. *01:05:11* Um so yeah. *01:05:16* I don't know. *01:05:18* What do you what do you think about the *01:05:18* The the bank vault heist. *01:05:20* The bank vault heist is personally like one of my favorite set pieces in film. *01:05:23* Just the *01:05:32* It teeters that line of audacity and reality. *01:05:34* It it's grounded enough. *01:05:39* It's not as absurd as the stuff we're gonna see in the f these future films. *01:05:42* There's just stuff *01:05:46* that, you know, transcends reality and just goes to total bonkers ballistic. *01:05:47* And that's fun. *01:05:53* Those belong, they have their place. *01:05:54* But the safe always had a grounded just absurdity to it, which feels almost um, you know, like an oxymoron to say, a grounded absurdity. *01:05:56* But *01:06:09* It was always something that I always thought, like, man, Mythbuster should test this. *01:06:10* Like, this has gotta be cool. *01:06:16* And then before Fast 9 came out, there was a video I wrote about it on max frequency. *01:06:18* That talked about how they pulled this off. *01:06:23* And I had never known, you know, from 2011 up through Fast 9 *01:06:26* that this was actually pulled off with practical effects. *01:06:31* And there's this great dive into them pulling, you know, an empty model safe through these streets and sets and really and I think that's what lends itself to it. *01:06:34* Is there's just a part of your brain that can tell when things are super CG and when things are have practicality to it. *01:06:45* And this is one of them. *01:06:53* And it's *01:06:54* It's so much fun and it's so back to oceans. *01:06:56* You know, the heist of that movie is breaking in the casino and stealing all the money. *01:07:00* This is the f the fast and furious energy of a heist. *01:07:05* It's like of course we're gonna drag a bank vault through a city. *01:07:09* Like *01:07:12* That's how we get the money is. *01:07:12* And you really don't know what the plan is exactly until you see it happening. *01:07:14* Like you have an idea, like they are talking about the avoiding the cameras, and then they don't do that, and then they end up *01:07:18* Take you stealing the police cars and then they order a bank vault and they like they kind of lay it out, but you don't really have a good idea of how this is all going to shake out until it happens. *01:07:24* And I think a part of that is *01:07:35* Vince dying and turning it personal. *01:07:38* It was just it's like, of course we're just gonna take the money and like drive away. *01:07:40* Like you kind of forget about the *01:07:44* plan until you're on the bridge and you're like, oh, how are we gonna get the vault out of here? *01:07:46* And then the reveal at the end where they've bait and switched the vault, it's just that satisfying like *01:07:51* Little reveal, it's like, of course they did this. *01:07:57* This is great. *01:07:59* This it's so much fun using the vault as a weapon against police cars. *01:08:00* Which is so over the top as stupid. *01:08:05* Yeah. *01:08:11* It's so much fun. *01:08:11* It is by far one of my favorite set pieces. *01:08:13* In movies. *01:08:17* It's just every time I see them hook that up to the vault and pull it out. *01:08:18* I'm like, let's *01:08:24* go. *01:08:25* And it builds perfectly to that. *01:08:26* And they spend it's a fairly lengthy set. *01:08:27* Yeah, it's all stance welcome. *01:08:31* And then it does get to the city. *01:08:34* Like it is not like you get the initial parts of them dragging it around the city for the first couple minutes and then it turns into, okay, well now there's people in front of us. *01:08:37* and then they turn it into a battery battering ram and then they're spinning around with it and then they're and then uh Dom disconnects Brian and then turns it into a wrecking ball. *01:08:45* Like there's just yeah, there's so much at play *01:08:55* with how they mix up what is going on in this the final fifteen to twenty minutes of the movie centered around this whole it's excellent set piece design where they take an idea, a core idea, dragging a vault through a city *01:08:59* And do every possible thing they can do with it without overstaying the welcome. *01:09:12* So it works, it's efficient, and it's tight, and it's a really well shot and done. *01:09:17* It's the momentum of it. *01:09:23* Speaking more to how it was shot and kind of getting into our stunts and effects uh talk, yeah, I I think that is the most impressive thing about *01:09:25* This whole scene, uh the whole sequence is that you can tell they actually just straight up did this and it was done largely with practical effects. *01:09:36* Um and even this parts where there is CG like you told me to keep an eye out for and you know which parts which parts are CG and which parts aren't *01:09:45* And you can see a little bit, but they do a good job of even hiding the parts that weren't practical effects. *01:09:53* And that's it it just I think we're at a point where *01:10:00* We we've talked about this throughout this season so far, about how refreshing it is to go watch these old movies again because you can tell that the a lot of the scenes are or a lot of these action sequences in particular *01:10:05* are done with practical effects. *01:10:18* And that seems to be less and less of a thing nowadays with, you know, your Marvel movies and your Star Wars movies. *01:10:20* And like there is a sense of practicality to *01:10:26* some of those films or whatever whatever the other big blockbuster films are that you can think of. *01:10:29* But we really are on a full CG *01:10:35* train at this point it feels like. *01:10:39* Like either like what is one of the b what's gonna be the biggest movie of the rest of the year? *01:10:41* I don't know. *01:10:44* Avatar probably. *01:10:44* Well okay. *01:10:46* That's all yeah. *01:10:47* But that I know that's a different level and the CG in that will be good *01:10:48* The compared to Marvel CG compared to Marvel CG, which feels like it's steadily getting worse somehow, which I would say I don't understand, but I also know they're overworking these visual effects come out. *01:10:52* You know, fairly and so CG feels like it's getting worse because studios are being overworked and they don't have the manpower to really touch up these scenes like they once did, which again *01:11:06* That makes the practical effects that much better now with these movies. *01:11:21* Like it is so and I I think that's a a big reason why Top Gun Maverick was so successful and huge this year. *01:11:25* Like you could tell *01:11:32* This was something they shot in jets or planes of some sort. *01:11:34* Tom Cruise was in a cockpit flying around. *01:11:39* Like that's not *01:11:42* Fake. *01:11:43* They're doing this. *01:11:43* They're shooting this movie. *01:11:44* Like, and they're CG in that movie as well. *01:11:45* But like it just ha these movies have a different feel when you can tell that they are really *01:11:48* Expending the budget to go big with these set pieces, not just in design of what is happening, but also in how they are being shot. *01:11:53* Because I'm sure it's easy to think up these ideas *01:12:02* From a director or writer perspective, like, hey, we want to do this, and then just pitch the idea to a visual effects studio and have them kind of craft it from there. *01:12:05* It's a totally different animal though, and it comes across so much different on film when these scenes are things that they're, you know, shutting down streets for and setting up setting up these scenes. *01:12:13* And I I I I the thing I would be curious about is how many *01:12:24* like shots they were able or how many repeated shots they were able to do or repeated takes they were able to have with this bankfall stuff like *01:12:27* Are they like, we have two takes that we can do with this and we we have to get it right and whatever happens is what we have to use because I would imagine it's not something you can really *01:12:36* repeat quite a bit. *01:12:47* You should you should check out the video that I I linked to last year. *01:12:49* I'll send it to you. *01:12:52* It does um *01:12:53* It'll blow your mind. *01:12:55* It'll it'll absolutely blow your mind. *01:12:56* This this will be in the show notes for you listeners. *01:12:58* I'll check it out. *01:13:01* But yeah, it's a gr it's a great in-cap to the movie and uh just everything *01:13:01* associated with it. *01:13:06* The editing, the stunts, the the production as a whole is just very, very well done. *01:13:07* Good job by Justin Lynn. *01:13:14* The stunt coordinators, again, what are their names? *01:13:16* Uh Mike Gunther and Troy Robinson. *01:13:19* Just everybody involved did a really great job on this. *01:13:21* And yeah, props to props to all. *01:13:25* Hmm. *01:13:27* There's there was one, it's not necessarily a stunt, but one element of the movie I definitely wanted to touch on, you know, before we wrapped up. *01:13:29* which was street racing. *01:13:38* And there are two parts of this movie about street racing. *01:13:39* There is the the quick bit of we need cars to practice drifting through this uh parking garage to get to the vault. *01:13:43* Where they go to this uh you know the underground street racing part of Rio, talk it up, like, you know, here we're gonna race for pink slips, and they cut away and we're just driving in with the Porsche. *01:13:52* You want to see the street race like a part of you wants to see the street race, but you also know they're gonna win, and I think it's actually cut. *01:14:05* Yes, I agree with you. *01:14:13* It it hits just right, it's funny. *01:14:14* But also kind of cool. *01:14:17* Like of course you won. *01:14:19* And you're driving in with this sweet blue Porsche. *01:14:20* So I really love that. *01:14:23* I think that's just a great little bit. *01:14:24* And you know they keep doing it because they keep coming back and practicing with new cars. *01:14:27* Like they just keep winning cars, which is cool to think about. *01:14:31* But the bigger street race is the police car race where Dom *01:14:36* Brian, Han, and Roman all steal these police cars and they line up and they do a million dollar quarter mile. *01:14:44* I love this scene. *01:14:52* It is a representation of every movie up to this point. *01:14:53* Too fast, Tokyo Drift, and then obviously the original and Fast Four with Brian and Dom. *01:14:56* And it's this great dynamic. *01:15:02* These their personalities shine through in the racing. *01:15:03* And we get that Brian actually wins the race. *01:15:07* And then later it's revealed that he let off the throttle and let Brian win as a baby gift. *01:15:09* What did you think about this race? *01:15:15* The race is really fun because *01:15:18* It's just it gets back to the roots of what the series is, which I I think is just a quarter mile straight stretch down the street. *01:15:23* Let's see who can get there first. *01:15:30* Uh like the some of the other street races, particularly the one we saw in Fast and Furious was, you know, they're zipping in and out between other cars. *01:15:32* There's a lot of other factors in play. *01:15:40* This just gets back to *01:15:42* kind of w the the street races that we knew from the OG movie, which is just whoever's got the fastest car and can hit this straight away and gets to what we're marking as the finish line is the winner. *01:15:44* And I I like that call back. *01:15:55* And I like that again *01:15:57* This has been the through line of the series up until now with Brian and Dom is that Brian wants to beat Dom. *01:15:59* Not be not because, you know, they're betting *01:16:06* a million dollar quarter miles, it's because and he wants the money, it's because he just wants di at the core of this entire relationship is that he still wants Dom's respect *01:16:09* And even when he feels like he's gotten Dom's respect, whether it be uh for how he's handled his relationship with Mia or the fact that they really are a family and that they're close *01:16:21* They have a kinship in that manner now. *01:16:30* At the end of the day, he really wants Dom's respect as a driver, which is the one thing he feels like he still hasn't gotten. *01:16:33* And so I love that they have continued to come back to that. *01:16:42* And it's even the final endpoint of the movie too, the conversation with them to wrap this all up is that after everything they've done, they've stolen this *01:16:45* Tens of the millions of dollars they've gotten away, they're living comfortably, they've both they're both in happy relationships and *01:16:54* What's the one thing Brian still wants? *01:17:02* I I don't want my quarter mile race and I don't want you to let up this time. *01:17:04* I want to really beat you in this race. *01:17:07* And I I think that's a great through line for the characters, and I I think it's *01:17:10* Uh it's just a lot of repeated fun. *01:17:14* And again, it it's one of those things that I don't think you can appreciate unless you've seen the other movie. *01:17:16* Like it it it is one of those aspects that I don't know if new viewers coming into Fast Vive for the first time would really understand and appreciate. *01:17:23* Maybe to some degree they would, but it it feels like it makes the larger series uh *01:17:31* like congruent and it makes it it makes it feel like a whole it makes it feel like we really have grown since the original Fast and Furious movie. *01:17:37* So I I I like it quite a bit. *01:17:47* Yeah, it's it's a great scene and it fits in well and gives us a little bit of that original spirit. *01:17:50* I'm a big fan. *01:17:57* Is there anything else that you would like to say about uh the music in this, the editing, the stunts, some of those other a ancillary aspects that I know we like to touch on before we get into best car? *01:18:00* The not really the soundtrack I honestly couldn't tell you what the single was from this movie. *01:18:14* It's a little bit on the fast and furious side of *01:18:20* Forgettable. *01:18:23* That will be a problem that resolves itself going forward here. *01:18:24* Didn't you tell me there's a song in this that you hear at weddings all the time? *01:18:28* Oh yes. *01:18:31* The um I think it plays during the credits. *01:18:32* The um *01:18:34* It's a Don Omar song. *01:18:36* I'm I'm gonna pull up the I'll pull fast five soundtrack. *01:18:37* I'll pull it up. *01:18:40* But yes, I do hear this one song at weddings all the time. *01:18:41* So *01:18:45* I do pull that from this movie. *01:18:46* I Yeah, that was the only song I really remember you mentioning to me that it was like, oh this is the this is a this is a the big song from the movie. *01:18:47* We're about to enter the Whiz Khalifa era of Fast and Furious, so um *01:18:55* it will definitely start to stand out at least a bit more to the North American audience. *01:19:00* So Alright, let's do best car then. *01:19:05* Mine's very simple this time. *01:19:08* It's not simple, but I just know I just know what the car I love is in this movie. *01:19:10* I think there are two options. *01:19:14* Okay. *01:19:17* Personal. *01:19:17* Can I can I guess what the options are? *01:19:18* Let me guess. *01:19:20* Yeah. *01:19:21* I think I think you will be correct in your guesses, so go for it. *01:19:21* What do you think? *01:19:24* The poor the Porsche GT3, the nine nine si *01:19:25* The Porsche nine nine six yeah, the blue Porsche. *01:19:28* That is the cover art of this particular episode, but no, that is not one of my two. *01:19:31* Okay. *01:19:35* I would say *01:19:36* Uh is it the stingray that drives off the the bridge? *01:19:39* That is one of them, yes. *01:19:43* Okay *01:19:45* And then I know you liked Mia's car that she drove at the end of Fast and Furious, and that technically shows up again in this movie. *01:19:46* I would not I would not double dip there. *01:19:52* I wouldn't do that. *01:19:54* I didn't think you would double dip. *01:19:55* Uh I'll say what mine is then. *01:19:56* What is yours? *01:19:59* I'll say what mine is. *01:19:59* Mine is the G the Ford GT40 is my favorite in this movie. *01:20:00* I love the You you were very close because that's my other car. *01:20:04* Mia also drives this car in this movie. *01:20:08* Yes. *01:20:10* I love the 4GT. *01:20:12* It's *01:20:13* That is the car I wanted to buy to take pictures of, but the Porsche was in the the multi-pack that I bought. *01:20:14* So I compromised because I needed the other cars from the other movies *01:20:21* The 4GT40 is just perfect. *01:20:25* Yes, it's such a good car that actually surprisingly plays *01:20:30* a fairly like central role for a car in this movie. *01:20:34* They take it apart, they figure out the chip, the magic chip. *01:20:37* It's I love this car. *01:20:41* And you know how much how much those cars cost? *01:20:43* Too much. *01:20:45* Like 10 mil. *01:20:46* Yeah. *01:20:47* It's it's nuts. *01:20:49* So I love the GT40. *01:20:50* I'm perfectly happy saying that's the best car. *01:20:52* The the Stingray Corvette that they do drive off the cliff *01:20:54* I like it because it's unique looking, but I think it's a little too it's got too many different parts, like accent pieces to it that kind of make looking at it still is *01:20:57* I'm not too big on in motion. *01:21:09* I think it's great, but the GT40 is is lean, clean, and mean and iconic. *01:21:11* So I'm um I'm a huge fan of the GT40. *01:21:17* So that's your choice as well? *01:21:21* Oh yeah, let's just do it. *01:21:23* GT40 all the way. *01:21:24* Okay. *01:21:25* I didn't know if you had another one that you GT40 in the Corvette. *01:21:26* Okay, then yeah, the GT40 is the G the 4 GT in general is one of my favorite cars. *01:21:30* It's up there. *01:21:35* If I was to list like favorite cars in general, uh I've always said Dodge Viper is my favorite car. *01:21:35* Uh but yeah, four GTs are also up there. *01:21:42* And this is one of the classic models. *01:21:45* So yes, it is excellent. *01:21:48* Excellent. *01:21:50* I guess that's it then outside of the film's legacy, which I think is again something we already touched on, and I think is a very straightforward or well, there's two legacy touchstones to this. *01:21:51* One is that *01:22:02* This is the movie where everybody comes together. *01:22:03* This is the Avengers of the Fast franchise, as we said at the start, and it is very much the reason. *01:22:05* Why Fast X is a thing that's about to come out. *01:22:12* Like the without this movie, I this really felt like a make or break. *01:22:14* moment. *01:22:21* Like if this movie would have not done as well as it did, I feel like they may have not come out with any more of these afterwards. *01:22:21* Unless I am wrong. *01:22:30* Uh but it felt like this was really Fast and Furious was them coming back with the series and you know what what's the what was the tagline for that? *01:22:31* Uh *01:22:41* Um new model original parts. *01:22:43* New model original parts, yeah. *01:22:45* And so that was very much them trying to tap back into what the to the original film and saying, Hey, we're back, and then that movie came out and it was a stinker and not many people liked it *01:22:47* And it made some money back for them, but not so much that I felt like they would have continued to make these movies if they were stinkers in perpetuity. *01:22:57* So if this movie was not legitimately good and it didn't also make the money it made, I really feel like *01:23:05* We may have not gotten another one of these. *01:23:15* Um But that didn't happen. *01:23:17* Now there's a lot of other movies we have to watch. *01:23:20* Yes. *01:23:23* Uh and I really feel like that is *01:23:23* The movie's legacy in a lot of ways feels like it is a lot of people's favorites. *01:23:26* It is the most important movie, and it is kind of the centerpiece of the whole fast universe for *01:23:30* In a lot of ways. *01:23:39* Like this is this is the everything else revolves around this movie in a lot of ways. *01:23:40* It is it is the launch point for *01:23:45* The multi-billion dollar franchise that comes after it. *01:23:49* It's m you know, one of the few non-Disney owned franchises in the top grossing movies of all time. *01:23:53* Not this particular film, but *01:24:00* uh the movies that come after it and it's all because they w went for it here. *01:24:01* It you know went from underground street racing to *01:24:08* assembling a team and pulling off ice and doing superhero stuff. *01:24:13* And I love this movie. *01:24:17* I th it it *01:24:21* It's the movie, you know. *01:24:23* Um, if I were to tell if you could pick one movie out of the ten or eleven that we're gonna have here by May of twenty three. *01:24:25* This is the movie. *01:24:33* I d if I could only have one of 'em, I would pick this up. *01:24:34* You wouldn't pick Hobbs and Shaw? *01:24:36* I mean maybe that's the one. *01:24:38* You wouldn't pick Too Fast Too Furious? *01:24:40* I'd pick this one. *01:24:42* I love Too Fast Too Furious. *01:24:43* I'm probably one of Too Fast Too Furious' biggest defenders. *01:24:44* But this is pound for pound, I think, the best of the series. *01:24:47* Uh at Justin Lynn, I think, at his peak. *01:24:53* The everyone coming together. *01:24:57* It's just it's the right kind of magic. *01:24:58* It's movie magic through and through. *01:25:01* Hollywood at the top of its game. *01:25:03* You know, the true over-the-top kind of Hollywood. *01:25:05* And *01:25:09* I love it. *01:25:10* That's the family, right? *01:25:11* Family. *01:25:14* Family, family, family. *01:25:14* Families every other guy. *01:25:15* You know, the only thing really missing from this movie was Corona. *01:25:17* But don't worry. *01:25:20* Corona. *01:25:21* Pointed out that the beers they were drinking were not Corona. *01:25:22* So Corona will make a comeback. *01:25:25* Just you wait. *01:25:28* But that's gonna do it for Fast Five. *01:25:29* So thank you so much for listening. *01:25:32* We appreciate it. *01:25:34* If you want to check out more of the show, you can follow it on Twitter at Chapter Select or go to 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