# Chapter Select, [[S4E5 - Fast & Furious 6]] Transcript This transcription was completed on March 4, 2026 with the application MacWhisper on macOS. This was done automatically, without human input during the transcription process. The transcription used the Parakeet v3 model. My hope is that by offering this transcription – however accurate it may be done by a machine learning/AI – will help you, the listener. I’d love to offer full, proper transcription some day, but that is not feasible at this time. Thank you for listening and reading. I hope you enjoy the show and that this document was helpful. Enjoy. --- Logan. *00:00* Yes. *00:02* I have to ask. *00:02* Did you stick around for the post credit scene? *00:05* Yes. *00:07* At the very, very end? *00:08* Just the middle credits. *00:10* Mid middle credits. *00:11* Oh, I saw it. *00:12* Yeah. *00:12* Dominic Toretto, you don't know *00:12* me but you're about to, yes. *00:14* I didn't know if you saw that or not. *00:16* Um I was nervous to tell you *00:18* Because I stuck around. *00:22* Okay, because if you didn't know what I was about to turn it off and then I was like, Oh wait, hold on, they got these in credits. *00:24* Let me wait a second and I saw that. *00:31* That was I didn't know. *00:33* I didn't want to say anything. *00:34* Because of your you don't haven't seen Tokyo Drift? *00:36* Or yeah. *00:39* So now my so now my guess, because I mean like I said, I have seen Tokyo Drift but it's been so long and I don't remember *00:40* So what I'm thinking of is at the end of Tokyo Drift, the other family members show up in Tokyo because Han is dead, and they're like, where our boy's dead, where is *00:45* And this has brought us to Tokyo now. *00:59* Where's Lil Bow Wow? *01:01* So I've only listened to uh the first episode. *01:05* So uh you've decided to skip *01:08* The third one? *01:11* Anyone straight in the fourth? *01:11* Yeah, we're watching in chronological order. *01:13* Oh, but not release order. *01:17* Not release order. *01:18* So it's weird because basically the only shift is is Tokyo Drift is like the sixth movie. *01:19* Alright, we'll watch Tokyo Drift next. *01:25* Okay. *01:28* I have seen that one, but it was like a long it was like 15 years ago, so I don't remember anything about it at all. *01:29* That's fair. *01:34* That's fair. *01:35* Okay. *01:35* I was like I I was gonna post two in the and I was like, wait a minute, how much does Logan actually know? *01:36* And that's why I I tried to hold that back as well I've seen every I've seen one through six now, and then obviously we'll *01:41* And he but he hasn't seen seven eight nine or Hobbes and Shaw. *01:49* Sure. *01:56* Like I knew this this whole movie I was like, oh uh what's his name is gonna be *01:57* Brother is gonna show up as looking for. *02:03* He's gonna show up in the next movie. *02:06* Um What is his name? *02:08* The actor I can *02:10* Remember Jason Statham. *02:11* I was like, oh, Jason Statham's not in this movie, so that means he must be brother of the man in this film. *02:12* Got it, gotta mean it's the next movie you're watching. *02:19* Who's the Shaw? *02:24* Yes. *02:26* Right. *02:27* So she when they kept saying the words together Hobbes and Shaw at some point. *02:27* I was like, whoa. *02:31* What's the other Shaw's name? *02:34* Is it like Deckard or something? *02:35* Exactly. *02:37* Deckard. *02:37* Yeah, that's Jason's data. *02:38* Okay. *02:40* Oh boy. *02:41* Yeah, so the next Mario, we're doing the next one with Mike. *02:44* He wanted Tokyo Drift, and then Ricky is doing seven. *02:47* Okay. *02:52* So that's our *02:53* thing. *02:54* Mario, what is the deal with Jurassic Park 3? *02:55* Or was it World? *02:59* I missed was it World or *03:00* It's World Three. *03:02* Oh, okay. *03:03* Never mind. *03:04* I my brain went to Park. *03:05* I was like, why are you watching the Velociraptor How to Talk to Velociraptor movie? *03:07* I actually I watched all of them recently. *03:12* to lead up to Dominion. *03:14* And you know what? *03:15* Justice Park III is not as bad as I remember it being. *03:16* Justice Park II was that bad. *03:18* I like I like three. *03:20* Two is *03:22* Two does not hold up. *03:24* I I'm shocked because I used to like two a lot. *03:25* Even the gymnastics stuff I like totally forgave it. *03:27* I thought I think the idea was to have the dinosaur on land. *03:29* was like so like oh that's so cool and now they just f it online all the time now so it doesn't matter. *03:32* Dinosaurs in a city? *03:38* What a novel concept. *03:39* Blockbuster? *03:41* Yeah *03:42* That's it. *03:44* That's it about that movie. *03:45* What is this close calendar? *03:46* But maybe watch that later with a friend. *03:48* I watched already in the theaters. *03:50* I hated it. *03:51* Isn't there like a lot of isn't one of the main plot lines involved like locusts or something really strange. *03:53* It's fucking annoying. *04:01* People are like, oh yeah, this dinosaur movie, the main plot is locust. *04:02* I was like It's basically Locust from G uh Gears of War, which is kind of weird. *04:05* Like it's literally like that. *04:11* Underground locust *04:12* They're genetically altered locusts that eat crops. *04:14* Destroy crops. *04:19* And only crops. *04:19* That's right. *04:21* And so they have to go into the dinosaur park to find a way to stop the locusts. *04:21* Pretty much. *04:27* They waste oh my gosh, they waste the return of the three original cast. *04:29* And yeah. *04:35* The whole time I was like before the movie came out, I was just like, oh man, I'm scared because you know one of these original people are gonna die. *04:37* And I was very disappointed in this movie. *04:43* I'll just say that. *04:45* That's all I'll say *04:46* Very disappointing. *04:50* It's a big bumper. *04:51* Um okay. *04:52* Mario, are you recording on your end? *04:53* I have yeah, I have been recording. *04:55* Okay. *04:57* Sweet. *04:57* You're the best. *04:58* Um let's just get into it because I gotta work in a bit. *05:01* I don't know. *05:04* I don't wanna keep Mario too long. *05:05* I just gotta clean my house. *05:08* That's all I gotta do today. *05:09* Okay, I gotta work in a like a like a couple *05:10* Couple hours, so and I got some other stuff to do before that, so let's uh look at this guy. *05:13* He's just ready to die, but moving. *05:20* I *05:23* I'm ready to move in. *05:23* I edited. *05:24* I was editing Fast Five this morning, and at least three times in the pre-show you're like, let's get the show on the road. *05:26* But then you came up with another thing to talk about. *05:32* It was the espresso was *05:35* wiring you. *05:37* Yes, it very much was. *05:38* This morning I just have normal coffee. *05:40* Yeah. *05:43* I was I noticed that. *05:44* I was like, ah, this is how espresso affects my friend. *05:46* So um is there anything and obviously if there are specific things you want to bring up like the sh like we really don't have *05:50* like broad things to touch on. *05:59* Like usually we you know, we talk about our impressions of the movie and then kinda break down the story and the characters and things like that that happens. *06:01* You know, the big *06:09* set piece moments. *06:11* I'm sure we'll talk about tanks and airplanes and such. *06:12* And then we have to we usually touch on the stunts in the movie, which is again all the set pieces and stuff. *06:16* Most of my notes are just, hey, I recognize these wrestling moves in a lot of these fights. *06:22* So I wrote down the wrote down the name of the wrestling moves. *06:27* Which will be quite helpful actually. *06:31* Um *06:33* Another another thing just to keep language at a minimum because it just makes my edit easier. *06:34* That's all. *06:40* Understandable. *06:40* So thank you so much. *06:41* Thank you. *06:43* This is an all-ages show. *06:44* I had a bleep logan in Fast and Furious episode. *06:45* This guy right now. *06:48* What did I say? *06:49* You uh quoted Dominic Toretto when he murdered um *06:50* That's a quote from the film. *06:55* What is that guy's name? *06:57* Johnny Tran? *06:59* No. *07:01* The guy the fourth movie. *07:02* The man who works with Fraga. *07:04* What does he say? *07:06* I can't remember. *07:07* That guy, right? *07:08* He's I sh he shows up in this one for a second. *07:09* Does he call him a b? *07:13* Is that what he does? *07:14* No, you remember. *07:16* I can't rem I genuinely can't remember. *07:18* I know he rams into him with a car and spat splats him and then he gets out of his car and he says a one-liner. *07:19* Well we shouldn't be watching these films. *07:30* And if you're censoring I'm not gonna if you're censoring direct quotes from the films we're watching. *07:31* Damn. *07:37* I guess I can't say Michelle Rodriguez's quote of like *07:38* Class, you thought you the mess. *07:40* Don't make me think you will be saying, I'll just bleep it out because that is a great line. *07:42* It's so good. *07:47* I think I wrote it down in my notes. *07:50* What's the F bomb they use in this movie? *07:53* I can't remember. *07:55* I know Roman says it and it's like when they're getting in the *07:55* It's when they're seeing like all the stuff at their disposal for the first time, like all the the stuff that Hobbs gives. *07:58* Oh, I don't even think he dropped he drops it. *08:04* It's Rome movie. *08:08* Oh, does he shoot when he shoots the snack machine? *08:10* That's a great scene. *08:14* Yeah, that's a great screen. *08:15* It's a great scene. *08:16* It's a great time. *08:17* It's on me. *08:18* Alright. *08:20* Oh there we go. *08:20* Uh you want to count us in Max and we'll talk about the colour. *08:21* Yeah, well 321 Clap proper. *08:24* Are you introducing or am I introducing Mario? *08:27* I'll introduce because I have taken the reins but *08:29* This point. *08:32* Hello everybody and welcome to Chapter Select, a seasonal podcast where we bounce back and forth *08:43* between a series exploring its evolution, design, and legacy. *08:49* For season four, we are covering the fast and furious. *08:52* My name is Max Roberts and I am joined, as always, by Logan Moore. *08:56* Hi Logan. *08:59* This is London, baby. *09:01* London Let's go, buddy. *09:03* Oh my gosh *09:06* Everyone's here now. *09:09* It's true. *09:10* Now everyone is here. *09:10* We thought everyone was here last time, but everyone is here now. *09:11* Actually actually that's not true because uh we lost some family members in this film. *09:14* But we can talk about that later. *09:19* Not everybody is here. *09:22* Do you This is not the Smash Ultimate of the Fast franchise. *09:23* Eva Mendez is also not here. *09:26* Do you believe in ghosts? *09:29* Uh I apparently I have to, because that's what this movie's all about, is ghost sort of in some way. *09:31* Ghosts who lost their memories. *09:39* Spooky. *09:41* Very confused ghosts. *09:43* So yeah, we're doing Fast and Furious 6 today. *09:45* in just a moment as our first guest of this fourth season of Chapter Select to talk a all about this film with us. *09:51* But *09:58* Per usual, Max, let's break down all the basics of the movie before we bring Mario in. *09:58* Fast and Furious 6, it launched on May 24th, 2013. *10:03* was once again directed by Justin Lynn. *10:08* Producers this time were also the same. *10:10* Neil H. *10:12* Moritz, Vin Diesel, and Clayton Townsend. *10:12* The writer was Chris Morgan. *10:15* Actors this time, the cast has grown *10:17* Quite a lot. *10:20* We've got Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Michelle Rodriguez is back, Jordana Brewster is here again, Tyrese Gibson, Chris Ludacris Bridges, Gal Godot. *10:20* Soong King, Dwayne Johnson, aka the Rock. *10:30* We've got Gina Carano joining the fray, and also Luke Evans *10:33* The composer this time around was Lucas Vidal, and the stunt coordinator was Greg Powell in a supervising role and Troy Robinson. *10:38* Uh the budget this time around. *10:47* This is an interesting budget. *10:48* Between 160 million and 260 million. *10:50* That's quite a range there. *10:53* Uh doesn't really matter when you get this kind of profit. *10:55* I'm gonna say I'm gonna say it's on the higher end of that personally. *10:58* Uh closer to two sixty after seeing this movie. *11:01* Uh the profit though, this is the most profitable movie in the Fast franchise that we have seen so far, to my knowledge, uh, because Fast Five was the previous highest, to my knowledge. *11:04* And this has outdone that. *11:14* Uh this movie brought in 700. *11:16* 788 million dollars, which is quite a lot to say the least. *11:18* Uh this movie, like Fast Five, was also *11:24* Very well received. *11:27* Uh critics on Rotted Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 71% overall, and audiences liked it just a little bit more there at 84%. *11:28* Uh so this is a another well-regarded film in the franchise, it seems like. *11:36* We're getting into the good ones, Max. *11:41* We've *11:43* We've suffered through the ones that would be considered bad. *11:44* Again, I don't think anything has been truly awful so far in this series. *11:46* Maybe Fast and Furious was not *11:50* Too good. *11:52* But I didn't like that. *11:53* Too fast was even fun, and that's the one people bash a lot. *11:56* So the fact that I enjoyed that one, and now we're getting to the ones that are deemed as actually good. *11:59* is uh definitely an encouraging note. *12:05* To talk about this movie a bit more deeply though, with our own thoughts on it, let's uh bring in our guests for this episode. *12:08* It's *12:14* our old podcasting chum Mario Rivera. *12:15* Mario, hi. *12:17* Thank you for joining us to talk about Fast and Furious 6. *12:18* I am very excited. *12:22* This is my favorite Fast and Furious film and to be talking with you two young boys. *12:23* It's very, very exciting. *12:27* It's good to be talking to you too. *12:30* I'm going to jump in off of something Mario said right there. *12:31* Um we're going to talk about our own histories and experiences and just general impressions on the movie. *12:34* Um, I'll start because I have out of all of them I have no history or m or uh I uh this is the one in the series I d straight up don't remember getting advertised at all and I don't remember anybody bringing it up to me. *12:39* So I have no touchstones for this movie. *12:51* However, I will say after having watched this, this is my favorite one. *12:53* This is my favorite one that we have watched so far. *12:57* I love this one. *13:00* Like I th like it was cool seeing everybody come together in Fast Five, but this just was able to kind of establish like, okay, everybody's already together, let's just jump right into the stupid plot and we can shove in more action scenes and go from there. *13:02* And that was *13:15* Yes, we'll get we'll get deeper into it, but this is this is my knee-jerk reaction is this is the best one that we've watched so far so far. *13:16* I really like this. *13:22* Uh *13:24* Max, what's your own history with this film? *13:25* Um I mean, I'm on the train, man. *13:28* We're in twenty thirteen, the year of *13:31* Gosh, what was 2013? *13:34* The Last of Us graduated out of five, graduating high school. *13:35* This was peak time, man. *13:38* This was you c after fast five, I was like, let's go, let's see where they go. *13:40* And *13:44* You watch the trailer for this movie and it's bonkers. *13:45* They show the plane, they show the tang. *13:47* You're just like, let's do this. *13:49* And I kinda I always described it *13:50* This is how I described it to friends and and later in tweets or whatever. *13:53* Like Fast Five is a great movie for people being introduced to the series. *13:58* You could *14:02* We talked about this on the last episode. *14:03* You could get through fast five and not having seen the other four and have a great time. *14:05* But fast six feels like *14:10* for fans, for members of the family, because it is all about getting Letty back and everyone's already together and quick and gosh, if you *14:12* Turn this movie into a drinking game with taking a shot every time they said the word family, you would die. *14:21* Uh it's just it's so, so much fun. *14:26* This movie is over the top in the best ways *14:30* Mario, were you into these movies when they were hitting theaters? *14:34* Like what was your own experience with I guess with the larger Fast and Furious franchise too you can kind of touch on since I know we'll only have you here for this one episode. *14:37* Yeah, actually Fast and Furious, the first one, uh, was actually a big touchstone for me because it was one of the first few DVDs that I've ever owned. *14:47* And so I would watch it on I watched it more than I've watched uh point break, which is uh really hilarious. *14:56* uh knowing the history of that. *15:05* But basically, yeah, Fast Furious has been around for a long time for me. *15:06* I even watched Fast Too Furious. *15:10* I wasn't a huge fan of that one specifically. *15:11* And that's where I kind of fell off for many years. *15:14* until people were saying like, oh fast, you know, fast five is really good. *15:16* And then that's when I went back and I basically watched I was like, wait a minute. *15:20* They c okay, that's pretty solid. *15:24* But then I remember specifically for this one, this is the first time I've actually gone into a theater. *15:25* to see and I actually went to a very a very this is kismic. *15:30* I actually went to the Logan Square Theater in a very small room and I was the only one in the room because it was just one of those like off the wall theaters you go to. *15:33* And I remember watching this movie, losing my mind at how m freaking fun and awesome it is. *15:42* And then the cherry on top is the post credits. *15:48* And so yeah, this this movie is just I I I picked this one specifically because this is when I realized the series went from being sort of like *15:51* weird street culture like crime film to like it's the Avengers in Fast Five to like no we're doing anime and we're doing not only doing anime it's it's the best anime where *15:59* They've turned into superheroes in the craziest way and it's the facade is dropped. *16:13* There's reality *16:19* has left the building. *16:21* And they comment on it too. *16:22* They comment commented on this movie and then later movies too. *16:24* And it's so genius. *16:27* So genius. *16:28* Oh my gosh, it's absolute insanity. *16:29* I think the reason why I like this one so much is because from the get-go it really feels like it knows what it is. *16:32* Uh like fast Fast and Furious was had some hiccups and *16:40* But there's a lot of downtime in the m that movie and it's pretty slow and the plot's not very good. *16:44* Fast five, it felt like, okay, we have this idea, we'll we'll incorporate everything we've done so far and uh but even that I I felt like *16:48* Like you and I talked about this with the the last episode, Max. *16:56* Like that movie has some slower parts uh with them just bringing everybody together, but it's fun to see those interactions for the first time between all the characters and stuff like that. *16:59* So it's much more *17:07* Focused on the characters interacting with one another and kind of uh what that new dynamic is for the larger group. *17:09* This one it just it knows what it wants to be. *17:15* It's like, okay, cool, we've got all these characters. *17:17* We're gonna launch them into a new plot line which involves Letty and it's just go. *17:19* Like from uh from ten minutes in, like you know what this movie is going to be, and they don't really *17:26* They don't waste much time. *17:32* Like the this movie is really going and there are action sequences very early on with the main cast of the movie. *17:34* Like there are so many different sequences in this movie. *17:41* Like *17:44* Fast 5, I feel like was really just I I feel like in all the fast movies we've watched so far, there's maybe some smaller action sequences or maybe some like some of the street racing scenes and that that are used as *17:45* Pseudo-action. *17:56* This movie has three or four different m major action scenes, whether it be the flip car riding through the city with Shaw getting away for the first time, then you've got the tank and the *17:57* plane obviously in caps the movie w the plane with the endless runway which we'll I'm sure talk about yes the runway will be discussed. *18:09* The runway magically does end. *18:17* You do see the end of the runway once that scene ends there. *18:18* It had like fifty feet left and then they were gonna run off the end of the runway. *18:22* This has also the best, I think, gun action, but also the best fit hand to hand combat. *18:26* Yes. *18:30* And I think a lot of that has to do with the people that are involved. *18:30* It *18:33* You think back, really the hand to hand stuff didn't truly start until Fast Five with The Rock. *18:34* Yes. *18:39* And in that movie it was pretty much just the one fight between *18:40* Vin Diesel and Dwayne. *18:45* And they were like, what if we just did that the whole movie? *18:47* Well what if we hired the guy from the raid and a famous MMA fighter and then have The Rock do some punches and then yeah. *18:51* Cool. *18:57* You know, one thing you mentioned, Logan, in in Fast Five, there was seeing these characters interact for the first time. *18:58* And I think in Fast Six what I noticed *19:03* was we do interesting pairings this time. *19:06* Characters that didn't interact in the previous ones or don't normally interact. *19:09* We've got Hobbes and Tej paired off for like a brief little mission to buy a bunch of cars, which *19:12* is pretty funny and it's good to see those two interact. *19:17* But Han and Roman get paired off and s uh Giselle and Riley and then Giselle and Letty are paired and and then Brian and Dama, of course. *19:19* But I thought there were some interesting pairings to see these characters *19:27* interact in new ways that we haven't seen them do it before, which keeps this movie fr feeling like it's uh retreading the same water of *19:31* you know all these people, here's how we pair everyone off normally. *19:40* Uh I it was good. *19:43* It was fun. *19:45* Yeah, I I agree. *19:46* They they would uh in Fast Five they obviously had the larger group dynamic and a lot of people were interacting with one another for the first time. *19:47* But we didn't get deeper or longer moments between some of the characters that you mentioned. *19:55* Like everybody was interacting and speaking with one another, but we didn't get, you know, scenes with Tez and Hav specifically doing that. *20:00* doing anything together. *20:06* And yeah, this movie really kind of gives those characters time to breathe and uh have scenes of their own together, which is nice. *20:07* And I assume that only continues in the later movies. *20:14* Um *20:17* Let's talk about the larger plot at play here and just how we feel about it. *20:19* Or do you have something you want to chime in with first, Max? *20:24* Go for it. *20:26* I do. *20:27* I want to *20:27* I think i I gotta talk about the beginning of the movie. *20:28* I'm being a little selfish here. *20:31* Um the start of this movie looks like it's the end of Fast Five with the same street race going on. *20:33* Um, but I very I sh it's literally the first thirty minutes of the movie. *20:38* They are actually racing off to like uh where Mia is giving birth to their son Jack. *20:42* And at the time we're recording this, I'm about five weeks away from having a kid of my own. *20:47* And I I have to s I could *20:53* I don't think I've been quite that emotional in a Fast and Furious movie, I guess, except for seven with with um Paul Walker's death, but Dom stops him. *20:57* Before the start, and it's like, you know, once you go through those doors, everything changes. *21:05* And I'm like getting ready to go through those doors myself. *21:08* And I was like, holy crap! *21:10* I kind of had a moment at the beginning of this movie. *21:12* Um *21:15* And it's just so good. *21:16* And I know it's done, you know, the joke of this movie is family, family, family. *21:18* Uh, but it it rain a bit on the nose, a little bit more true this time around. *21:21* So *21:26* I did have to call that out, that at least it good job, Justin Lynn, it works. *21:26* Was Abby watching this with you? *21:31* She did not want to watch it, so I watched it when she was actually out of the house one time. *21:33* Uh *21:37* And she was at work. *21:37* So I just watched it by myself. *21:38* But you just had a little moment to yourself and you're going to be able to do it. *21:39* I told her about it later. *21:42* I was like, Do you remember this? *21:43* Because I you know, you forget these things, you forget these tiny moments. *21:45* And it's like, oh *21:48* So I'm actually quite worried I'm gonna be demolished when we watch Furious 7. *21:50* I thought you were gonna say you're gonna try and recreate the scene and drive around. *21:55* The city of Florida. *21:59* I was gonna that's what I thought you were gonna say too. *22:00* Like I saw the opening and I realized when my child is when when my wife is going into childbirth, I want to have a street race to the hospital. *22:02* Yeah. *22:10* Yes, I'll hop in my Honda Civic and let it rip. *22:10* I will say though, the real real beginning of this movie is awesome because I just watched all of the Rocky movies and they all always begin with the montage of *22:14* Yes. *22:23* I was gonna bring this up. *22:23* It's so good. *22:24* I like they even show two fast clips. *22:25* Yes, they do. *22:28* Just to just show you how interconnected this world ends up becoming and then how it goes later too. *22:29* I will, however *22:34* I mean, unless I am wrong, they did not show anything from Tokyo Drift though, did they? *22:36* They do not because it's not happened yet. *22:39* So I watched um I've been watching the behind the scenes stuff like, you know, that's packed in with the *22:44* DVD Blu-ray or whatever. *22:49* And Justin Lynn talks about how they were building this, he used the word mythology of like Han, and they use Fast and Furious to like show Han and then five and six. *22:51* But he has this whole Han sub thread. *23:01* Justin Lin created Han in Better Luck Tomorrow. *23:04* And I think that's his favorite m-clearly his favorite character, and so he's like, I've got this mythology with Han. *23:07* And it obviously in the post credits it all leads to Tokyo Drift and it's just keeping that in line is great. *23:14* Yeah, I I I that didn't stick out to me until they reached the end of it of the title sequence. *23:22* I was like, oh wait, there's no I know all of these scenes, which means they didn't show anything from Tokyo Drift because I've not watched that one yet, which I mean again makes sense because *23:27* This is chronologically how it takes place, so there shouldn't be scenes from that. *23:36* But it is smart that they're doing that. *23:39* Let's get back to the broad story. *23:43* So obviously the movie starts with Brian and Mia having their kid, which really *23:45* serves as sort of the not the crux necessarily, but it is one of the key elements of this story, I think, and it things that start *23:50* are starting to be hinted at because I I mean, I've not seen Fast and Furious Seven, but I know how that movie ends and I know kind of how they write him out. *23:59* And one of the main things is that he's got a kid and he doesn't want to be going on these *24:08* Adventures anymore with Dom because it's too dangerous and he's got a family, a a real family of his own now. *24:13* And it works out. *24:20* Obviously, they didn't know that *24:21* Um Paul would would pass away during seven, but at least this was established in six. *24:23* That makes writing that that plot thread in seven work a lot better. *24:29* Because if it *24:34* If it came out of the blue, you you could tell it would be a bit more situational, but it's established early. *24:36* It's like we have to leave the old life behind. *24:43* What do we come back for? *24:46* We come back for family. *24:47* And that's the whole Letty thing. *24:48* It's definitely good to have that set up this early so that way not every other movie like that. *24:50* In alternate universe where Paul is still here, every movie is him going, you know, I said I was out, but you know what? *24:56* I'll be right back. *25:02* He's got Nathan Drake's disease. *25:05* Where he's like, I know, I gotta go do this car adventure one more time. *25:07* Yeah. *25:12* I I think it I think it is kind of fitting that they do lay that groundwork here and then and eventually, you know *25:12* They have to write him off with that in mind in seven. *25:19* I will say Mia though is pretty flippant about him being like, no, go out there, go on adventure, go have fun with Dom. *25:22* And I get that the whole reason. *25:29* Yeah, I get that the idea behind it o is, you know, oh, Letty's family. *25:31* We need to go get Letty. *25:35* She's part of the family. *25:36* Bring her back. *25:37* But it is sh for a lady who just had a child, she is very *25:38* flippant to go have her husband team up with a special forces agent and presumably chase down a band of thugs and get shot at and stuff like she's very just nonchalant about sending her *25:43* Telling her husband to run into that. *25:57* In a mission that they've never done before, by the way. *25:58* I love that they established that, yo, we gone from being these DVD players thieves to now *26:01* international crime stoppers. *26:06* This is the first time they've ever been like part of a force that is for the good guys or for, you know, the authorities. *26:07* So I find that hilarious. *26:13* Yeah, like they've gone from *26:14* thieves, uh ranging levels of thievery to we are a spy task force to take down an international terrorist *26:17* I think the I think the person who makes the craziest leap might be Tez, because he just starts off as like a dude in my *26:33* Yeah, dude in Miami who knows a lot about cars and has a garage and, you know, organizes street races and now he's like, Oh, I'm *26:39* I'm basically Bruce Wayne and I have all these tech gadgets and I'm operating the bat computer over here and look at this harpoon gun that I just modified. *26:46* It can take down a plane like with a NOS tank. *26:56* With a NOS tank. *26:59* I I don't know how that technology works exactly, but sure. *27:00* Uh yeah, he's gone total like Tony Stark in this film at this point, which is *27:03* Funny, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. *27:09* It only gets a lot easier. *27:12* I'm all I'm I mean I know I know they fly eventually. *27:14* They fly now. *27:17* Um *27:18* I guess so the the let's talk about let's let's talk about Shaw 'cause I feel like it's I feel like one of the reasons why I like this movie is because the villain is front and center the whole movie. *27:20* And not only that *27:32* But the way that this is pitched and they even talk about this in one of the scenes in Hobbes' little hideout he makes for him. *27:33* The villains are essentially like *27:39* Bizarro world family. *27:41* It's like it's like the family, but they're like it's it's it's yeah, it's it's like the bizarro versions of them. *27:43* Uh they are all the exact same, they all have foils to one another. *27:49* Like Justin Lanner, whoever wrote the script for this movie or came up with this idea to just have the villains be an anti-version of the family and have in each *27:54* go against versions of themselves was very, very smart. *28:03* And it makes for the best di best dynamic between the protagonists and the antagonists this time around. *28:07* Because previously it was just this *28:13* villain, this d this rich drug lord or CEO type dude or whatever. *28:15* I don't know. *28:21* Drug King pins, it seems like it's been a lot of times. *28:22* that they were going up against and no one ever cared about them. *28:25* This is like a more personal spout or spat because *28:27* These people are similar to the And the idea the idea to make Brian's Doppelganger Woman made me laugh. *28:33* Yes. *28:39* Yes. *28:39* Yes. *28:42* You know you're the prettiest blonde around here. *28:42* They do *28:44* It's really awesome to see this lineup and Roman's little bit there where he calls it all out is fun. *28:45* But I've watching this movie, you know, in the context of this season *28:52* I was like, wow, really? *28:57* Owen Shaw addresses all of Logan's complaints up to this point with the villains, because really in two, it's it's just cartoonish and really, really bad. *28:58* And then, you know, four and five, four is uh *29:06* This also makes for a better movie, and I will talk about it. *29:14* I have I have potentially differing opinions on *29:19* And then five, obviously with Rey as being a tamer version of the villain in two, but using uh Hobbs as kind of that the heel coming after them, nipping at the their heels. *29:23* Six is Owenshaw is there. *29:34* He is in the whole movie. *29:36* He's talking. *29:37* Not only do his actions show that he's skilled, capable, and a bad dude, um, even though they're just building like some nightshade terrorist device, but *29:38* his team of characters also kind of play a more prominent role. *29:48* While some of them don't really have names or you don't care about them, they're at least memorable to a certain degree. *29:52* Well they do have the they do have the smart scene with Roman where he's at least pointing out all the different members of the group and saying, here's how this one relate is like us, and oh they have a tech guy, and oh they have a Brian. *29:59* A person similar to Brian. *30:11* Yeah, so it's a it's a smart pairing and a good way to end off this little trilogy. *30:12* I will ha I do have to say, as a person who uh *30:18* who was watching this for the first time, I was very scared that they were going to do a similar thing that they did in Fast Four, which was have *30:22* Owenshaw not be the true villain and they were gonna go down the Braga route again where it's like, aha, I was the true villain all along because I clearly know *30:30* that Jason Statham is Shaw who gets introduced in a later movie because of duh Hobbs and Shaw. *30:39* So I'm sitting here and they're talking about Shaw the whole movie. *30:46* I'm like, okay, but I know Jason Statham is Shaw. *30:49* So are we gonna have like a reveal? *30:52* 75% of the way through this movie where he's like, no, I'm not the real Shaw. *30:54* This is the real Shaw. *30:58* And then Jason Sathan was gonna show up. *30:59* Like, I thought it was gonna be one of those if *31:01* antagonist swaps in the final thirty minutes of the movie or something like that. *31:04* And no, it I mean Jason Satham does show off. *31:08* It's his big brother. *31:10* Um and I as soon as that that scene happened between Dom and Owen later in the movie after Dom talks to *31:12* uh Letty and then they've got the snipers pointed at each other or whatever. *31:20* As soon as Owen mentions something about like my brother always said this, I was like, oh brother *31:23* Okay, that's gonna be Jason's. *31:28* There you go. *31:29* There's your tie-in right there. *31:30* So I yeah, the second he named your he mentioned his brother offhand, I was like, okay, so that's what it's going to be. *31:31* On the theme of villainy, I want to hear Mario's reasoning why this makes Fast Fast and Furious a better movie, and then I definitely need to get Logan's reaction to Braga's Return. *31:36* But I wanted to hear Mario first. *31:47* Ultimately, I think the fourth movie is not as good as a return for the characters. *31:50* Majority of the movie takes place in a CGI tunnel. *31:55* Um, which is not uh not not not good. *31:58* It it's good to have the characters back, at least it's a good introduction, and that ending is phenomenal. *32:01* I like the way that that m that movie ends. *32:06* But ultimately, uh, I think that retroactively involving the previous villain and having him come back and how he is the mastermind of this moment of like *32:07* Not in the mastermind, but working with the guy of the current movie to set up what happened to Letty and just adding more layers to how that can constantly, you know, be a part of it. *32:19* And that's what I enjoy about it. *32:29* That to me just makes it a more cohesive experience when I'm enjoying them all the way through. *32:32* And I think they consistently do this even later in the later movies that you'll eventually get to too of just uh little layers that they stylish and then they uh build upon from previous films. *32:35* Um, does it all always make sense? *32:46* No. *32:49* But at the same time, I did like this sort of like incursion that Paul Walker has to like, he feels his guilt. *32:50* um about Letty throughout the whole movie and for him to try and like literally almost sacrifice his freedom to try and get some more information out of it, I still find very well done. *32:56* Specifically when they have that discussion later. *33:05* But yeah. *33:08* Otherwise, that's why it makes it makes four a better movie because it cohes into six, which is the better movie. *33:09* Yes. *33:14* I love the Brian stuff. *33:15* I think his little emotional arc there, especially when he comes back and tells Dom *33:17* This was all my fault. *33:22* Tom's like that was for you to find out. *33:23* I thought that was a great moment. *33:24* And then later when he apologizes to Letty and she has the moment of knowing her character and her own identity and personality, I think that strengthens her and *33:26* you know, alleviates Brian from this guilt that he's been carrying for however many years. *33:36* I think that's great. *33:41* And then personally, I love that we break Stasiak's nose again. *33:42* Just *33:46* Chef kiss kind of moment, a great tiny little callback for just comedic relief. *33:47* But Logan, what did you think? *33:52* When your favorite villain Braga showed back up. *33:54* Uh so I mean I I will agree with Mario, it makes these movies feel more cohesive that he's involved again. *33:57* Um *34:04* To me though, I feel like Braga's inclusion was just like he kind of had to be involved because he was at the center of Letty's disappearance in the first place. *34:05* So it feels like he only really comes back in *34:15* Uh I I I guess his inclusion didn't feel like it needed to be done for any reason other to convey to the audience. *34:18* what happened to Letty. *34:27* Like the lot you as a viewer of the film are wondering like, well, what happened to Letty? *34:28* Why can't she remember everything? *34:32* Why is why is she shooting at Dom? *34:34* What exactly is going on? *34:36* And so I feel like they bring in Braga to *34:37* give those revelations to the audience, but the characters in the movie outside of Brian, no one ever really cares because even Brian, he goes *34:40* He yeah, he risks his freedom, goes back to the United States, talks to Braga, gets this information that they were been trying to figure out about *34:50* how Bragan is involved with this and what happened to Letty and things like that. *34:58* Then Brian gets back to the group and he's like, hey Dom, I found out what happened. *35:02* And Dom's like, cool, I don't care. *35:06* That was for you to figure out. *35:09* It's like, what why did he so he went on this dangerous mission to go get this information and then comes back and there's nothing he's like *35:10* He doesn't really care and he's like, Come on, Brad, we've already got other things to do now. *35:18* Like, Th there is that, but there is the other big piece which then is revealed basically in the last half where it's like *35:22* Shaw only will get close to you if he wants you to get close to you, and that was a big thing that I think that they needed so that way they can discover that they're doing the convoy thing. *35:29* Obviously, they don't know about the secret uh *35:37* s uh secret werewolf in the group that we reveal later. *35:40* But um I don't I don't want to refer to them by their name. *35:44* But uh ultimately uh *35:50* That to me is like at least the lead end of like why he goes on an adventure to get that piece of the puzzle so that way they could tell later in the movie. *35:53* But ultimately, I mean, yeah. *35:58* Uh for me, the cohesion was enough. *36:00* Yeah, I mean it was not such a I mean it was only like a ten minute aside in the movie and I did enjoy seeing Brian go going back and, you know, interacting with *36:03* Stasnyak again and I like that was a whole that was a fun dynamic. *36:12* I like I liked it I liked his little arc. *36:16* I I I liked I didn't I didn't hate it by any means, but it really just felt like Braga was *36:18* thrown in for no other reason than to just convey to the audience backstory of what it happened with Letty and not a whole lot else. *36:23* He didn't feel like he played a key plot in anything *36:31* else other than just saying, Oh yeah, and I also worked with Shaw which I feel like they could have figured out and it like from a r from a script writing perspective, I feel like they could have put those revelations in elsewhere in the movie. *36:35* You didn't need to ha had a whole *36:46* ten or fifteen minute sequence where Brian's going back to the US to do all of this. *36:48* Like they could have brought those things to light in other ways that would have been *36:52* It would have trimmed the movie's time down just a bit more, but again, it doesn't feel like it's so bloated that it ruins the movie or anything like that. *36:56* I just felt like it *37:03* seemed a little bit forced, if anything else. *37:04* Yeah. *37:06* But if anything, I'm just hap I'm just uh for this for this series and how it's established, uh, that there are true villains in the story. *37:07* Um and I feel Drag Bra Braga is one of those. *37:14* Same thing with Jran is also a true villain. *37:17* Because it goes out like a punk. *37:19* Yes. *37:21* I mean, while we're talking about the villains and all that stuff, I mean let's talk about what's her name, Riley in this movie. *37:22* Riley. *37:27* Yeah. *37:28* How do we feel about her turn and being a secret villain there at the end? *37:28* Is anybody else *37:33* It's corny. *37:35* It is kind of lame. *37:36* But it goes back to that uh doppelgainer group thing. *37:38* It's like we know Letty will come back to the side, so who is Letty's doppelgainer? *37:41* Oh, Riley. *37:45* Yeah. *37:46* It's like a it's like equalizer. *37:46* Uh it's the doing the switch I think is actually pretty pretty smart. *37:48* Especially if they have that fight earlier on, which *37:51* That fight, my God. *37:53* I was gonna say, yeah, from the perspective of those fights, because when you first see Riley and Letty fighting, you're rooting for Riley, but when they're fighting later, obviously you as the viewer are like, okay, now I want Letty to win this time. *37:55* Uh *38:06* So that's that's a fun switch since they have two different bouts in this movie. *38:07* Um I mean the best thing about Riley is that she probably has the coolest *38:13* death in the series so far, which is to just get harpooned out of a window. *38:17* And what's Letty say you chose the wrong side or something like that? *38:24* Yeah, you choose the wrong side. *38:27* I don't want to say it, but she says it. *38:29* And then harpoons her out a window. *38:33* So or out of a door way. *38:35* So that's probably the coolest death that has happened. *38:38* so far in this series. *38:41* Is there anything else like I I or I I actually I I do have one thing I want to talk about, uh which is Hobbes. *38:43* I feel like Hobbes is so much better in this *38:50* movie. *38:52* And that's not to say he was bet worse in the last movie, but we just know who he is now. *38:52* He's this established character, and he's now a friendly. *38:57* Uh I think he works better. *39:01* I think he I think his dynamic with the larger group works so much better now that he is an ally rather than the foe. *39:03* And that's not to say that I felt like he was a bad antagonist or foiled a Dominic Toretto in the last movie *39:09* But I like how he interacts with the larger group now that he is on their side. *39:15* Uh, but there is still that like sense of uneasiness, you know, like Teja's wanting to rob the cars and Havza's saying, well, no, we're not doing that. *39:20* Well *39:28* Hobbes assumes he's going to steal the cards. *39:29* Tej was gonna buy them the whole time. *39:32* He's like, I got this. *39:33* So it was actually Hobbes was judging a book by its cover there. *39:35* Bad Hobbes. *39:39* Perhaps bad. *39:39* I mean, I don't think of all the people in that scene that were judging books by the cover, I don't think Hobbes was the one this is true. *39:41* Primarily it was the salesman. *39:47* Yeah, I just think the rock is v vastly better in this movie. *39:50* Also, my favorite scene in this movie *39:53* Of it of the whole movie, and I'm sure this is something that is well known, but I caught it in real time, is when the Hobbs is in one scene, he has a goatee. *39:58* The next scene he's driving down the street, his face is totally shaved, completely shaved. *40:08* He has no facial hair *40:14* And then in the next scene he has his goatec and his facial hockey. *40:15* Yes. *40:20* There's a scene where he calls. *40:20* How do you how did none of you notice this? *40:22* And I looked this up online. *40:24* This is 1000% a thing. *40:25* There is a scene where he it must have been reshoots or something. *40:28* What? *40:34* Yeah. *40:34* He just he's driving down the street and then. *40:35* Oh my gosh! *40:37* Where'd he go? *40:39* That's incredible. *40:39* I w I mean because I know that in the first one in the last one, he has goatee, and then in this one I saw that he was clean shaven. *40:40* I was like, oh, this is clearly him on the good side. *40:46* Because everyone's pretty much clean shaven. *40:48* No, he's clean shaven in one scene alone in this movie. *40:50* And then in the following scene after, which takes place like 10 minutes later, after that scene, he has full facial hair again. *40:53* Yes. *40:59* That's incredible. *41:00* Max found the exact I it it was so apparent to me. *41:01* I don't see how you guys couldn't have noticed it. *41:04* Logan, I've been watching this movie for nearly a decade. *41:07* I've never noticed this. *41:09* I noticed it right away. *41:10* I noticed it right now. *41:12* Holy hell. *41:13* Yeah. *41:14* I totally forgot he had a facial hair. *41:16* That's incredible. *41:18* Oh my goodness. *41:19* Yeah, no, I totally *41:20* Totally missed it. *41:22* It's just that one scene. *41:23* It in that middle scene he's calling Tez on the phone to tell him something, and he's driving down the street with Riley, I think, and he has no facial hair. *41:24* I was like, wait, where did the rock did he shave? *41:32* Yeah, and I was like, okay, cool, I guess he's not gonna have facial hair the rest of the movie. *41:34* And then in the next scene he's in, he shows back up and he's got his goatee again. *41:38* So *41:42* Pretty good. *41:43* The thing I love about Hobbs this time around is he's in the family, right? *41:45* He's he's not this villain and *41:50* Well he's in the family, I think you're totally he's totally committed uh at the end of the movie where they're like, We're gonna let this critical device component go away because uh *41:53* We've uh 'cause Mia is kidnapped. *42:02* He's li when Hobbes pulls the gun on the general guy and lets them go, all because Mia has been kidnapped. *42:05* International security goes out the window for Mia for family. *42:11* But Hobbes is definitely like he is on their side 100%. *42:15* And I love I love that we just let it go because of that. *42:20* But *42:25* He's he's great, man. *42:25* I love the introduction to his character. *42:27* I love his introduction to the in this movie because he he's already at 11 and he's just never stops from there because *42:29* He goes into the interrogation room and just commits so many crimes and just beats that man to death. *42:36* It's like the it's like the Dark Knight interrogation sequence. *42:43* on crack basically. *42:46* Yes. *42:48* I'm so happy you said the Dark Knight, because that is one of my notes I wrote here. *42:49* I wrote this movie has Dark Knight levels of badass. *42:52* And by what I mean that is that when we go to the uh Shaw's like *42:55* Awesome reveal of him like slowly getting into his cockpit and then driving away and blowing up those buildings looks exactly how it looks like in the dark night. *43:00* Just so cool. *43:09* So cool. *43:10* Yeah. *43:11* This movie is *43:11* dope at times, like super dope at times. *43:13* Um that that flip car especially and the fact that they actually made that car and the wheels and everything *43:16* Yeah. *43:23* Pivot and turn. *43:23* That is a fully real functioning car that does all that stuff is nuts. *43:24* Like they they really went for it and it pays off on the screen. *43:28* Yeah, it's uh it's it it's such a a cool device that they use to like separate the cars to like how they have their cars. *43:34* Like they are always pretty low to the ground, but they have sort of like is like an is that like an F1 racer car that's like modded to look like that *43:41* It was designed after a Formula One car, yeah. *43:47* Yeah, because I noticed that. *43:50* I was just like very separate from like how they have their traditional streetcars. *43:51* And so for him to be able to just scoop them up and then toss them into the sky was just like *43:54* Absolutely genius. *43:59* I wish that we got more of that later in the series. *44:00* Um so I'm hoping that maybe, God forbid, maybe in the future. *44:03* Maybe they'll bring him back. *44:07* That car is awesome. *44:08* Let's run through some of the other character arcs in this movie. *44:09* Um I feel like that's just kind of the best way to tackle the rest of the plot and what happens in this movie because it very much is segmented with *44:12* A lot of people having their own things going on. *44:19* Roman and Tej have basically been assigned to just be comic relief at this point, and I'm a thousand percent fine with that. *44:21* Roman still has all the best lines in this movie. *44:26* Um *44:28* Yes. *44:33* Well I I I have to s I have to say something about this too. *44:34* Roman's I I wrote down Roman is living a lifestyle that reflects drastically th that r reflects drastically more money than he has. *44:37* At the end of the last movie they got a hundred million dollars. *44:45* but they split it eleven ways. *44:48* He has less than $10 million and this man has at the end of a fast five he's like, I bought one of the rarest cars in the world. *44:49* There's only three of them. *44:56* And now he has a private plane. *44:57* Those things cost way more than 10 million dollars *44:59* I don't know how he is flinging this money around. *45:01* Like ten million dollars, it's a lot of money. *45:04* It's not existed. *45:06* It's not that much money. *45:07* Don't forget about the yacht that they were going to. *45:09* They were going to a yacht as well. *45:11* Yes. *45:13* But you know what? *45:13* They act like they're billionaires when they really only made about nine to ten mil a pop in the last movie. *45:14* I'm like, okay, hold on. *45:20* We ha we're spending a little too much money here, Roman. *45:21* You're absolutely right. *45:24* Like Roman is living outlandishly, but they make jokes about it that totally reflect his character. *45:25* Like when he asked Tez to borrow change. *45:31* Or when he offers the women vouchers for the casino. *45:33* Like he clearly is still this kid who grew up from Barstow and is hustling to make his money. *45:37* but lives this lavish lifestyle and you get little jokes about how cheap he actually is even though he is a millionaire. *45:42* It's or um even when they're they planning out the heist and he's like, We're getting paid for this, right? *45:49* Like he's he is super funny and tight about his money. *45:54* Yes. *45:57* Uh I will say we I think we mentioned it before. *45:57* Uh but yeah, the scene where Hobbs also shoots the vending machine while Roman was trying to get food out of it. *46:00* It was the one scene in the movie that made me like audibly laugh out loud because it's just so out of nowhere. *46:06* Just and then there you go, food on the house or whatever he says. *46:11* Um *46:16* So they're great. *46:17* I don't know if you guys have anything else to say about Roman and Tej specifically, but Roman remains the probably the most fun character of the bunch. *46:18* He is the standing star in my opinion in Fast in Too Fast, Too Furious. *46:25* And so for him to come back and just be a continuously hilarious, no, he's he's fantastic. *46:29* Fantastic, I'm glad. *46:34* And then of course Ludacris just being uh just so d low like laid back in comparison in terms of his hype levels. *46:34* And but *46:42* Funnier. *46:43* So yeah, I I enjoy them quite a bit. *46:44* They play it off each other great. *46:46* Yes. *46:48* They also got rid of uh those two characters, Logan, the ones that we never remember that. *46:49* Literally the first thing I was about to say. *46:53* The next thing I was about to say *46:55* Is it they're like, wait, does anybody know what happened to them? *46:56* I don't know. *46:58* Last time we saw them, they were gambling. *46:58* And I was like, wait, that's literally the last scene that we saw then, too. *47:00* Mm-hmm. *47:04* So *47:05* Yeah, I mean that's smart on their part to write those guys out because I don't think they were very uh key factors of Fast Five, but it is funny that they kind of mention that *47:06* Because if they just straight up didn't show up, I think a lot of people would have been like, wait, are you guys forgetting some people that were in the last movie? *47:19* Who else here? *47:26* Uh *47:27* Giselle and Han, I wanted to touch on them uh because their arc in this movie I don't know, it it feels very one note in some ways. *47:28* Like they're just like, okay, we're a thing and we're *47:39* I don't know. *47:43* They're there it's like established that they're in love or they want to get married or both settle down somewhere, but y you don't really get those *47:44* vibes at any point. *47:52* Like I don't feel like they have great chemistry with one another. *47:53* Or maybe they just don't give them moments of great chemistry. *47:56* Because all of the all of their expressions of loving for each other are just like *47:59* Oh, we like each other a lot and we want to live to like it's all conveyed like via dialogue to the audience rather than actual natural chemistry. *48:03* between the two of them, which I found a bit odd. *48:13* I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that obviously w again, you're not we're not talking about the movies in chronological I'm sorry, in uh release order. *48:15* In release order we kind of know what happens in that movie and I'm not gonna say. *48:23* But they're building to that movie. *48:28* And I feel that they just don't have enough time, or at least the way that they're projecting like *48:30* where we know where characters are, especially how this movie ends, um, that we know that that person doesn't is not over there. *48:34* So for it to uh for them to be as like sort of *48:40* short with them. *48:44* I feel like they're just preparing you for the inevitable thing. *48:45* I do feel like they need to do a a a better job with it, but uh at the same time I think the little moments that we did get um with them just constantly talking about it, a lot of their story is *48:48* You're hot. *48:57* You're hot. *48:57* Uh let's go to Tokyo. *48:58* Maybe one day. *48:59* That's majority of their story. *49:00* Um but yeah, so that's us. *49:02* They're both cool characters. *49:04* They have like a swagger about them uh that's just *49:06* cool and easy and breezy and they they make a good pair in that sense. *49:10* But you I also have to think of the amount of couples or pairings in this movie. *49:14* you know, the the driving forces to get Letty back, which is Dom's girlfriend, and then and then Brian and Mia, and now we've got Han and Giselle. *49:20* And then there's like this weird tension *49:30* kind of alluded to with Shaw and stuff of like Shaw, I kinda like Eleti, but I don't know, but then he's secretly got his girlfriend who's the you know, the wolf in sheep's clothing over there. *49:33* So it's like there's a lot of relationship stuff going on in this movie and it *49:44* Han and Giselle, I think, get the least attention out of it. *49:48* And rightly so, because they're not the headlining couple in couples in these movies, so *49:51* Well, that does make Giselle's death that much less impactful, I think, by the end of the movie. *49:57* Um like I really did not *50:05* I think my problem with her death is that so far in this series we have seen people get way more injured and live through it. *50:07* Uh so when she just is like, I'm gonna fall off this car that's ten feet off the ground, if that *50:16* And land on the cement backwards. *50:22* It's going fast, don't get me wrong. *50:24* But we have seen Letty get blown up right next to a car, and we've seen *50:26* We see Vin Diesel get shot in this movie and he acts like it just tickled him. *50:31* Like we We did. *50:35* That does happen. *50:37* Uh like *50:38* Like like you guys said, where they're kind of getting to this point where they're establishing that all the main characters in these movies are borderline superheroes and just everything that they do doesn't really affect them. *50:40* So when a lady falls off of the back of a cart, yes, I'll it is going f it in reality, would it kill you? *50:50* Maybe, probably. *50:56* But the fact that everybody just immediately assumes that she's dead after she jumps off the back of the car and you never see her again after that, like She goes into the void. *50:58* I think that speaks more *51:10* To us the audience, like at this point we know. *51:12* It's like if Letty can come back, all this stuff, it's like, all right, we get it. *51:15* Like *51:19* I gotta see a body for it to be confirmed. *51:20* Looking further down the road, like I know at the post credit scene, Han gets blown up in this movie. *51:22* Further down the road though. *51:27* I know he's back as well. *51:28* So it's so looking at it now in way hindsight and knowing who comes back after they've been killed. *51:30* is like, oh mate. *51:37* So that also though, kind of like maybe Giselle Giselle shows back up and not and tenor. *51:39* I'll say it leaves a door open. *51:45* I have my theory of how it could, but you would have to watch Hobbs and Shaw and then we could talk about it afterwards. *51:48* But yes. *51:55* Yeah, I mean if we get Aquaman in Fast 10, I don't see why we can't have Wonder Woman in there too. *51:55* I can't wait. *52:00* This is the DC cinematic universe everybody's been waiting for. *52:01* Uh yeah, I I guess, yeah. *52:05* Her death was just weird, especially again. *52:06* Cause it I Han just immediately assumes that she's dead too, like at the end, like where's Giselle? *52:09* And he just starts crying. *52:14* Like there's not even any insistence like, oh, we gotta go find her or *52:16* She's back further on the runway. *52:20* Maybe she's okay. *52:22* He's just immediately like, no, she's dead. *52:22* No, she's dead. *52:25* I'm crying. *52:26* We established that this crew doesn't look for bodies when they bury them. *52:26* True, this is true. *52:30* Didn't bury Letty *52:31* They didn't bury yeah, they didn't bury Letty. *52:32* What happened to Vince in the last one? *52:35* I guess they did bury him, technically. *52:36* They did bury him. *52:37* Vince was on the table. *52:38* Jesse died in the front yard. *52:40* He died in the front yard. *52:42* Ape still there. *52:43* He's still there as far as I'm concerned. *52:44* That's why the weeds were growing over there. *52:45* It's just over Jesse's body. *52:47* I I will say I am I am excited to finally watch Tokyo Drift though, because we've been dropping these. *52:49* Tell the audience for three films now. *52:56* We've had Fast and Furious with him mentioning it, Fast Five he mentions it, and then this one mentions it too. *52:59* Logan, could you imagine me watching these movies in release order of like *53:04* Wow, they're really gonna keep teasing that, aren't they? *53:08* Like until we can actually get to it. *53:10* But also at the time, Han was dead. *53:13* It was like, I want Han, because Han is a fan favorite, clearly a Justin Lynn favorite. *53:16* It's like I want in these movies as much as possible. *53:21* So I was totally fine with him putting it off as long as possible. *53:23* But then also you get to the post-credit scene in this movie and you're like, *53:27* Oh my gosh. *53:31* I know. *53:32* This is insanity. *53:33* And then who does it? *53:34* Because you would that was not a thing, by the way. *53:35* No one knew Jason Statham was involved. *53:37* No. *53:39* Not whatsoever. *53:40* So when I watched the movie for the first time in that small theater, I like lost my d mind because I was like, there's no way. *53:41* Yeah, because you're also like, this movie has Vin Diesel, it has the rock. *53:47* And now we get Jason Statham in it? *53:51* Let's go. *53:54* And now look at the cast we have in these feature movies. *53:54* Jason Momoa, uh Brie Larson, Charlie's Therone, John Cena. *53:57* It's awesome, man. *54:02* Kurt Russell. *54:04* Yes, Kurt Russell. *54:05* Yeah, I'm excited to see Statham's debut in the next one, or I guess two movies down the hour watching these. *54:07* Let's talk about Dom and Letty because I feel like they are the obvious core of the film. *54:13* Uh this is what so much of the plot hinges on. *54:18* Here here was my hesitancy coming into this movie. *54:22* I mentioned you beforehand, Max. *54:24* I was like, I don't know how they're gonna put Letty back in this. *54:26* Is she mind controlled or something? *54:29* You're like, mind controlled? *54:30* What? *54:31* I wasn't too far off, I didn't feel like, because *54:32* Things are messed up with her things are messed up with her head. *54:36* I was I was gonna say she's not naturally just all of a sudden same letty from the previous movies who's like, I'm evil now, I will shoot Dom. *54:39* I I knew something had to be up with her and it was and *54:46* the great classic scriptwriting idea of amnesia. *54:50* Uh uh that's lovely. *54:54* Uh anyway, I I think my hesitancy with this movie was one, that her inclusion back would feel forced or weird. *54:56* are just very cumbersome and in some ways it does, I feel like. *55:04* But for the most part, I was surprised at how well this kind of works as a plot. *55:09* for th as the central plot for the movie. *55:14* Like i i it should be worse than it is. *55:16* I still have some problems with it, but I think for the most part, if your g if your plot of the movie is going to be this character that we said was dead two movies ago is now back. *55:19* Uh, here's how they fit into the plot of this movie. *55:29* I didn't think it was that bad. *55:31* Um, and not only that, but I think her and Dom have actually *55:33* good character moments and she as a character specifically kind of gets some good characterization for herself for the first time in this entire *55:38* series because up until this point she has literally just been I'm Dom's girlfriend and that's about it and she has the high sequence at the start of Fast 4 which is pretty cool with her *55:47* And other than that, she has very much just been second fiddled the Dom, and that's about it. *55:59* This is this is uh I think a clear character reset that they were able to accomplish with her as opposed to being, yeah, just a *56:03* You know, girl on the side where she appears in the first movie in a lot of ways, and then you only see her in four in that one sequence really, and then obviously *56:10* the plot that that movie's about. *56:18* But yeah, it's a whole character reset that they're able to give almost a new version of Letty um that they can then expand upon later that I thought was interesting because by the end of this movie she is still not the same person. *56:20* that she was and I was glad they did that. *56:31* I I was really I was hoping that they wouldn't do something dumb where she gets in another explosion and all of a sudden it's like now I have my memories back. *56:32* Oh I know who you are. *56:41* Hi Dom *56:43* Like I was hoping they wouldn't do that, and they don't. *56:44* They kind of like they handle this rekindling respectfully. *56:46* They don't just we know as the audience, Dom and Letty belong together. *56:51* Like that's just something we know. *56:55* But they handle bringing them back together, I think, in a respectful way that lets both characters make the decision for themselves. *56:56* Vin is never *57:02* really forceful about it. *57:04* It's like you are my girlfriend. *57:06* You're coming with us. *57:07* You're a part of this family. *57:08* They use street racing in the kind of the one street race scene of this movie as a way to kind of bring in it. *57:09* They keep bringing it back. *57:15* It's good. *57:16* They brought it back *57:17* So they use that to kind of spark these memories and and Letty has that line to Brian says I know one thing about myself is no one makes me do anything. *57:17* So it's these characters *57:25* kind of re-meeting and learning each other and not being like, you have to love us, you have to come with us. *57:27* Letty makes the decision for herself, even though we know the history there. *57:34* And I think that's *57:37* Pretty awesome because uh I think a lesser movie would have written it like you had mentioned, Logan. *57:39* Whoa, I've got my memory back. *57:44* I love you, Dom. *57:45* Let's make out in the the garage while working on a car. *57:46* Uh they they handle it gracefully. *57:49* Oh, I just want to say Max says like we know the history there. *57:52* We really don't. *57:55* Like that's that was always my biggest problem with Dom and Letty as characters is that it was just established in the first movie, like *57:56* Letty is Dom's girlfriend. *58:02* They've been together for a long time. *58:03* They she grew up down the street and they've known each other since they were kids. *58:04* That's what I meant about history though. *58:08* Oh, sure, yeah, but that was really the only context we we were given. *58:10* Just very broad details. *58:13* And then in Fast and Furious, she's written out very quickly. *58:15* And those are the only two movies she was in. *58:19* Don't forget the short film Los Bandaleros. *58:21* Yes, that's right. *58:24* Which they do kind of refer to There's a scene from it in the opening montage. *58:25* Yes. *58:30* Well, and not only that, but they talk about the scars that they had while swimming in Dominican Republic. *58:30* And I'm like, wait a minute. *58:35* That moot short film ends with them swimming in the ocean. *58:36* I wonder if that's what they're referring to. *58:39* Anyway. *58:41* But we really don't like the whole scene where he's like this happened to you th you got this scar from this time, this scar from this time. *58:42* Like they are like it's just little things like that, but they are kind of fleshing out that these characters have a deeper history and they have known each other for a long time, which again was *58:47* broadly established in the first film, but you don't really get any there's no meaningful moments between those two characters. *58:55* It is just *59:02* This is Letty. *59:03* This is Dom's girlfriend. *59:04* Oh yeah, she's also a street racer. *59:05* Watch her drag race this man. *59:07* Oh she won and she stole his money. *59:09* Ha ha ha ha. *59:11* Like that's that's basically her whole character arc in the first movie. *59:12* And then in the fourth movie she steals a thing and goes undercover and then she's written out. *59:17* So she has not had a whole lot. *59:21* of characterization in any of these movies. *59:23* And you you're right, Mario. *59:25* They it is a good soft character reset for her. *59:26* They're able to flesh her out in new ways while also *59:29* Expanding on some of the things they introduced before. *59:32* But yeah, they don't it's handled well. *59:35* I thought it I thought that this movie was going to be way worse than it was in that aspect. *59:37* And it's done *59:42* About as well as you can with a plot that it hinges on amnesia, which is so trite and cliched and overdone. *59:43* Like I I was honestly *59:54* Yeah, just genuinely surprised at how much a lot of this works. *59:56* I love these series. *01:00:01* You just said, yeah, the plot hinges on amnesia. *01:00:02* There are doppelgangers and then the sequel is about the evil brother. *01:00:04* I am so happy with this show. *01:00:07* Yeah, it's it's very *01:00:09* Yes, it's very straightforward, but the way in which they I don't know, I think it just a lot of it comes down to the characters and just the characters being so fun. *01:00:11* Um, I want to talk about the stunts, but I do want to come back to one thing that I mentioned before, and this is just maybe this is too in the weeds, too nitpicky, but you talked about before how they capture *01:00:19* Shaw and then he in turn captures Mia and then they have that whole sequence. *01:00:31* I wrote down though *01:00:36* Is that so they let him go with the thought that if they let him go, Mia will live or whatever. *01:00:38* But it's also established soon after that, well, he's not going to let her live. *01:00:44* He's going to tell his gang to kill her *01:00:48* But at the same time, I I just wrote down, Mia won't die unless Shaw calls his boys, but if they keep him in cuffs, then he'll also never make that call? *01:00:50* Like that was just such a weird *01:00:59* If you don't let me go, they'll kill Mia. *01:01:01* Okay, we'll let you go. *01:01:04* And then five seconds after letting him go, well now he's gonna call and tell his boys to kill Mia, so we gotta get him back. *01:01:05* I was like, wait, what? *01:01:11* You let him go, so he wouldn't kill her *01:01:12* But now you know that he is going to kill her, so you gotta chase him down. *01:01:15* Like that whole I I do like they do they establish that Tej immediately *01:01:18* cuts off the cellular. *01:01:24* Yes, he does. *01:01:25* He does. *01:01:25* Yeah. *01:01:26* Which was great. *01:01:26* But they established that the they don't know where she is. *01:01:27* So if they she's in a plane apparently it's very convenient that she's on the plane. *01:01:29* Yeah. *01:01:35* Which was that the same plane that they drove in on, by the way? *01:01:36* Because it looks exactly like the plane. *01:01:39* I'm not sure. *01:01:41* Yeah, they came. *01:01:42* Yeah. *01:01:43* Uh Riley. *01:01:48* Uh she uh I think actually caught them the same plane that they used they were arrive in uh during the convoy thing. *01:01:49* So I thought that was interesting *01:01:55* But yeah, I I I my thing with that is I assume it's because they don't know where she is, so the only way to get to her is by letting him go. *01:01:56* Um he escapes on the base too, which I thought was actually a smart thing to do too. *01:02:03* I don't know, I just seemed *01:02:07* Goofy to me. *01:02:08* I just wanted to bring that up. *01:02:09* Let's talk about the stunts though. *01:02:10* Let's talk about all the scenes in this movie. *01:02:11* I don't know if we want to go in chronological order with them. *01:02:13* I think we have to because they ramp. *01:02:16* So I think you gotta start with the smallest scale, which is with the ramp car. *01:02:20* With the yeah, with the ramp cars, which is great. *01:02:24* I like that everybody gets *01:02:27* uh thrown around and it and I like that everybody gets flippantly thrown around and it's just again looking at what happens to Giselle later in the movie, like, oh no, I fell off this runway, now I'm dead. *01:02:30* And this it's just like people *01:02:41* crash their cars into buildings and they're doing all kinds of flips and it's just like, oh don't worry, they're fine though. *01:02:43* They're totally good. *01:02:48* You have to be inside the car to survive. *01:02:49* Giselle was outside of the car. *01:02:51* Giselle was outside the car at least three times or three instances where they're like, Oh, almost died. *01:02:52* They do it three times. *01:02:58* And it's hilarious. *01:03:00* Um by the way, when we go through all these uh action scenes, I wrote down all the uh wrestling moves. *01:03:01* So there's one in this scene, which is incredible. *01:03:05* The rock body slams a moving car and gets catapulted into a spin and then proceeds to shoot at the bad guy. *01:03:08* Yes. *01:03:14* One of the coolest moves I've ever seen does in film. *01:03:14* Anytime says grab the wheel in this film, you know something cool is about to happen. *01:03:18* I like in this chase there are two particular things actually they both involve Brian that I love. *01:03:25* There is these electromagnetic bullet things that like *01:03:30* Make the car go haywire. *01:03:35* Total call back to too fast, too furious. *01:03:36* And Brian is the you would think, well, Roman's not surprising that he totally misses it, but Brian notices it, realizes as the cars are going, and does this awesome drift *01:03:39* Like just on the tip of the car, it busts it off. *01:03:48* So cool, so slick. *01:03:51* And then there's the Brian getting hit by the flip car and doing the slow-mo, oh no, which then *01:03:53* We use as a reversal at the end of the movie, and that's how Brian conquers his own doppelgainer by beating the flip car, which is a sweet, just a sweet turn back, boom. *01:04:02* It's great stuff. *01:04:12* Yeah, I I I I think Brian and The Rock have the two best moments in this. *01:04:14* Otherwise it's Vin doesn't get to do a whole lot or dumb *01:04:18* Uh he doesn't do a whole lot in this other than chase Letty and then get shot. *01:04:22* Yes. *01:04:26* Uh but I do like that the other guys wipe out. *01:04:27* I I like this too. *01:04:31* It establishes a reason for them to then, like we talked about before, to go get their own cars. *01:04:32* Like, oh well, we can't use these stock cars. *01:04:38* We've got to use cars that we can modify. *01:04:40* And which it then gives them a dumb reason to go get cool cars. *01:04:42* Cause in the cause in this first season they're just all driving stuff that Hobbes has given them pretty standard routine vehicles. *01:04:47* And then *01:04:54* They're like, no, we we can't we do that. *01:04:55* They'll shoot the little uh the the tracker things onto our cars, so we gotta go get cool sports cars now. *01:04:57* Cool muscle cars, which is so goofy. *01:05:05* Uh but I do I do love that. *01:05:07* Uh that's the first big action scene, I guess. *01:05:10* That we have the the race between Dom and Letty. *01:05:13* I don't know if that's really anything worth talking about. *01:05:16* We kinda t we kind of touched on it already. *01:05:19* Which I again I was not expecting. *01:05:24* I do gotta say, I love that *01:05:26* I love that it is just the funniest part about the street race scene is when they all of a sudden throw in the finish line, like, here's the finish line. *01:05:29* Oh, and Dom crosses it first. *01:05:36* And it's like *01:05:38* You two have been racing around all over the city. *01:05:38* How do you know? *01:05:40* How do you know where the finish line is? *01:05:41* What how is it established what the finish line is? *01:05:43* Like it's not just a quarter mile straight drag race like it is in the first movies where it's apparent *01:05:46* They're going around what it are they in London? *01:05:51* Is that where they're at? *01:05:53* They're in London, baby, of course. *01:05:54* Which of course is said by Taekhawaitities wife. *01:05:57* Uh is that that is? *01:06:00* Yeah, that uh what's her name again? *01:06:02* Uh Rita Ora. *01:06:04* Rita Ora. *01:06:05* It's like we get what we want. *01:06:06* After all, this is London, baby. *01:06:08* So good. *01:06:11* So good. *01:06:12* It's a line that sticks with you, which is *01:06:13* I wanted to open up the show by saying it, but I didn't want to do that. *01:06:17* I was just like, ah, too crazy. *01:06:20* My name is Max Robertson. *01:06:24* This is London, baby. *01:06:29* London. *01:06:31* Let's go, buddy. *01:06:33* Oh my gosh *01:06:35* Then we've got the tank scene, which I guess is the next big one, which is I think I do want to highlight though the subway fight only because Oh yes, yes, yeah. *01:06:39* The reason is because the actor Joe Talsum, who is uh the actor from the R Sub Zero and the Raid, uh, so he's a fantastic uh martial artist. *01:06:48* And for him to uh a drop kick Roman through glass while elbow dropping Han at the same time was sick. *01:06:58* Like it was one of the coolest shots *01:07:06* It's a great d there's a great kind of those two fights going on at the same time, Letty and Riley, and then Roman on against *01:07:08* Getting her kicked. *01:07:17* Yeah, it's so funny. *01:07:19* It's seeing that pairing of Roman and Han play out to comedic effect as well. *01:07:21* It's *01:07:25* And ac Han actually gets like a comedy kind of bit in this movie, more so than he usually does. *01:07:26* And the fight is so f like when they push each other toward him to and Han gets sweaty, man. *01:07:31* Han is a sweaty boy in that fight. *01:07:37* And then of course uh the great Roman line of like we don't have to tell no one has to know about this. *01:07:39* No one. *01:07:44* It's a great it's a fun fight. *01:07:45* The Riley and Letty fight I found to be *01:07:47* Very well choreographed. *01:07:50* It reminded me of something that you would see in like John Wick. *01:07:52* Especially, I mean with the stairs involved and stuff like that. *01:07:54* And the stairs only come into play later on. *01:07:56* But it reminded me of the *01:07:58* common versus John Wick scene in John Wick 2 where they're just all over the place, throwing each other into walls, throwing each other downstairs. *01:08:00* Like there's a little bit more that happens in that scene in John Wick. *01:08:07* I think it's the second one in which that happens. *01:08:10* Uh but it reminded me of that in a lot of ways. *01:08:13* My it's my favorite action it's my favorite uh stunt scene in the movie is them falling down the stairs. *01:08:16* Because it is you meet your heart sinks whenever that happens, and I enjoy that scene. *01:08:21* And they are really throwing the stunt the stunt doubles are throwing themselves down the stairs. *01:08:25* Not not the real. *01:08:29* Goofy choreograph stuff like the elbow drop and the the kick through the window at the same time. *01:08:39* Like that's just not feasible and is very silly. *01:08:45* The fight between Riley and Letty seems realistic and more brutal, and she puts her in an armbar. *01:08:49* They really tried to get they're like, oh *01:08:55* Gina Carano used to be a UFC fighter. *01:08:57* What move what moves can we have her do in this that there's something she would have done in the octagon like *01:08:59* Yeah. *01:09:05* Which is very apparent, but they do that with all of them. *01:09:05* Like the rock clothesline's a guy later in this movie as well. *01:09:07* Anyway, yes, that scene's very good. *01:09:12* Tank scene *01:09:15* I think this is my I think this is my favorite one. *01:09:17* It's so good. *01:09:19* It's so It's very straightforward in a lot of ways. *01:09:20* Also, we do have the classic moment that Max and I have mentioned throughout this season where *01:09:24* Villain has to amplify their evilness in a very goofy fashion, which in this time just involves Owen, haha, I'm gonna run over civilians with this tank! *01:09:28* Uh so we've now had we've now had the two fast villain making a rat eat a man. *01:09:37* We've had the fast and furious uh fast five guy punch a dude with *01:09:43* uh his desk object and now we have Owenshaw trying to establish his evilness by just running over people. *01:09:48* Okay. *01:09:55* Um outside of the hyped up villainy, this is *01:09:56* I think this one is I don't know. *01:10:01* There's more moving parts in the plane sequence, which ends the movie. *01:10:04* Like there's a lot more going on. *01:10:09* There's stuff going on outside the plane, on either wing. *01:10:10* Uh we've got stuff going on inside. *01:10:14* There's just a lot happening in that final scene, and I think that's great, and we'll talk about more that more in a second. *01:10:16* But I think the reason I like the take sequence so much is because it is just very straightforward of *01:10:21* There's a tank on the highway. *01:10:25* We're in sports cars. *01:10:28* What do we do? *01:10:30* And it just goes from there. *01:10:31* Uh and Roman has some great moments in this as well. *01:10:33* Like *01:10:37* uh with him nearly getting run over, which I don't understand how he didn't get run over a little bit sooner. *01:10:38* But this is this is the start. *01:10:43* I'm I hope yeah I'm glad you noticed that. *01:10:45* I want it's it continues a lore with *01:10:47* Roman that I very much appreciate. *01:10:49* Um so definitely keep enjoying that. *01:10:51* But yeah, this this scene this scene is like incredible. *01:10:54* The fact that it elevates of like *01:10:56* Alright, they have to find the this chip or something and they're in this convoy and then all of a sudden a tank is introduced by being busted out of a bigger truck and just totally goes ham. *01:10:57* I will say just attack uh to tap into the villainy stuff *01:11:08* It's a little over the top watching it this time around, uh knowing about but later history. *01:11:11* Um but otherwise uh it's still fun watch. *01:11:16* But yeah, the the the crescendo of uh the lady on top of the tank. *01:11:19* And Vindy's hole just getting out of a car and risking his life and just flinging in the air to get *01:11:26* catch each other. *01:11:33* I like he opens his car door and has like one foot out and one foot in and he's still driving with the steering wheel and it just it looks so goofy. *01:11:34* But it's it's amazing. *01:11:45* It's absolutely great. *01:11:47* The part about this tank scene and actually part of the airplane scene as well, we'll talk about it *01:11:48* This is a real stretch of highway that this this wherever they were filming let them use. *01:11:53* It was actually not open yet to the public, so they gotta destroy this brand new highway. *01:11:58* It's a real tank. *01:12:02* They're running over real cars, not real people, obviously. *01:12:03* Like where they could be practical, they were allowed to be practical. *01:12:06* Originally this was actually uh drawn out to be like Piccadilly uh *01:12:10* Um Sarka, I guess in the opening warfare. *01:12:15* Okay. *01:12:17* That's originally where they wanted the tank, but they realized all of the money would be going to CG in making this happen because they can't really film there. *01:12:18* So instead they put it on the highway and let it all be practical. *01:12:25* Obviously *01:12:28* not actually jumping out of the car to catch someone in the air and all the other stuff. *01:12:30* No, that was really Van Diesel. *01:12:33* That was really Van Diesel diving. *01:12:35* But I like that they use *01:12:37* It's all practical to a certain degree, and that lends itself to enhancing the scene there. *01:12:40* And the tank is just funny. *01:12:46* Tej saying, we got a tank, you know, like uh how do we react to this? *01:12:47* Brian's line of we do what we do best. *01:12:52* We improvise. *01:12:54* I like somebody said we need uh we need plan B and Tej is like no we need a whole new alphabet or C D E we need a whole new alphabet. *01:12:56* It's a it's so it's a very fun scene. *01:13:06* And I do like that the way that they take down the tank, it does feel improvised. *01:13:08* Like it feels like it just is like a spur-of-the-moment thing that happens that none of them were expecting. *01:13:12* Like no one is all of a sudden like, hey, we gotta *01:13:17* Get this tank weighed down and it's find a way to flip it. *01:13:21* Like it very much is just like, uh Roman almost got run over, but he had this winch and it tied around the thing and now it's dragging behind and maybe we can do something with that. *01:13:24* Like *01:13:33* It does feel like they are very much making it all up on the spot, even though obviously the set piece is scripted out and planned with how they're gonna shoot it and how it's gonna end and stuff like that. *01:13:33* But it does feel like a spur of the moment thing and *01:13:43* Brian's trying to ram the crushed car and get it to launch over the edge of the bridge. *01:13:46* And then they need the winch line to run out so it'll flip it. *01:13:52* Like yeah, and yeah. *01:13:55* There's there's *01:13:56* It's a very straightforward sequence in a lot of ways, but it's very fun uh overall. *01:13:58* And yeah, again, Vin doesn't I mean this is the problem, I guess, with this movie is that Dom doesn't have *01:14:03* the best moments. *01:14:09* Until I he I his moments are probably the best with uh plain, which we'll talk about here in one moment *01:14:10* Uh but yeah, in this scene and then in the aforementioned race scene with the flip cars earlier, he doesn't do a whole lot. *01:14:17* His scenes his focus is very much *01:14:23* We gotta get Letty. *01:14:25* I gotta get Letty. *01:14:26* I gotta save Letty. *01:14:27* And he has the cool fly through the air moment there, I guess, at the end. *01:14:28* But that's about it. *01:14:31* You know, uh y episodes of One Punch Man, you have to reserve them to that one punch, and that's what I think Ben Diesel is. *01:14:32* So you have to reserve him for the whole movie for the one time that Dominic Toretto is too powerful. *01:14:39* He could take down a tank immediately if he wanted to. *01:14:43* He's trying to keep his powers at bay just a little bit. *01:14:48* Uh all right, let's talk about the plane because it's obviously the main part of the film. *01:14:51* I think I don't know. *01:14:57* I I did I I like the safe scene a lot in the previous movie, Max, but I I gotta say, I do think both the tank scene and this plane sequence are better than the than the uh safe. *01:14:58* The safe is *01:15:09* The safe is goofier and it's more uh it comes across wild because that's real. *01:15:11* Yes. *01:15:16* Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. *01:15:16* The plane sequence is much more CG focused. *01:15:18* Actually. *01:15:22* I mean there are practical effects to it, but it is clearly their name. *01:15:22* Actually, the plan *01:15:27* The inside, the outside, they recreated the wings, they recreated the base with the wheels and stuff, and the inside of the plane. *01:15:29* All of that actually is practical. *01:15:36* Obviously the actual plane outside and blowing up and all the other stuff is CG *01:15:38* Yeah. *01:15:43* The most CG we've ever had in a set piece in Phase. *01:15:43* And an endless runway. *01:15:46* But I was an endless runway, which I I have statistics on. *01:15:47* We have stats. *01:15:50* But I was surprised. *01:15:51* To see that the wheels and those cars like running next to it and stuff was a practical element on a stage with green screen and stuff, but *01:15:53* I was all I was surprised there was more practicality to this plane than previously would have ever believed. *01:16:03* Um even driving through like the *01:16:09* Um driving through the nose of it was practical and stuff. *01:16:11* It's crazy. *01:16:15* Even the CG elements of this though don't look overly CG to the point that they are like *01:16:16* Like the it's uncanny valley that it's really taken you out of it or whatever. *01:16:21* The only parts that look truly odd is when Giselle dies and she's yes, like falling back into the void. *01:16:25* It's like what the heck? *01:16:31* Uh, which I guess is how you would look if you were falling back like that, but it still looks goofy. *01:16:33* When Owen gets thrown out of the plane, and then when Gina Carano's character Riley gets harpooned out of the plane, those all look goofy *01:16:37* Uh but again those just all involve ragdoll bodies of people getting flung all over the place. *01:16:45* The plane and the cars and all that stuff, that actually looks good uh throughout the whole movie. *01:16:51* or this whole sequence. *01:16:56* What are your stats? *01:16:57* I know you're holding them up. *01:16:58* Fun yeah, fun runway facts. *01:16:59* World's shortest runway is uh zero point two four six miles. *01:17:01* It's in the Caribbean. *01:17:05* The longest runway in the world *01:17:06* is 3. *01:17:08* 41 miles, that's in China. *01:17:09* The uh based off the time on film and the speed of this plane, which is 150 miles per hour, and it's on the runway for just under half an hour *01:17:12* Uh the length of this runway would be twenty-eight point seven five miles. *01:17:20* Oh it's so good. *01:17:26* But don't worry, they stop it right before they get to the end of the runway. *01:17:28* That was really the cherry on top. *01:17:32* I was I was like, oh, now they're at the end. *01:17:34* Uh *01:17:39* I don't know. *01:17:40* Like I said, there is so many moving parts to this, whether it be them trying to get the harpoons on the back of the plane on the wing to pull it down. *01:17:41* You've got *01:17:51* the inside fight sequences which I'm sure Mario has some wrestling moves that he can I do have some wrestling moves in here, yes. *01:17:52* We'll go to you with that in a second. *01:17:59* I I mean there's just a lot of things. *01:18:00* I I guess which parts stood out to you guys the most and which elements *01:18:01* Worth the best in your opinion. *01:18:06* I'll I'll go first real quick. *01:18:08* I I personally enjoy the inside more than the outside stuff. *01:18:10* I think I'm really *01:18:13* Yes. *01:18:14* Primarily because the outside all really is is just darkness, um, for a lot of it. *01:18:14* There are some cool elements to it of how the cars are being freewillingly like *01:18:18* being lifted up by the wings. *01:18:22* Um I think that's cool. *01:18:23* Um but ultimately I think that the inside is the more more fun stuff, right? *01:18:25* Because you have *01:18:29* uh matchups, you have people running around and of course uh causing havoc within that place. *01:18:30* I always prefer when some things get smashed versus like the the sort of elements with the cars. *01:18:35* But yeah, I I I think that uh uh having the different moves being put played, which was pretty awesome for the fact that, yeah, Brian gets choke slammed at one point and it's incredible. *01:18:40* Uh, but not to be *01:18:52* Outstated by the headbutt by Van Diesel. *01:18:54* The headbutt is incredible. *01:18:57* One of the goofiest things I've ever seen on television, and it's so fing fantastic. *01:18:59* I think it's *01:19:04* It's what you're talking about, Mario. *01:19:05* You gotta save Vin Diesel for the one moment. *01:19:06* You gotta save for the one moment. *01:19:09* Is a moment. *01:19:11* Man *01:19:13* Hours before, jumped out and caught a woman in the sky. *01:19:15* Lanton slammed on a thing. *01:19:18* He uses his head as a bullet. *01:19:20* And then my uh obviously my sh the shout-out that I'm gonna give *01:19:22* is the rock, I believe, does a Superman punch on Shaw and it's awesome. *01:19:25* Yeah. *01:19:30* And oh no, it was it him or it was probably him or the Rock on that show. *01:19:30* Shaw usually does the Superman punch *01:19:33* I thought the rock did the clothesline. *01:19:34* Like if the colour was a little bit more than the colour. *01:19:36* He does the lifting clothesline, yeah, which was pretty incredible. *01:19:38* So I want to say it's uh it's probably uh Vin Diesel did the Superman punch on Shaw. *01:19:41* Okay. *01:19:45* The reason the reason why I think the stuff inside the plane is more compelling too is because that's where all the main characters are. *01:19:46* That's where Hobbs is, that's where Dom is, that's where Brian is for a bit, and that's where Mia is, who's who they're trying to save here. *01:19:51* And then you've got, you know, sh Shaw's in there as well. *01:19:57* You've got Riley who just betrayed them, so there's that tension because of that. *01:20:00* Like all the tension is inside the plane. *01:20:03* Like all the big characters and all of the *01:20:05* uh compelling plot lines that have happened between these characters are taking place within the plane. *01:20:08* That's where the chip is to which they're still after, so they can get their pardons. *01:20:13* So everything exciting and intense is happening in the plane. *01:20:17* And then you've got smaller things happening outside. *01:20:20* But uh I I wrote down I I guess the b my biggest takeaway from this was yes all the fighting was cool and yes all the the I wrote in all caps Dom Toretto headbutt. *01:20:22* That was by far the coolest thing that happened *01:20:33* Other than that though, at the end of the scene, after it was all said and done, I just wrote, It's too bad Vin and The Rock hate each other because they have excellent chemistry in this sequence. *01:20:36* And they they really they really they play off of each other really well. *01:20:48* And I don't know if they hated each other when this movie was being done. *01:20:52* Or what the whole backstory of their beef is. *01:20:56* Maybe we can talk about this as we get a little bit further into the case. *01:20:58* But they have incredible chemistry in this, not just with their *01:21:05* fighting and uh taking down enemies together as one unit, but their one liners that they're throwing at each other, it's a dialogue. *01:21:09* It's all so great. *01:21:15* And there is this real feeling of camaraderie between the two of them. *01:21:16* And this for the first time is the first time that I feel like *01:21:20* you really feel like Hobbes and Dom are bros. *01:21:24* Like this is this is the moment where you're like, yeah, they've come a long way. *01:21:27* The cop and the criminal but now they're *01:21:31* Now they're family. *01:21:33* Th this was the first instance where I really felt like they had come together as a unit. *01:21:35* And that just made me that much sad that oh man, they're not gonna *01:21:40* Eventually they have a falling out in real life. *01:21:44* Too bad. *01:21:46* You want it you want to believe it's like a wrestling work and that it's just he's gonna show up later, but we don't know. *01:21:47* I really it's *01:21:53* It's like one of the things I really hope they can pull off for Eleven, which is allegedly the last movie. *01:21:54* Obviously it will never end. *01:21:59* Hobbes and Shaw two is already in like pre-production, you know, all this stuff. *01:22:01* But if they can make peace somehow *01:22:05* for the eleventh movie uh like please do so because it they've gotta they gotta come back. *01:22:08* It's cause this the dynamic is so good and seeing it in later movies is even better. *01:22:13* I don't know man. *01:22:19* If Justin if Justin Lynn is tapping out *01:22:20* Something's going on. *01:22:23* Scary thing. *01:22:25* Something's happening with Ten for sure. *01:22:26* We'll talk about that in the future. *01:22:27* But yes, the Rock and Vin have great moments in this. *01:22:29* I I do I I also have to the final the final moment of this *01:22:32* Which I found so funny is that the rock or not the rock, uh Dom does have the great moment of him blasting out of the front of the plane. *01:22:36* But then that is immediately followed by his car wiping out. *01:22:44* And then them fake killing him for a second. *01:22:49* I was like, wait a minute, what? *01:22:51* Like I I feel like it would have almost been better if they would have had *01:22:53* the plane just crash outright and they're like, no, Dom and then rather him walk out of the fire Terminator style with the briefcase with the briefcase. *01:22:57* If he then would have just blasted out of the front of it with the car after it had all blown up *01:23:06* That would have almost been cooler. *01:23:10* Instead you get the moment of him blasting out of the plane only direct three sec seconds later. *01:23:12* It was so *01:23:18* It's very goofy in a lot of ways because that moment was awesome, but it just doesn't last long. *01:23:19* And then it's like, oh no, no crap, is he dead again? *01:23:24* He's not dead, but *01:23:28* I love the only damage that's done him though is that his shirt is dirty. *01:23:29* Everything else he's totally fine. *01:23:32* He should be melting. *01:23:35* He should be melting to be in that fire ball. *01:23:36* Well we've already established that bullets have no effect on him, so. *01:23:38* That is true. *01:23:42* Oh no, I I don't know. *01:23:43* All the action scenes in this are great. *01:23:44* I I they just keep ramping it up. *01:23:46* I'm just wait to see where we go. *01:23:48* Just wait. *01:23:51* Oh my gosh. *01:23:52* Oh man. *01:23:53* I guess final things. *01:23:54* I I don't know if there's much to say about how this movie ends. *01:23:56* I mean we've talked about the final credits stuff already with Jason Stateham. *01:23:58* They obviously go back, they get their pardons, they go back home. *01:24:01* Same house. *01:24:05* Same house. *01:24:06* 1327, baby. *01:24:07* Corona makes a return in this film as well. *01:24:08* They got the Corona partnership or license back in this film for the first time ever. *01:24:11* I did like that they had some closure between Dom and Elena. *01:24:16* I felt like they weren't going to for a moment there. *01:24:19* I was like, are they really just gonna end in *01:24:22* It's just gonna be as simple as oh I'm back with Letty because my girlfriend's alive and I didn't know she was. *01:24:25* They did have the moment with them and even Elena just kind of giving her blessing like yeah he's a good guy *01:24:31* of co I and even her saying earlier in the film too, like if that was my husband, like yeah, I would do the same thing. *01:24:36* Like so you're she doesn't fault him at all and like *01:24:42* It was just good that they included that because I felt like that was going to be an omission in the before the credits rolled, and it was not. *01:24:45* So that's good. *01:24:51* Yeah *01:24:52* And and again keeps establishing those characters. *01:24:53* Um as a character that was in the last one entering in this one. *01:24:55* It's kinda awesome. *01:24:58* And having her d partner back up with uh Hobbs again is good because it was really the only reason she was written out is because she *01:25:00* Started dating a criminal, so you assumed that she couldn't be Hobbes' partner anymore if she was going to be with Dom, but now that *01:25:07* Riley has proven to be working with the bad guys. *01:25:15* Uh Hobbs needs somebody that he can trust on his side again, so she goes back to him and uh it it all works out. *01:25:18* It feels it ends in a nice, neat fashion. *01:25:24* And then we get one more moment between Dom and Hobbes there at the end. *01:25:28* And yeah, I don't know. *01:25:32* Good good ending. *01:25:33* And then you gotta say the prayer about fast cars or whatever. *01:25:35* That's right. *01:25:38* Thank you for fast cars. *01:25:39* In a uh an homage to the first film. *01:25:42* Yeah. *01:25:44* Very much so. *01:25:45* Wh whenever whenever they got g do these little uh these cookouts, it's just it's a good time. *01:25:46* It's just a good time. *01:25:51* It's it's the most family of the family things that they get to do *01:25:51* And so yeah, definitely appreciate it to have the house back. *01:25:54* That house, uh in my opinion, is a national landmark. *01:25:57* They need to make sure that it goes. *01:26:00* Yeah, it needs to be preserved in its uh janky state forever. *01:26:02* Yeah. *01:26:05* The Elmstream house and this one. *01:26:06* in California. *01:26:07* We've talked about a lot of the stunts and such naturally as we always do, so I don't think there's much else to touch on that. *01:26:09* Same with the me uh editing. *01:26:15* Is there anything we wanted to say about the music this time around? *01:26:17* I have to say that I this movie had a lot more electronic music uh to it than some of the past films, and I thought that worked very well. *01:26:21* I actually like the soundtrack of this movie for the first time since probably *01:26:29* Too fast. *01:26:34* I feel like Fast and Furious and Fast Five were pretty bland and forgettable, but there were some tracks that I felt like really accented the action and the chase sequences quite well this time around. *01:26:34* Uh I don't know if any of you had anything to say about that. *01:26:46* I mean the the montage and ending song is my favorite. *01:26:49* Um we've entered the Wiz Khalifa era of Fast Imperius. *01:26:52* The whiskey fair. *01:26:57* It just the way that it just permeates and like tells the story with um with the montage, it just feels awesome. *01:26:58* And what the way it ends, it feels great. *01:27:04* So when I get into the the credits, it's perfect. *01:27:07* Perfect. *01:27:09* But in terms of like the intermediate music like in between the car stuff, like I I actually think it works pretty well. *01:27:09* I did like that with the dip back into um when they go to the drag racing, and it feels very much like the drag racing that we've seen before. *01:27:14* Um definitely a nice little touch. *01:27:22* Yeah. *01:27:24* I that my only comment is the Wiz Khalifa era. *01:27:25* We're gonna see this going back. *01:27:28* I can't wait. *01:27:29* When you uh when you watch Tokyo Drift and you see the regression of music. *01:27:30* Regression? *01:27:34* I say progression because Tokyo Drift soundtrack is fire, man. *01:27:35* Let's go. *01:27:39* Okay. *01:27:41* Best car. *01:27:42* Best car in the film. *01:27:44* This is a very simple one for me. *01:27:45* Hmm. *01:27:48* Do you want me to go first then in that case? *01:27:49* Go ahead. *01:27:51* Go ahead. *01:27:51* It is *01:27:52* Dom's 1969 red Dodge Charger with the huge spoiler. *01:27:54* The Daytona. *01:27:59* Yeah. *01:27:59* Yeah, the Daytona. *01:28:00* That is the cover art of this episode. *01:28:00* It is excellent. *01:28:02* I love that car. *01:28:04* I like I mean Dom's always driving chargers, so it's not I it might be a little bland to pick a charger in this one, but this is the my favorite of any of them that he's driven so far. *01:28:05* And part and that's partially because of *01:28:15* the color. *01:28:17* I am a sucker for red sports or muscle cars, but that combined with the big fin on the back and then the front body of the car, uh *01:28:18* the like how the uh how the lights are set up and how it yeah narrows down. *01:28:27* It just looks so cool. *01:28:31* And it's too bad that he wrecks it to jump out of it to go save Letty. *01:28:33* There's a reason this was the most expensive Hot Wheel I purchased. *01:28:37* It is a very nice car. *01:28:40* It's also one of my favorites. *01:28:42* The other car that I would even consider is Letty's uh Jensen Interceptor. *01:28:44* Yes, that's mine. *01:28:49* That's mine. *01:28:50* The back I love the way that the car basically all sits in the back and then the the front is just ah it's a dope car. *01:28:51* I love the the front of it because uh very much uh reminiscent of one of my favorite movie cars of all time, uh Eleanor from God and Six. *01:28:57* Okay. *01:29:05* Which by the way, how have they not connected those universes? *01:29:08* I don't know how, because that would be incredible. *01:29:11* If they just show Nick Cade shows up and he's the same Wilson Rains from the first one, it would be so great. *01:29:14* So great. *01:29:20* Yeah, those are my two. *01:29:20* All right, the Jen's and Interceptor and the Dodge. *01:29:21* You gotta choose one Daytona. *01:29:24* I gotta choose one. *01:29:25* I would have to choose the Daytona because I chose it for the cover art. *01:29:27* I mean it is it's iconic. *01:29:31* The spoiler, the color, the shape, everything. *01:29:34* It's *01:29:38* It's fantastic. *01:29:39* I yeah, usually we've gr you and I have gravitated towards Brian's cars in these movies. *01:29:40* I love his Ford Escort in this movie. *01:29:46* I I love the blue and I love just the tightness of the body. *01:29:48* I think it's great. *01:29:52* Um it's light and airy. *01:29:52* It it's a fun car. *01:29:54* But it *01:29:56* You can't beat the Daytona. *01:29:56* The other one that I liked a lot, and I do not know what it was. *01:29:59* I was looking for it here. *01:30:02* Roman's uh *01:30:03* Like cream or white car that he's driving in the tank sequence, the one that they end up using as the anchor to wreck the tank. *01:30:05* I thought that was a really cool one too, but I am not certain what that was based on the list I'm looking at. *01:30:12* here. *01:30:19* Okay. *01:30:20* Legacy is our last topic here. *01:30:21* I think that this is a weird *01:30:24* one to talk about legacy because it feels like this is very much just the first movie after this becomes a global smash hit franchise and we're just gonna keep getting action movies in this style. *01:30:27* So I don't know what really *01:30:38* stands out about this movie. *01:30:41* I mean it's it legacy plot wise within the larger context of the series, I guess, is just this was the one where they bring Letty back, but it also kind of opens a can of worms for *01:30:42* Larger things that happen after I I don't know, this one's harder for me to speak to because I don't know where they go from here. *01:30:52* I mean at face value this is very much just oh Letty's back now. *01:30:57* But I I I assume there are larger *01:31:01* touchstones later on that I'll kind of learn about retroactively. *01:31:04* I'll say I mean w it it's revealed in here obviously that the Shaw uh brothers, as I'll refer to them, are continuous characters that are involved in the history of *01:31:09* the series, even if we didn't know it, which I thought was cool. *01:31:18* Like the the big reveal of uh him being um Han's murderer um is only revealed in this one, right? *01:31:21* We as someone who sees the you know the previous movies. *01:31:27* So yeah, I think that part of the legacy is kind of cool and then how he then leads to be the bad guy in seven. *01:31:30* So I think there are definitely elements with the the the shady background of all these movies is how all connected and how different things are with these bad guys. *01:31:35* And uh how that proceeds forward for how you'll discover him. *01:31:45* Yeah. *01:31:48* I those are the two elements. *01:31:48* Is Letty is back, the family is truly whole at this point. *01:31:50* And *01:31:54* Yeah, the Shaw brothers are introduced uh, if only by name for for Deckard until the very, very end. *01:31:55* So those two things. *01:32:01* It also is the one that brings us to Tokyo Drift. *01:32:02* As someone, you know, as someone who's watching these movies from the beginning, you're like, where is Tokyo Drift fit in all this? *01:32:05* We have met, we've gotten to that point, um, not only in the season, but in the franchise. *01:32:11* And so that's kind of where it is. *01:32:16* And also, I forget exactly which ones Justin Lynn *01:32:19* Does all the way. *01:32:24* I think I don't think he does seven, if I remember correctly. *01:32:25* Yes. *01:32:33* That is correct. *01:32:33* It does. *01:32:38* He actually so what Justin Lynn, this his trilogy of four, five, and six, he comes back and does nine and then um *01:32:39* He wasn't. *01:32:47* Philip's X for a week and left. *01:32:48* Yeah. *01:32:51* Oh, I'm wrong. *01:32:51* Yeah. *01:32:53* So this is the end of the Justin Lynn trilogy, who I mean he also did Tokyo Drift. *01:32:54* But Justin Lynn is this *01:32:59* The savior of Fast and Furious. *01:33:01* He is what has m turned it into the movies they are today. *01:33:03* It's all because of him. *01:33:06* And *01:33:08* I I think he goes, not that this is his last one, like he's done with it forever, but he wraps this core package up great. *01:33:08* We build to this moment with Letty, and it it's *01:33:17* He nails the landing here and he has built the multi-billion dollar foundation that this becomes. *01:33:21* So major props to Justin. *01:33:30* He brought it back to life in all in a huge way. *01:33:33* I mean going back to saving from being the movies that you remember Logan of just even Toge Drift eventually at one point was gonna be a uh you know, I don't want to spoil too much, but it was supposed to be a directed DVD movie *01:33:35* if I'm not mistaken. *01:33:47* Um but then just brought it back to life with Ven Diesel. *01:33:48* And I think that'll wrap it up for Fast and Fury Six. *01:33:52* Or as the title card said, just *01:33:55* Furious Six. *01:33:56* Yeah, that was a very weird discrepancy, and I actually meant to bring that up. *01:33:57* Uh final note on that. *01:34:00* What is the real title of this film? *01:34:02* It's Fast and Furious Six, but at the time *01:34:04* Like they just called it Furious Six. *01:34:07* But the next one is Furious Seven, right? *01:34:09* It is correct. *01:34:12* That is Furious Seven is the name. *01:34:13* It's it's odd. *01:34:15* But that'll do it for our discussion on this show for this particular movie. *01:34:16* If you would like to find out more, you can head over to chapterselect. *01:34:21* com or follow the show on 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Chapter Select and check out previous seasons at chapterselect. *01:35:16* com. *01:35:21* Cool. *01:35:23* Great episode, guys. *01:35:24* Do you want me to keep rolling for our intro? *01:35:25* I assume we'll do here in a second. *01:35:27* Or do you want to do that as a separate thing? *01:35:29* We'll do that as a separate file. *01:35:32* We can keep rolling for a bit for just discussion purposes, but yeah, that was *01:35:33* Good stuff. *01:35:39* I like that. *01:35:40* Quick question. *01:35:41* Yeah, it was fun. *01:35:41* Thank you so much for inviting me. *01:35:42* Thank you, Mario. *01:35:43* Yeah, thank you. *01:35:44* No, I'm I'm excited to see your journey throughout the fast series. *01:35:46* Um did either of you watch the extended version or the just watch read? *01:35:50* I did too. *01:35:55* What's the difference? *01:35:56* I watched theatrical. *01:35:56* There is none. *01:35:58* So I I looked it up because I was that's what uh the link I posted in. *01:35:58* I thought that's what it was *01:36:02* Yeah, so I was like, hey, is there many differences? *01:36:03* And I looked, it's really just extended material. *01:36:06* It's the same scene, just a little bit extended. *01:36:09* So shoe more punches. *01:36:12* Or uh like Brian, I think, punches a dude in the pawn shop. *01:36:14* And it wasn't in the original engine. *01:36:18* So stuff like that. *01:36:20* Nothing too majorly. *01:36:21* But I honestly when I was watching it, couldn't tell you the difference. *01:36:22* Could not even tell you what was different. *01:36:25* It's not much. *01:36:26* Um *01:36:27* In Fast Five, the extended edition is actually more violent. *01:36:28* Like there's blood splatters and stuff. *01:36:31* But this one just is slightly longer seams. *01:36:34* Um *01:36:38* And some of the fights are I guess a bit more brutal. *01:36:38* What is it like Maybe that's why I missed some of the stuff? *01:36:42* When you guys mentioned a Superman punch, I don't remember that, honestly. *01:36:45* Oh yeah, there's a Superman punch. *01:36:48* I do not remember seeing that unless I miss *01:36:50* Miss something. *01:36:52* Um Letty knee someone shawnee punch claus *01:36:54* Yeah. *01:37:00* Oh gosh. *01:37:01* Hobbs elbows Klaus. *01:37:02* That was an extended scene. *01:37:04* Yeah, so it's just a couple of extra things. *01:37:05* It's not a a ton *01:37:07* Um I was worried for a hot second I was gonna have to buy the regular version Logan because I had to for Fast Five for our commentary. *01:37:09* But then I realized we're not watching the same, we're not watching at the same time. *01:37:17* So Yeah. *01:37:21* I gotta say I I I was glad to watch this one on my own too. *01:37:22* I don't know why. *01:37:26* I feel like I have to have my brain turned on in a different *01:37:26* capacity. *01:37:30* Yeah, no, I'm just hating on it. *01:37:31* Those were the only two common Mario, we did a commentary on too fast and we did one on Fast Five. *01:37:35* Oh boy. *01:37:40* Those were the ones I wanted to capture Logan's first time watching. *01:37:41* So we have those commentary tracks kind of in like the the vault. *01:37:45* And the yeah, so but yeah, yeah, we're fine. *01:37:49* I also didn't mention this on the show, but this was the one I was not really wanting to watch this one. *01:37:52* Because one, I didn't know much about it. *01:37:59* Two, the plot coming in, I was like, oh, Letty, uh, okay, whatever. *01:38:02* And then like within the first 10 minutes I was like, all right, baby, let's go. *01:38:07* Like I was like so like I was like this was one of those ones where it yeah, I was not wanting to watch it. *01:38:11* And then as soon as it started, I was like, okay, never *01:38:16* Nevermind, I want to watch this film now. *01:38:18* You are you're in for a trip, man. *01:38:22* A real trip. *01:38:24* We're in the back half now, right? *01:38:26* Yeah, you are. *01:38:28* Yeah, I've left from from here on in, it's a it's a crazy show going forward. *01:38:28* So we're over halfway *01:38:36* We're flying, dude. *01:38:38* That was the plan for this season was to like really crush it. *01:38:39* I think we'll be done with seven at least before the kid is here. *01:38:42* And that was my goal. *01:38:46* Really? *01:38:48* Cause then it's just eight, nine, and Hobbs and Shaw. *01:38:48* And those are breezy man. *01:38:52* It's good stuff. *01:38:55* No, for sure. *01:38:58* Um I would I mean, I wish I could see Logan's reaction to the final scene of Fast Seven, 'cause I do think it's a moment in time. *01:38:59* Um *01:39:06* For sure. *01:39:07* So Paul Walker Paul Walker stuff. *01:39:08* Yeah. *01:39:13* Yeah. *01:39:13* I was going to say because I'm sure there's a final stinger at the end of that one where they *01:39:13* There's not a post credit to that one, is there? *01:39:19* I don't think there are post credits from now. *01:39:22* Yeah, no more post-credits. *01:39:24* Okay. *01:39:26* So you're you're good. *01:39:26* It's yeah, seven will be interesting. *01:39:28* Just *01:39:31* 'Cause it's so yeah, it's sucky with the whole Paul thing. *01:39:32* But they do it well, they handle it well, I think. *01:39:38* So we'll we'll obviously talk about all that. *01:39:40* Yeah. *01:39:43* Oh heavy, heavy, heavy *01:39:44*