# Chapter Select, [[S4E7 - Furious 7]] Transcript This transcription was completed on March 4, 2026 with the application MacWhisper on macOS. This was done automatically, without human input during the transcription process. The transcription used the Parakeet v3 model. My hope is that by offering this transcription – however accurate it may be done by a machine learning/AI – will help you, the listener. I’d love to offer full, proper transcription some day, but that is not feasible at this time. Thank you for listening and reading. I hope you enjoy the show and that this document was helpful. Enjoy. --- Oh look at you. *00:00* You got a haircut. *00:02* You did the thing. *00:04* You shaved the sides of your head. *00:05* Yes. *00:08* Look at this man, he's presentable. *00:09* Yeah, I don't look like I'm homeless anymore. *00:12* Oh my gosh. *00:15* You did that before the wedding? *00:17* No, I did this like yesterday *00:20* The wedding I couldn't get in. *00:22* And so I went to the man and I was like, what should I do? *00:25* And he's like, I would do this. *00:27* And I was like, okay. *00:28* What what do you mean you couldn't get in? *00:30* Yeah, you have a barber wedding or to the barber? *00:31* To the barber. *00:34* Went to like four places. *00:36* One of them was closed. *00:37* All the others were booked. *00:39* One place was set was booked in for like four days. *00:41* Okay. *00:43* Okay. *00:44* Well I guess I'll just book for five days out from now then. *00:44* What? *00:48* I don't think I've gone to get my haircut *00:49* Since I was like nineteen six fifteen years. *00:52* Yeah, just shave it off, yeah. *00:58* Pro strip. *01:00* It must be so freeing. *01:01* I will say it's been pretty nice to have less hair. *01:04* Like my whole hair feels like like the back of my head's like very shaved down now. *01:07* Yeah, yeah, yeah. *01:11* It's just like everything's cool. *01:12* I can feel the breeze on my head. *01:14* I'm like, I kind of *01:15* If I wasn't balding, I would just let it grow and not care about it. *01:17* But fortunately. *01:20* It's happening. *01:23* Uh if you look at pictures of me from the back or near the top, it's bad. *01:24* I I need to just enter hat phase of life is what I need. *01:30* I need to just become a hat man. *01:36* Um was I gonna ask *01:38* Thank you, Max. *01:40* Oh, you said something earlier. *01:41* I figured we'd just talk about this now before we start. *01:43* Uh something about doing our Resident Evil 1 thing? *01:46* What were you talking about? *01:49* Remember we had the idea to stream Resident Evil One on PS1, like we did with Banjo Kazooie and Grunty. *01:51* I think so. *02:00* Maybe. *02:01* I mean there is a possibility if we didn't do Resident Evil Seven or um *02:01* What was your other idea? *02:08* Uh fast and Furious 8. *02:09* If we didn't do those, we could also do that. *02:11* I think we can do one of those others, though, this weekend if you want. *02:13* I don't know, we'll figure it out later, I guess. *02:17* Ricky, you're doing you're a Resident Evil man with us as well, right? *02:20* I think I'm doing two. *02:25* He's doing two. *02:26* If I remember. *02:27* Outside of our non jun uh wait, no that's not true. *02:31* We're gonna do zero. *02:34* And then two. *02:35* So we've now bagged one and seven. *02:36* I'm like an hour away from the two. *02:39* Zero is next, but we're gonna skip ahead and do four because we're *02:41* Also, he's not responded to me yet. *02:45* So I'm gonna have to poke him again, by the way. *02:47* I figured he hadn't. *02:49* If I figured since you'd sent a message, you would have told me. *02:50* We have Dustin Furman doing Resident Evil 4 with us. *02:53* I'm surprised you could find someone for such a bad game. *02:59* Oh, Ricky. *03:02* Good. *03:04* We align. *03:04* The game isn't bad at all. *03:08* I would beg to differ. *03:11* It's not a bad game, but it's not a good Resident Evil game. *03:15* It's a good thing. *03:18* I don't think it's like one of the greatest games ever made in history forever. *03:25* No, I certainly I definitely think there are structural problems that are outside that are not related to VR. *03:29* missions of the president's daughter. *03:38* There's not really real original thought, Max. *03:40* There's not escort there's not escort missions. *03:43* I have not had to put her in a dumpster. *03:50* I understand that's something you have to do in the base game. *03:52* The only good President's Daughter rescue mission is uh My Date with the President's Daughter, starring Will Fridel from uh *03:55* Boy Mr. *04:03* Richard. *04:05* That's a great film. *04:05* Cinema, some may say. *04:07* Maybe we should a Disney Channel season. *04:09* It's like the top just our favorite Disney Channel films. *04:12* Alright, we gotta throw in Eddie's million dollar cook-off. *04:15* That's gotta be in there. *04:18* What's the one I'm I'm drawing a blank on it? *04:20* The one where they roller skate. *04:22* Brink *04:25* Brink. *04:26* Yes. *04:26* Never watched that one. *04:27* What? *04:28* Oh, Brink is iconic. *04:29* That's where I learned the the Nunya joke. *04:30* Where you say, you know, like uh, you know, what is that? *04:34* Nanya. *04:37* What's nanya? *04:37* Nunya business. *04:38* Learned it from Brink. *04:39* Isn't there what's the uh surfing one? *04:42* Johnny Tsunami? *04:43* Uh Johnny *04:45* Uh what is his name? *04:46* Yeah, maybe it is tsunami. *04:48* Because then it's Johnny Capahala back on board where he's surfboard or he's snowboarding. *04:49* Oh yeah. *04:55* I think yeah. *04:56* Wendy Woo Homecoming Warrior? *04:58* No. *05:01* Zina Girl movie I wasn't on *05:03* So pumped. *05:06* Never watched those. *05:07* I never watched any of the other one. *05:09* I never watched any of the ones with the girls because I was like, ooh, the girls gross. *05:11* Gross. *05:15* Because I was eight. *05:15* I was karate when Wendy Woo came out. *05:18* And like I remember we left karate class and I told our sensei, I was like, we're going home, we're watching Wendy Woo. *05:22* And he looked at me like I was insane. *05:28* I think that was when I started aging out of that stuff around when that one came out. *05:33* And then that's when I started watching like G4 a lot. *05:37* I was really high school musical too was a seminal moment in my youth. *05:43* Yeah, Max, you yeah, I was definitely aged out by that. *05:47* point. *05:50* Oh yeah. *05:51* 2006 was high school musical. *05:51* Max is a twelve yard brag into his sensei. *05:53* I was a junior in high school. *05:57* Look at that. *06:00* You're the target audience. *06:01* What was the uh smart house, smart home? *06:04* Smart guy oh yeah, smart house. *06:07* Some good stuff, man. *06:10* Classic. *06:11* That'd be kind of funny if we wouldn't be *06:12* Halloween Town, that's a good one. *06:16* Yeah, uh oh wow, what is it? *06:19* Is Halloween town the one sisters? *06:22* No, that's Hocus Pocus. *06:25* Hocus Pocus. *06:27* Because that has a sequel out probably like in a week. *06:28* Halloween Town 2, the return of Caleb Bar or something like that. *06:31* Halloween Town. *06:37* Where they all turn to uh monsters. *06:38* Spicy. *06:42* Calabar's Revenge. *06:43* That's what it is. *06:44* Have you seen Halloween Town High, which is really bad. *06:46* Yeah. *06:49* Have you seen Don't Look Under the Bed? *06:49* Mm-mm. *06:52* I don't think so. *06:52* No. *06:53* That one uh gave me such bad nightmares I started sleeping in our living room downstairs. *06:54* Because I couldn't handle being upstairs hearing the wind like scraping against the wall 'cause it sounded like the nails of the boogeyman climbing my wall to come kill me. *07:00* Oh my gosh, the art is like Freddie Krueger-esque. *07:09* Yeah, it's it's scary. *07:12* It is a Disney Channel original movie, October 9th, 1999. *07:14* Francis Bacon McClausend. *07:18* Is that the kid Bacon? *07:21* Is that Kevin Bacon's kid? *07:23* I don't know. *07:25* Is that the main actor? *07:26* No, that's the character's name. *07:28* He's played by Aaron Chambers. *07:30* An intelligent, level-headed girl. *07:33* Yeah. *07:36* Is starting high school a year early. *07:36* Strange things have been going on in her town of Middleburg. *07:38* That's what I'm saying, man. *07:43* That's like Freddie Kruger fingers right there. *07:45* Well I said I'm saying what the heck because uh I Google Halloween Town and I find out the girl who played the main character in that movie married one of her co-stars from that movie. *07:47* Oh. *07:58* That's kind of odd. *07:59* How is it odd? *08:01* Love. *08:03* How's that odd? *08:04* Are we not? *08:05* I mean I guess that's where it's how Ryan Reynolds got married. *08:10* Green Lantern. *08:14* Is that how Ryan Reynolds got married? *08:16* A lot older though, right? *08:18* Um *08:19* I want to say Brie Larson, it's not that. *08:21* Blake Lively. *08:23* Blake. *08:24* Yeah. *08:24* Yeah, I imagine so. *08:25* She was in that movie. *08:26* Get this. *08:27* I have it *08:28* I'm watching Cobra Kai the other day. *08:28* Character pops up and she's like, Oh, I knew Daniel. *08:30* I'm like, hmm, you seem like you were the c uh Karate Kid 3 chick. *08:34* But I don't know what she looks, you know, th years have passed. *08:38* Hillary Swank *08:41* No, she's the next Karate Kid. *08:43* Oh, okay. *08:45* Yes. *08:46* No, no. *08:46* What? *08:47* This um the girl in Karate Kid 3, the one Daniel's like chasing in that one, is Blake Lively's sister. *08:48* Oh really? *08:57* Yeah, let me pull up her name. *08:58* But she shows up in the Robin Lively, spelled with a Y. *08:59* Uh she shows up in Cobra Kai, and that is uh Blake Lively's older sister *09:04* Hmm. *09:10* I think it's old. *09:11* Yeah, she's fifty. *09:12* Blake Lively is definitely younger than her. *09:13* But yeah. *09:16* Basically, if they get Hillary Swank and uh Michael Ironside, Cobra Kai will be complete. *09:18* That's all I'm saying. *09:24* And um *09:26* Jaden Smith. *09:28* And Jackie Chan. *09:30* Yeah. *09:33* And Will Smith. *09:34* I don't think he showed up in that movie, but he definitely paid for it. *09:36* He paid for it. *09:41* Well you think that's how Hollywood works? *09:42* He was a producer executive producer on it. *09:45* I don't think that he paid for it. *09:47* Then he paid a lot of money for that movie. *09:50* I mean then made a lot of money. *09:52* Producers put money in and then get a lot of money out. *09:54* No no no. *09:59* Producers make the whole thing them *10:00* themselves. *10:02* By cra hand. *10:03* Alright. *10:06* Uh let me do the very annoying thing where I peat real quick and then we'll go as soon as I get back. *10:07* Sounds good. *10:13* Sorry. *10:13* You're again. *10:14* Alright, Ricky. *10:17* Yeah. *10:19* I don't think he knows that Dom has a kid in the next movie. *10:19* And so I'm very excited to see what his reaction will be. *10:23* Yeah, I gotta make sure and like compartmentalize Yes. *10:28* It's gonna be because I was watching this movie and I every time you see her, which isn't a lot, but every time I saw Elena, I'm like, you're pregnant right now. *10:32* You don't look pregnant at all. *10:41* Especially considering the time gap between things. *10:44* Like she should be uh visibly pregnant. *10:47* Yeah. *10:50* Instead she's running around chasing bad guys. *10:51* So it leads me to suspect *10:53* Maybe they banged after seeing each other, Hobbes in the hospital. *10:55* Him and Letty may have been on a break, you know, because she ran off to find herself. *11:00* Yeah, maybe. *11:05* It's the only it's the only logical timing. *11:06* Oh man *11:10* This movie's so good. *11:14* It's incredible. *11:16* It's incredible. *11:18* Some of these notes I don't know what they mean because I wrote them a week ago. *11:19* I mean I watched it again today. *11:22* I did see you *11:24* Your dedication is great. *11:28* But this just says this scene is so sick. *11:30* Geez. *11:32* I don't know what that's about. *11:33* Why didn't I write what it was about? *11:35* I usually do I have it semi-contextualized. *11:37* I've learned I tried taking notes as I watch them, but I realized I wasn't paying attention to the movie as much. *11:40* So then I've developed I'd either pause *11:47* Write what I needed to say and then unpause, which isn't efficient, but it works. *11:50* Or I just write it afterward. *11:56* Um but sometimes you just gotta pause and write notes because *11:58* Yeah. *12:03* While you watch the movie you did this? *12:04* Yeah, I've been developing my watch movie take notes strategy. *12:07* Sometimes I don't take any *12:12* Notes and other times I take a lot. *12:15* Like I don't think I've ever taken a note during or like writing a review while I'm playing. *12:17* I used to when I first started and then I've stopped ever since. *12:22* Yeah. *12:26* I take notes. *12:26* But I also write shorter review re *12:27* I just go on vibes now. *12:29* I just do bullets. *12:32* I'm like, eh, this, that. *12:33* I'm not, you know, level ten forty minutes in it took this, you know, the graphics dropped. *12:35* Um one question for Ricky and then we'll get going. *12:45* Um, did you finish Lost Judgment? *12:52* Yeah. *12:55* I still haven't done that. *12:56* I think I'm gonna go back to it and fix it up. *12:57* So I went back and I finished Kawami two, which was something I had gotten like halfway into and I stopped. *13:04* So I did that, so I'm like, okay good, but I have like lost judgment lingering over me 'cause I'm *13:10* I never finished it. *13:15* So I wanna do that and then we'll we'll s I might I don't know man. *13:16* I got an itch to do like a dragon. *13:22* I might just jump to that one. *13:24* Oh yeah, that's and then go back and start doing the Kyriu games *13:25* more. *13:29* I mean if you're going to be able to do that. *13:29* If I get Lost Judgment done, I'll be happy because I'll be like, cool, I've played both judgment games now. *13:30* File that away. *13:35* And that's one section of things that is done. *13:35* But I think you can probably skip a lot of the Kiryu stuff if you want to. *13:38* I've done one and two. *13:43* I want to do zero next. *13:45* Zero's the Kiryu games. *13:46* And then I want to do like a dragon. *13:49* And then finish Lost Judgment. *13:51* And 336 I can get to. *13:53* Yeah, I don't know what it is about me and the number three, but much like Tokyo Drift, three is my favorite Yakuza game. *13:56* And I don't think that's very common. *14:01* I think that's the one everybody hates. *14:03* Yeah. *14:05* Everybody clowns on at least. *14:06* But four and five are bad. *14:08* I just learned about a Yakuza game at work the other day. *14:10* New coworker. *14:13* He was talking about *14:15* his f one of his first Japanese game or whatever was the one that they're bringing over now. *14:17* Uh what is it called? *14:21* Uh like a dragon like a dragon each. *14:22* Yeah. *14:25* So he was talking about that and then he went on a tangent about a zombie yakuza dead souls. *14:26* Yeah, and I looked it up. *14:33* It looks hilarious. *14:34* Yeah. *14:35* Totally looks like a cash grab kind of fad *14:36* game from that era that you wouldn't see these days. *14:39* Yeah, and the zombie game era. *14:42* That's the only one that has not come less now, right? *14:45* Ishan was the one. *14:48* Oh yeah, that one. *14:50* Yeah. *14:52* Yeah. *14:53* It was it was Dead Souls, which everybody knew would just straight up would never come west. *14:53* Probably. *15:00* And then there was Eachan. *15:01* And then there's the other one other *15:02* But I d I didn't even know that existed. *15:05* Yeah, I obviously people don't talk about it. *15:07* It's *15:11* The thing that sucks is I I think the one I think of all the ones they announced, the one that looks coolest to me is the one that's gonna be *15:13* Like they're not just straight up doing, oh hey, Kyu's back and he's an eight. *15:20* They're like, no, we're gonna have a whole game between six and eight that explains how he shows up in eight. *15:23* Like a dragon guiden. *15:28* Like that's crazy to me that they're doing that. *15:30* But to play that I want to play, you know. *15:34* All the main line. *15:38* Yeah, zero through six. *15:39* Okay. *15:42* So zero, six, one to seven, all the same. *15:43* Yeah, we'll see. *15:47* Anyway, I might go back to Lost Judgment. *15:48* I'll play those games someday. *15:50* No, you won't. *15:53* I would like to. *15:55* You just need to make it a like a dragon then. *15:56* At this point. *16:00* No, because Mike always talks about how good the story is, and you know me. *16:01* I feel like that's a game I could *16:05* When I'm done with the side stuff and I've just wanna finish, I feel like then you can just push *16:08* I don't think you don't have to do all the side stuff to progress, right? *16:16* The problem is the side stuff is fun. *16:19* Well I know it's fun, but when when I'm done and I'm ready to do *16:22* the story, then I can just know but that that's easier said than done because I think the same thing. *16:25* I'm like, oh I'll just p get through these and play this play the main story just so I can play through all of them and see them. *16:30* all through and then I get distracted by, oh there's a diaper man running around the town or like any of the crazy side story stuff. *16:36* And I'm I am like, oh this is so fun. *16:43* I love this. *16:45* And if that's fun then all of a sudden it's been fifty hours and I'm like oh no *16:46* This game has taken up two months of my time now. *16:50* But I'll me I I'm entering the age of my life where I won't be on the cutting edge, so *16:54* Eventually I'll have to dig out. *17:01* I'll be hunting down cheap copies of Yakuza. *17:02* You should get it on Game Pass. *17:06* Game Pass is bad. *17:08* It's Game Pass. *17:10* You can get it on uh premium. *17:11* PlayStation Premium bad. *17:14* Oh. *17:16* I don't have either of them. *17:17* My Game Pass just expired. *17:18* Even though PlayStation's clearly trying to phase him out from doing that. *17:24* Everyone's trying to both are trying to phase you out. *17:28* If the reports Nintendo's trying to phase you out. *17:30* Yes, they should. *17:35* Everyone's You don't need this. *17:36* This man keeps a closet full of that closet back into the Rite of Max is filled with boxes. *17:37* of i of it's empty collector's edition boxes that he uses to throw away. *17:43* They're not all empty. *17:48* In old console boxes. *17:49* They retain value and they make moving tremendously easy. *17:51* No. *17:56* I move it. *17:57* No, everything's in odd shapes and sizes and it doesn't fit and sliding around. *18:02* Mm-mm. *18:08* Boxes always. *18:10* This is your his justification for keeping them. *18:12* Alright. *18:15* I keep them because I want them. *18:15* I don't need justification. *18:18* I keep them because I want them, but there are reasons behind it. *18:19* You're gonna get rid of 'em one day, and it's gonna be funny. *18:25* Your voice gonna be like we have three children max. *18:28* It's no longer time for you to keep this uncharted three collectors edition box or whatever. *18:31* I wish I had uncharted three collectors edition boxes. *18:37* Hello everybody and welcome to Chapter Select, a seasonal podcast where we bounce back and forth between a series. *18:54* Exploring its evolution design and legacy. *19:01* For season four, we are covering the Fast and Furious series. *19:04* I am one of your hosts, Max Robertson. *19:08* I'm joined, as always, by Logan Moore. *19:09* Hi Logan. *19:12* Max, Daddy's gotta do some podcasts and daddy's gotta go to work, baby. *19:13* It's time to unleash the beast. *19:19* The podcasting beast. *19:22* Exactly. *19:24* It's time to talk about Furious Seven. *19:25* This is uh I I don't know. *19:27* I yeah, we're getting we're getting into the craziness. *19:31* Like I this was one of the first movies that we watched in the series that I actively texted you *19:34* And I wanna just read my exact text you what it said because I think I texted you around twelve thirty or one AM after I yeah, I finished watching this movie around twelve thirty or so and I just said, These films are getting increasingly more hype. *19:38* And then you just said and you sent a gif back. *19:53* Uh I sent a gif of Jack in the car clapping and saying we made it. *19:57* Yes, we did make it to the one that I think a lot of people consider the high point of the series, and I've obviously known about this for a long time, so *20:03* I'm glad that we've now watched it. *20:11* Beside next to Two Fast, Two Furious, and Fast Five, this is the other film that I have truly been waiting for you to watch. *20:13* I there's a lot of stuff in here that's very Logan energy, I think. *20:19* And this was one I was very excited for you to see. *20:23* Um and I'm glad we're finally doing this episode. *20:27* Yeah, I am uh looking forward to this one. *20:30* We've got a guest on this episode that we'll bring here in in a minute. *20:32* But first let's do our initial rundown of everything with Furious Seven. *20:36* No fast. *20:41* They went they went full just in timber, like drop the fast, Furious Seven, it's cleaner. *20:42* Yeah, it's kind of the repeat of it's like the true sequel to Fast Five name structure-wise. *20:48* They tried it with six, where the title card in the movie says Furious Six. *20:53* But it's actually just Fast and Furious Six. *20:58* It's strange. *21:01* But Furious Seven they embraced the the back half of it and I appreciate it. *21:01* Feel like they were worried that they ha were gonna have a branding problem and no one would go see it and then uh lo and behold this movie made. *21:06* 1. *21:12* 5 billion dollars, which we'll get into here in one second. *21:13* Uh this movie launched on April 3rd, 2015. *21:15* It was directed *21:19* By James Wan. *21:21* Uh we mentioned last time around that Justin Lynn's trilogy of Fast and Furious Fast Five and Fast and Furious Six *21:22* Uh were the endpour the franchise for him, at least for that moment. *21:29* He obviously comes back later on, but James Wan of later Aquaman fame came in. *21:33* Yeah, I've never seen those. *21:41* He's Aquaman Man. *21:42* Really? *21:43* You've never seen Saw? *21:43* Never seen Saw. *21:45* We do another sea we can do a season on those later *21:46* Even though I I think that sounds really sorry. *21:49* Miser I was gonna say I think that sounds miserable. *21:51* Yeah, I wouldn't recommend that. *21:53* Which is James Wan, I would give a thumbs up to. *21:57* I would say that's the same thing. *21:59* I've not seen the Saw films, any of them. *22:03* I just know it's got the little puppet man in it. *22:05* Producers this time were uh Neil H. *22:10* Moritz, Vin Diesel, and Michael Fotrel. *22:13* Uh the writer was Chris Morgan. *22:16* The actors this time around. *22:18* Again, much of the same cast, but we've got Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Michelle Rodriguez, Jordana Brewster, Tyrese Gibson. *22:20* Chris Ludacris Bridges, Natalia Emmanuel, which is a new character, right? *22:27* She plays Ramsey. *22:32* Okay, that's what I thought. *22:33* Uh Dwayne the Rock Johnson. *22:34* We got Ronda Rousey joining here for a select scene. *22:36* Uh Kurt Russell and Jason Statham. *22:40* And also I'm going to drop in Iggy Azalea for some strange reason shows up in this movie. *22:43* I could I didn't even know she was in this movie, so Because yeah, she shows up at Race Wars and she's like, Yeah, Letty *22:47* Something. *22:55* Iggy Azalea, why are you here? *22:58* Uh I I don't like Icky. *23:00* Uh composer, Brian Tyler, once again composer of the film. *23:02* Stunt coordinators. *23:05* We had Joel Kramer as the supervising stunt coordinator. *23:06* Uh Oakley Lehman, uh Spyro Rasatos, that is a sick name. *23:09* Spiro Razatos, Spyro Razatos? *23:16* Not sure. *23:19* Sick name though. *23:20* And uh Troy Robinson *23:21* The budget on this film was $250 million. *23:23* It's Max notes here in our own notes that it's the 17th most expensive movie ever made. *23:26* Which sounds pretty crazy. *23:32* It's tied with some stuff. *23:33* Yeah, which sounds like a lot of money to pour into a film, but uh as mentioned, they got 1. *23:35* 5 billion back on it as a return, which is *23:40* That is a hefty gross profit, I would have to say. *23:44* The rotten tomatoes on this one, I think this has to be one of the highest across the board that we have seen for both critics. *23:49* And fan responses of all of them. *23:55* It's up there with fast five, I believe. *23:56* Critics gave this one an 81% overall. *23:59* Audiences gave this an 82% aggregate score. *24:02* So this is It's the closest the two have ever been. *24:06* Yes. *24:10* By all accounts, whether it be profit at the box office, Rotten Tomatoes scores, this is considered one of the high points in the series. *24:11* So and *24:20* As a refresher, Fast and Furious 6 profit 788. *24:21* 7 million. *24:27* This movie *24:28* more than d more than roughly or did double. *24:30* Like it's in the double ballpark of it. *24:32* It more than doubled it. *24:35* I'll do the math for you. *24:36* It more than doubled it. *24:37* Well no I think the eighty eight brings it kind of close. *24:39* Uh no, I don't know. *24:42* I'll do math later. *24:44* It more than doubled it, a thousand percent. *24:45* I'm bad at math. *24:48* This is why I write. *24:49* No, you don't have to punch in the numbers. *24:51* I'm doing that anyway. *24:53* Seven six hundred and eighty-eight? *24:55* Nope, it's just under half. *24:57* Doubling doubling seven hundred and eighty-eight point seven million dollars. *24:59* Oh, I thought you said six hundred eighty-eight. *25:04* I'm sorry. *25:05* No, seven hundred and eighty-eight. *25:06* Okay. *25:08* Then no, it did not double it. *25:08* Yeah, I'm sorry. *25:09* My bad. *25:10* Just shy. *25:11* Just shy of it by, you know, a cool fifty million or so. *25:11* Isn't that wild? *25:15* Holy smokes. *25:17* So this is the big one. *25:18* This is the big boy. *25:20* I'm curious to see what the other *25:21* uh profits end up being for the future movies when we do those because I know that those have obviously been big too, even though F9 released in a pandemic *25:24* Time. *25:33* So that'll be curious to see and take into account. *25:33* I mean it's the it's the tenth highest grossing movie of all time. *25:37* It's up there with, I would imagine, a lot of Marvel films and Avatar and Titanic and other things like that. *25:42* He pretty much nailed it. *25:49* That's pretty sad that you could just yeah, all how many of them are Marvel in the top ten? *25:52* I have to know. *25:57* One *25:58* Two, three, four. *25:59* Four of them are Marvel. *26:01* Can I guess what they are? *26:02* Sure. *26:04* Endgame and Infinity War. *26:05* Correct. *26:07* Um Endgame is number two. *26:07* Infinity War is number six. *26:09* Spider-Man No Way Home. *26:10* Number six. *26:12* Okay, and then is OG Avengers the other one? *26:13* Correct at number nine. *26:16* Okay. *26:19* Yep. *26:20* I did it. *26:21* I know my Marvel films. *26:22* And how they profit at the box office. *26:24* Anyway, uh *26:27* Like I said before, we do have a guest on this episode, and uh it's somebody who's been on chapter select before. *26:28* Let's uh bring Ricky Freck back into the fold to talk about Furious 7 with us. *26:35* Hi Ricky. *26:39* Wow. *26:40* Hey, how's it going? *26:40* I am not too bad. *26:42* Uh Ricky, as I said here, is a returning guest. *26:43* He was on our Paper Mario season a long time back. *26:46* Um I d I again I can tell Max's the gears are spinning in Max's head right now, so he's trying to figure out if we've had anybody on twice. *26:49* I don't think we have though. *26:56* Ricky's the first repeat. *26:57* The only other possibility would have been Mike, but Mike has not been on twice yet. *26:58* Yeah. *27:04* Mike's not Mike's not been on a gamer episode. *27:04* He's only been on a film episode here with us. *27:07* This is true. *27:10* As someone that podcasts with him every few weeks, he's not much of a gamer. *27:11* So it makes sense. *27:15* Yeah. *27:16* No, sounds about right. *27:16* So he almost has me started. *27:21* I've never told him to stop watching the CW. *27:23* So don't put it in. *27:25* I tried to I tried to have an intervention for him and I don't I don't think it worked. *27:27* But uh Ricky, you're joining us because uh you said you would do literally any of these with us and seven was the one that you just *27:30* said that you would do when I said, well choose one if you're gonna choose one. *27:40* And you said, I guess I'll do seven, because I feel like that's a good one to talk about. *27:44* So let's talk about furious seven. *27:48* What a film. *27:52* Well what are your gen we'll start with Ricky, what are your general thoughts and feelings on this entry? *27:53* In the franchise. *28:00* And also, I guess, talk about your own touchstones to the whole franchise and how you got into it and stuff like that. *28:01* Give us your own history overall. *28:06* Sure. *28:08* So uh I'm much older than you two. *28:09* Um I'm reminded of that every time I listen to one of these podcasts and you're like, oh yeah, blah, blah, blah. *28:12* This happened. *28:17* I was eight *28:17* And I'm like, oh, I was 14. *28:18* My tales of being in second or third grade when the original movie came out, I'm sure that makes you feel very young. *28:22* Yeah. *28:28* So um when the first one came out *28:28* We didn't have cable for the longest time, so my dad would just buy us movies and then I'd watch them over and over again. *28:31* So in my heavy rotation was like the first three Star Wars movies. *28:38* The Rock, Armageddon, uh, Snake Eyes, and then The Fast and the Furious was also within that rotation. *28:43* So I've probably watched the first movie *28:51* I don't I don't know all the way through, but at least started and watched the first hour while I was going to sleep. *28:54* Probably a hundred times, if not more. *28:59* I love it. *29:02* So I've been a big fan of the series for a long time. *29:03* Um saw this one in theaters by myself. *29:06* Um I think I think I I think I have the right count. *29:09* This was *29:12* Fifteenth the fifteenth time I've seen it. *29:13* So yeah. *29:16* I will say in watching it again twice for this that uh I have on my last notes. *29:17* I don't know *29:23* If this is too far into my uh feelings on the movie, but I said maybe one of my top five movies ever made. *29:24* Okay. *29:31* So uh yeah, it's it can go around echalon pretty easy. *29:32* Are you so you're in agreement that this is one of your favorite movies ever, Max? *29:36* I've said before, Fast Five is my favorite Fast and Furious movie, and I think a lot of it has to do with the safe. *29:40* I just think that then this though is *29:46* Second favorite top, you know, this movie is awesome. *29:50* You could put this on. *29:53* It's another one that you can just put on and I will sit and watch it. *29:54* The is if it's on, I'm there. *29:58* I anytime, any place. *30:00* This is *30:03* Removing the Paul stuff, this movie just has the set pieces again are just on another level. *30:06* They those meetings have to be bonkers. *30:13* But the set pieces *30:16* Deckard and what he'll go on to be, but in this movie he's super great. *30:19* And then *30:24* Just family it's just it's so good. *30:26* I d we've ev elevated again to just super spy superheroes and it's just bonkers. *30:28* This movie is bonkers. *30:35* and uh I'm I'm rat or die anytime with this one. *30:37* So for myself, obviously again, have never seen this movie. *30:42* I mean, I I I knew again, there's things I know about all these movies. *30:47* Six was the one I was probably most blind on, honestly. *30:51* Really? *30:54* Okay. *30:55* Six and too fast. *30:55* And *30:57* Yeah, two fast and six were probably the two I was most blind on. *30:58* And Fast and Furious, I guess. *31:01* This one though, I mean you can't I I was more cognizant of this because obviously Paul Walker's dead, so I even as an outsider I was kind of paying a little bit more attention to this movie. *31:03* Um, I think that's true for a lot of casual fans or f even casual moviegoers. *31:12* So I'd seen the ending scene before out of curiosity and things like that. *31:17* I had watched in the past. *31:22* I had never seen the movie though, and so now that we're watching them all through here this time, this movie has found a way to up the ridiculousness to a level that I even coming off the six that I was not *31:24* expecting with this one. *31:36* They go full just stupid in this one. *31:38* Like but at the same time, and so I think the movie's very fun. *31:42* It's a great watch. *31:46* I was audibly laughing throughout the entire *31:47* film. *31:50* I it's it's a borderline just a comedy series at this point for me. *31:50* But I also wrote down this. *31:54* This is kind of I think my purest *31:56* And I don't mean this in a bad way because I think they handle the Paw Walker stuff. *31:59* That that's separate and we'll talk about that later. *32:02* But I wrote down for the movie itself *32:04* This feels like the first movie in the series that has become somewhat formulaic. *32:06* It's almost self-aware that it's now this massive blockbuster franchise and is just focused on hitting all the r the all the big *32:10* all the big notes while also trying to make callbacks to the previous movies to make it feel like it's part of the same series. *32:17* This it feels *32:24* The movie feels too self-aware of what it is at this point. *32:27* And I don't mean that as a bad thing, because again, it makes for fun. *32:31* It's it's a great watch. *32:35* It's enjoyable. *32:36* But this small *32:38* grounded nature of the family and stuff like that. *32:40* I feel like it it's not it's not necessarily getting lost, but it just feels like this has now become this massive corporate *32:43* product that is being put out for the masses to consume and enjoy. *32:51* And that doesn't take away from the enjoyment of it, but this is the first one that felt *32:55* Hollywood-ified more than any of the others that we've watched. *33:02* It's interesting that you say that seven movies in. *33:06* Yes. *33:09* I feel like Justin Lynn helped keep the other ones *33:10* Uh not grounded, but more personal. *33:14* Yeah. *33:19* I don't know. *33:20* And James Wan does a lot of cool things and I think his directorial style in this movie is great. *33:20* And it's kinda there's some Buckwild uh just visual aspects of this movie that we can get into. *33:25* And so I don't feel like it's bland from like a cinematography perspective or how he's shooting the movie or anything like that. *33:30* It's just *33:37* Yeah, formulaic is a good word. *33:39* Like it this movie feels like it was cut like when they came together and decided to make this movie *33:41* They were like, all right, we want to do this scene where it's this. *33:46* What are the story segments like it like this movie doesn't feel like a script that somebody sat down and wrote, like, I'm gonna write a movie script. *33:49* It feels like it was an amalgamation of *33:55* hundreds of people sitting together in a room and saying, let's come up with these five action sequences, and then we can build everything else around it, and the story can try to *33:57* flow in and out of these sequences. *34:05* Like it feels stitched together in that way. *34:07* Like there's a lot of people's hands now on this product and trying to make this. *34:10* This is in some way the toughest one. *34:15* to Stitch in because it comes right after Tokyo Drift, right? *34:18* In the Yeah. *34:21* Like so they had to bring that stuff back in into a movie to make it make sense. *34:23* So I'm not I mean, I don't think you're wrong, but it is maybe tougher to make a script *34:26* That says personable because you're bringing in stuff from I mean when did Tokyo Drift come out? *34:32* Two thousand four six. *34:38* I think so I don't know. *34:40* I mean I agree. *34:43* I think you're right. *34:43* I'm just saying *34:44* I think I mean yes, I this is very much like uh the ninth season of Friends where they have become almost character caricatures of themselves, but *34:45* Yeah, I don't know. *34:56* And again, it's still highly entertaining. *34:57* It's still a very fun watch. *34:59* I would rewatch the movie now and have a good time with it. *35:00* It just *35:03* It feels like there's a lot of hands on this thing now. *35:04* Um with a lot of different yes. *35:08* It feels *35:11* Like they are trying to be very intentional with what they're doing because they have a formula, they know what the audience likes, and they're trying not to deviate from it too much. *35:13* But they're also trying to stay true to *35:21* what it has been and they th throw in some little things here and there like let's bring race wars back for just two minutes. *35:23* That's awesome, man. *35:30* Race Wars PTSD, baby. *35:31* Hector. *35:33* Hector. *35:34* Why is Iggy Azalea in that scene? *35:35* Why not? *35:37* Sure. *35:39* Like that was the that was the other thing. *35:39* There's a lot of celebrity cameos in this movie, and it's like, why are they in this film? *35:41* Rhonda Rousey just shows up because she was really big and *35:45* 2015 when this movie came out, so sure, let's throw her in and sure we'll have a fight scene with her and uh w okay, so I will say, is this the point? *35:49* Where they realized how much money they were gonna make in China. *35:58* Because this series makes a ton of money in China. *36:02* And so *36:05* If you're making a a movie for that audience, you aren't gonna have as much dialogue, you're gonna focus more on the action. *36:06* Is this the point where they really realize that? *36:12* Probably. *36:16* Because the Transformers movies would have been blowing up over there by this time. *36:17* And I know not that they were the only films doing well in China, but I know those were like some of the huge *36:21* initial blockbusters of that era that were doing gangbusters in China. *36:28* So those those surely had a big influence on *36:32* uh what universe I mean with the fast franchise now as well. *36:37* He's not Chinese, but they did bring in Tony Ja for his first Hollywood movie, which is huge. *36:41* Yeah. *36:46* For us Tony Jaw fans, I don't know if you guys have watched his other stuff. *36:46* What else is he in? *36:50* Uh he made Ongbok, um, which is one of the greatest action movies of all time. *36:52* Uh he's in The Bodyguard. *36:58* Okay, I think that's a good thing. *37:00* Yeah. *37:01* Yeah. *37:03* Because I recognize his name, but I don't know if I've seen him in anything personally. *37:03* So a little googling, little box office mojo. *37:08* Uh the domestic box office for Furious Seven alone, out of the one point five billion, three hundred and fifty-three million of that was domestic. *37:12* And then China alone was 390 million. *37:23* So just about ninety ninety one million more than here, uh, which makes, you know, obviously the six over *37:30* almost seven hundred thousand dollars alone just in those two areas. *37:37* So yeah. *37:41* Close now I I didn't look it up, but you probably could compare that to Furious Six and see what kind of leap there is. *37:42* Cause this is the first *37:48* The last movie I think was around six and a half, maybe seven hundred million. *37:51* Six hundred and seven hundred million. *37:55* This doubled around the world, which is *37:57* Yeah. *38:01* Definitely in part I d I think Paul Walker's death is a the factor of that draws a lot of people in *38:02* Just that's an element. *38:09* But also this movie just again, bigger, better. *38:10* This is $250 million budget. *38:14* How much of that was marketing? *38:16* They definitely were pushing hard and it it pays off financially uh in the long run as well. *38:18* So let's start breaking the movie down a bit more piece by piece. *38:23* I want to obviously th we're going to naturally bring it up a lot throughout our discussion. *38:26* Paul Walker and his involvement in this movie and his death and we can uh table like guess the final scene and our thoughts on that. *38:32* I I guess for more near the end. *38:39* of the discussion. *38:42* I want to bring it back. *38:43* Let's start with this because uh Ricky mentioned, or I think Max maybe mentioned Deckard Shaw and him being in this movie and him being great. *38:44* I gotta say I was disappointed by him. *38:54* And I think I'll start to like him more in the future, but I don't *38:56* I I there's things I like and dislike. *39:01* I I I like that him as a character that his opening scene is uh his opening scene is excellent. *39:04* It's show, don't tell. *39:08* Uh where they just kind of use you're able to view for yourself what he has done to get into this hospital and uh start his path of revenge. *39:10* But at the same time, I don't feel like I know anything about this man or care about him. *39:22* He's just this dude who just keeps showing up everywhere randomly with the gun is trying to kill everybody. *39:28* Okay, yeah, I get that in theory, but I don't care about him. *39:35* Like, I guess what I'm saying is at this point in time the thought that *39:40* Two movies from now, we're gonna watch a movie where he's gonna be one of the main protagonists, is really baffling and strange to me. *39:44* Yeah. *39:50* Because there's n virtually no characterization for him in this movie. *39:50* He's nothing more than just *39:54* Jason statham with various weapons fighting people. *39:56* And that's about it. *40:00* Uh he has very little *40:01* backstory or any sort of information about his character that you would care about in this movie other than just what other people say, which is this guy is *40:05* The ultimate assassin, the ultimate fighter, he's a shadow, he's a ghost. *40:14* Like everything that you are informed about by him is just by him kicking everybody's butts and from what other people in this world are saying about him *40:18* Him as a character himself is pretty boring to some degree. *40:27* I also don't understand his character motivations as much that much, but we'll get into that in a second. *40:33* You have an inter it's an interesting prop problem's too strong of a word, I think. *40:39* It's an interesting perspective of anyone who's watching these movies with the knowledge of Hobbes and Shaw just existing, as in he is a *40:44* titular character in the o first and only spin-off of Fast and Furious so far, movie-wise. *40:52* Uh okay. *40:58* Movie-wise. *40:59* Don't worry, Ricky. *41:00* I can't uh *41:01* You know, it's like, how does the villain become a hero? *41:04* You know, in this I mean that's happened with Hobbes, so I'm kind of used to it from that perspective. *41:08* Hobbes not necessarily as much like *41:13* Deckard is the villain, is the bad guy. *41:16* Hobbes was just the cop chasing them. *41:20* Brian was a cop, you know, that sort of thing. *41:22* I don't have as much problem with him being the antagonist. *41:24* It's more just *41:27* I'm trying to think how much he talks in this movie. *41:28* Not a lot. *41:31* It's not a lot. *41:31* So there's just not a lot to cling on to him personally. *41:34* It'll be fun to see that develop over the course of these movies for you. *41:38* Yeah. *41:42* The reason he can just show up anywhere is because he is a shadow. *41:42* Like that's the only written justification for him just showing up in Abu Dhabi or *41:46* being in some plant somewhere or just appearing at the funeral. *41:51* Like he just can. *41:55* And so this gives him carte blanche superpowers to just be this awesome ex-military guy. *41:56* Which is fun. *42:03* Which is it's fun that he just keeps showing up everywhere. *42:04* Now I'm here in my car and I'm racing down the the highway and now I'm here in this party and I got a rock uh grenade launcher. *42:12* Uh it's totally outlandish and silly *42:19* The one thing I did want to throw out there uh that I just thought was so strange is his core motiv *42:23* I don't know why they establish at the start of the movie that Owen is still alive. *42:31* Because at the end of six, it's you're it's kind of assumed that he's dead. *42:37* And then this movie, I mean, you see he's he's messed up, but he's alive and he's in a hospital bed. *42:41* I guess my point is I've never seen somebody so bloodthirsty and out for vengeance. *42:47* Against somebody against a group of people. *42:52* I get that they hurt his brother, but his brother's not dead. *42:54* Like it's I I don't know. *42:57* I feel like if I know I feel like it I guess what I'm saying is they could have just killed Owen. *42:59* And then his character motivations, I guess, would have made a little bit more sense. *43:04* He's just he's a he's really pissed off for somebody whose brother is not even dead. *43:07* Like *43:13* He he's in a hospital bed and he's not doing well, but I don't know. *43:14* Just they should have killed Owen. *43:19* It was a s it was implied that Owen was dead. *43:21* Just have him show up at start the movie in front of a cemetery that's got his headstone on it or something and then go from there. *43:24* I Oh they had stuff to talk about. *43:30* I was gonna say, I assume Owen will show back up or something, which is *43:33* If you've learned anything, Logan, no one is really dead until you got a confirmed body. *43:37* The one thing about Deckard as the villain in in this motivation *43:42* that I noticed this time around or picked up on was he's the first villain in the series up to this date who *43:47* is like a villain his motivations are tied to family. *43:55* Everyone else so far has been drug lords or uh international terrorist. *43:58* This one is a family motivated *44:04* plot which aligns with what our heroes are always fighting for. *44:07* Family. *44:10* So it's interesting to finally see family twisted in a way that is *44:11* for the bad guy and be the the drive against our heroes. *44:16* Yeah. *44:20* He's the shadow Vend Esoul. *44:20* Yeah. *44:22* He's skinnier Vin Diesel. *44:24* He's still bald though. *44:26* Yep. *44:28* He uses guns a little bit more, but that's about it. *44:29* Yeah, I mean I'm curious to see how his character *44:32* develops and obviously I know there's gonna be a lot of other things that happen. *44:36* How oh that's the other thing I want to mention though. *44:39* Owen not dying makes brings up points from I know you haven't listened to our episode yet, Ricky. *44:41* at the moment we're talking about this. *44:48* But we had a big talk with Mario in the last movie about Giselle's strange death, where she just slips into the *44:49* Dark void and is presumed dead. *44:56* Yeah. *45:00* So how does she die when she's like five feet off the ground and falls backward off the car, but Owen gets shucked out of a airplane and he's *45:00* alive and is I it's again that just makes our whole discussion about J Zell's death that much more valid. *45:09* And I d I mean as far as I know, she is not returned in any of the other movies. *45:17* I know you said no one's ever really dead until they *45:20* are really dead. *45:23* To my knowledge, she is not back. *45:24* But maybe I'm wrong. *45:26* She has bigger movies to go star in, you know? *45:28* She had to become Wonder Woman. *45:30* I will say *45:31* Fun fact I learned watching uh behind the scenes stuff this time. *45:33* There's a deleted scene with the Chiselle. *45:36* There's a there is. *45:39* I saw her in the I saw her in the opening credits of the movie and I'm like, is there gonna be a flashback or something on this? *45:41* And then all there was was the little picture of her. *45:45* But there's a deleted scene with her. *45:48* It's there actually there's a couple of deleted scenes with Letty like trying to find out who she was. *45:50* I think these were the parts of the movies that they cut when she leaves and goes, I gotta figure out who I am *45:56* But she goes to this hospital or clinic where she was brought after the explosion in Fast and Furious. *46:02* And Giselle was the one that brought her to the clinic. *46:07* And so there's like Letty on the table looking up as Giselle is bringing her into this clinic. *46:11* So Golgadot is in this movie. *46:17* But they deleted this these scenes where she's learning about herself. *46:20* So I was surprised. *46:24* I had never heard that she was even she had shot anything for this movie. *46:25* So that was kind of a fun tidbit. *46:29* Yeah. *46:31* I didn't know that either. *46:31* We've talked about Deckard and kind of his character motivations and that puts a lot of the other story beats into play. *46:33* Let's just run through the story in a general sense and kinda like we've been doing with the past couple episodes, Max, maybe go through some of these different characters in their own arcs. *46:39* within this movie. *46:47* I don't know if there's a lot to touch on this time around with, you know, like Tej and Tyrese and They have settled into their roles. *46:48* Yeah, they're just kind of there as good side characters uh this time around. *46:55* That's what they are. *47:00* But Vinzark is very straightforward, then he just wants to fight this man. *47:01* And I don't know if there's even a whole lot we can say there. *47:06* Dao's become pretty one note. *47:09* He is very much *47:12* the meme at this point, which is just family, family, family. *47:15* Like he is that's that's that that's Dom's character at this point in time. *47:19* He does not have a whole lot else going like *47:23* Gotta protect my family. *47:25* Gotta fight for my family. *47:26* My f the power of family. *47:28* Don't turn your back on family. *47:30* I mean, that's just *47:32* I didn't get there he really didn't feel like he had much going on with his character in this movie, which is fine. *47:34* He's still an enjoyable front and center protagonist in this movie. *47:39* He's got the same motivation he did in Fast and Furious when Letty died. *47:44* Or died, quotes around it. *47:48* You know? *47:49* He *47:50* A person killed a family member and I must now kill them was the whole is his whole motivation. *47:52* This time it's just someone cooler than a mysterious drug lord. *47:59* Oh, I thought you meant Han is cooler than Letty. *48:03* I mean that's true. *48:07* True. *48:09* Is it? *48:10* Yeah, I think he's cooler than Letty. *48:11* I do gotta say my hottest take of the series is that Han's just aight. *48:14* He's a cool doesn't mean he's bad. *48:17* He's just if we're going down the food chain, it's like Brian and Dom above everybody. *48:22* And then it's like Hobbs is up there. *48:29* Yeah, I like Brian. *48:33* Hobbs? *48:34* Yeah. *48:35* What is wrong? *48:37* Dude, he he gets a he gets a chain gun in this movie that he ha he pulls from a drone. *48:38* That's pretty cool. *48:44* Yeah, I mean, he breaks out of a cast and says, Daddy's gotta go to work. *48:45* Sir, someone just double tapped our drone. *48:50* He gives a he gives uh Jason Statham the rock bottom through a table. *48:53* That was cool. *48:58* Yeah. *48:59* Like Hobbs is pretty Hobbs is and then he and then he gets *48:59* Blasted out a window and crashes on a car and he's just fine for the most part. *49:03* Would have killed a normal person *49:08* I mean like half the things they do in this movie could have would've killed a normal person and they just walk away. *49:10* Yes. *49:15* I mean while we're talking about superhuman feats in this movie, my favorite thing, bar none, maybe one of my favorite things in the entire series *49:17* Is that when they go into the prince's safe, Dom just lifts up a car. *49:24* Yes. *49:30* He's just like, quick Brian, get under the get under the car. *49:31* I will lift it. *49:35* And he just lifts it up there and holds it for a good five minutes or so like it's just, you know, nothing. *49:36* It's it's not like it weighs thousands of pounds or anything. *49:42* A lichen hypersport weighs just over three thousand pounds. *49:45* Jeez. *49:49* What a man. *49:50* And that one was allegedly well it wasn't allegedly, it was bulletproof, which you would think adds weight to it, so *49:52* You know, just just a good solid squat and lift. *49:59* Yeah, that was uh definitely my favorite superhero feat I think we've seen so far because it was just they weren't even trying to *50:03* Hide it. *50:11* Like some of these other ones that they've done where he jumps out of a car and jumps across a bridge and catches Letty Mid. *50:12* Like that stuff is so goofy. *50:17* But this one was just him blatantly, no, I'm just gonna lift up a car here real fast. *50:19* Like *50:23* It has been established that he can hold an engine block with one arm, so lifting a car doesn't seem too far out of the realm of possibility for him. *50:24* No. *50:32* Imagine if he can if he can hold an engine block with one arm, imagine what he can do with two *50:33* And apparently it's lifting a sports car. *50:36* They had to establish it here because some wild stuff is gonna happen soon. *50:40* Mm-hmm. *50:44* Some truly wild things will happen. *50:46* We've talked about so we've talked about Dom. *50:50* I don't know what other *50:53* characters are I guess Hobbs Hobbes doesn't have a whole lot going on. *50:54* He's pretty much sidelined until the final fight in this movie. *50:57* And he has a good opening fight there with that opening fight with Deckard is really fun for *51:00* All the reasons I think I mentioned before. *51:06* Max is probably not even aware. *51:09* There are so many. *51:11* I may as well bring this up now. *51:12* There are so many callbacks to *51:13* the rock personally in this movie. *51:16* And I don't know if Max would have noticed these. *51:18* There is a clip of him in the hospital watching football, and the football player he is watching is himself. *51:21* They're playing highlights from his career at Miami, and he is sacking the quarterback, and then it comes on the news that says breaking news, downtown LA. *51:29* That's awesome. *51:38* The thing they're showing on screen is his highlights from when he was a college football player at Miami. *51:39* That's pretty dope. *51:44* That's awesome. *51:46* So there's that in the movie. *51:46* He rock bottoms Decker Child. *51:48* Like there's a lot of callbacks to the rock personally in this movie. *51:50* Which I thought was quite funny. *51:53* Other than that, Hobbes doesn't get to do a whole lot, which is I was fine with it, honestly. *51:55* Like the cast flex is like one of the best moments in the entire series. *52:01* Yes. *52:07* That was that was one of the audible laugh scenes from me when he just breaks out of his cast like it's nothing. *52:07* This is probably the rock's best movie. *52:14* Like the best movies ever been in. *52:17* Yeah. *52:19* I mean most of the okay, I I'm gonna take some heat from this. *52:20* Most of The Rock's movies are bad. *52:23* I mean yeah. *52:24* And I I like The Rock, but *52:25* I don't know. *52:28* I mean he's in a lot of like kids' films or uh I don't know. *52:29* I wanna say dumb people films. *52:36* I'll call 'em uh wide audience uh films. *52:37* Sure. *52:42* I you know, he this is definitely the smallest role in the Fast and Furious he's had up to this point. *52:43* But I think they've r at this point in the movies, they've realized kind of the impact Hobbes can have, and they save him for two really just the beginning and the end. *52:51* Uh they just use him for the right moment. *53:03* His scenes at the end of the movie are really three things. *53:07* The ambulance. *53:12* He jackles a drone out of the sky with an ambulance. *53:13* Exactly. *53:17* And then shoots grenades on a helicopter. *53:17* Like those are the three things that he does really at the end of this movie. *53:19* But they're so *53:23* ballin' that he just it they just n it works. *53:25* It doesn't you don't f miss him as much in the middle there *53:30* Because when he does come at the end, it's so worth it. *53:34* When he says Womanite and the Calvary, everyone's just like, woo-hoo, that's on the level of you know, Avengers Assemble. *53:38* I do agree with Ricky that I think this might be Pound for Pound, it's definitely his best movie in this series. *53:49* I I mean he's been great in I think he's been very great in all of these movies. *53:55* And I don't know if Ricky agrees with that clearly. *53:58* Okay, look, I am on Vin Diesel's side of the feud, obviously. *54:01* I think *54:05* I think Vin everything Vin Diesel has done has been better than The Rock, except for obviously wrestling. *54:06* Although I don't know if you've seen Vin Diesel's breakdancing video. *54:11* It might be better than Rock's wrestling career. *54:14* That's not a good idea. *54:16* I just learned today that Vin Diesel used to be a break dancer. *54:16* Yeah, I had the tape. *54:20* I knew he was a singer in high school. *54:21* But like you take their kid movies, right? *54:25* So The Rock has the game plan and Tooth Fairy *54:28* The Pacifier is better than both of those movies. *54:31* Right. *54:34* Pacifiers topic. *54:34* Has the Rock The Rock's like most serious movie is what? *54:35* Pain and Gain? *54:38* Walking Tall? *54:39* I don't know. *54:40* And Vin Diesel was in uh Saving Private Ryan. *54:41* I just think he's a better he's a better actor. *54:45* He's an iron giant. *54:47* Yeah, the only thing The Rock has on him is he's more jacked. *54:49* And he's and he's been WWE World Heavyweight Champion. *54:54* But you know, and he's gonna mainline WrestleMania next year, probably. *54:58* Yeah, most likely and run for president *55:04* Yeah. *55:07* Vin Diesel could do all those things if he wanted to. *55:08* That would be a great that would be a really great uh presidential ticket. *55:12* Vin Diesel versus Rock. *55:16* We'll see who the people really align with. *55:17* Right. *55:20* If as if Vin has uh Tyrese as his vice president, he's winning. *55:20* Who would the Rock have as his VP? *55:24* I don't know. *55:27* Uh *55:28* I feel like it just would be bad. *55:30* Kevin Hart. *55:33* It's gotta be Kevin Hart. *55:34* Yeah, Kevin Hart. *55:35* That's a good one. *55:35* Probably Kevin Hart. *55:36* Yeah, because him and Tyrese could get very *55:37* Snippy with each other. *55:40* They're kind of similar with how they loudmouth VP nouns. *55:41* Mm-hmm. *55:45* That would be good. *55:46* Yeah, let's do that. *55:47* Make it happen. *55:49* Democratic and Republican parties or whoever. *55:50* I guess we'll they they'd be both be independent. *55:53* We could get the to finally dissolve the two two-party system within the United States. *55:55* Um *56:02* Hobbs is good in the movie. *56:03* I I don't know who I guess let's talk more about some of the new characters. *56:05* Ramsey gets involved in this movie, uh as I knew as uh Game of Thrones lady *56:09* Uh yeah, yeah. *56:15* I was like, oh it's her Game of Thrones ladies in this. *56:18* Uh and I always liked her in that show. *56:22* I didn't know she was in these movies, so the *56:24* Cool. *56:27* I I I don't know I assume she's in all the other ones too. *56:27* She's now part of the family, so I'm curious to see how her role will grow in the future movies. *56:30* I do think she's got good chemistry right off the bat with *56:37* Roman and Tej, which is I mean how could you not how could you not have good comment teacher with Tyrese? *56:41* Yes. *56:47* She's got great chemistry with them. *56:48* Uh I assume she will continue to buddy around with them and *56:49* I don't have a whole lot to say about her. *56:54* Her character is very. *56:56* I mean, everything associated with God's Eye again is just so. *56:59* Insane. *57:04* I obviously realize that these movies are I'm not trying to take them even remotely serious, but it is *57:08* It is just goofy. *57:14* It is so so silly. *57:16* They could have found Osama bin Laden in in like an hour. *57:17* Come on. *57:20* Yes. *57:21* That's a great line. *57:21* Do you wanna do you wanna talk about this God's eye part of the plot? *57:23* Yeah, we can. *57:27* Yeah, yeah. *57:28* I think watching it this time, I think *57:30* That and what is the other villain's name? *57:34* Like Moses or something? *57:37* Uh Jaconde. *57:39* That guy. *57:41* He okay. *57:42* He's got such a cool intro, it just goes slow-mo for no reason, and he gets out of a car. *57:43* James Wan's like, we need slow-mo effect right here when this man gets out of his car. *57:50* And that's, you know, it's cool, it's great, but him being like this B-line storyline plot villain *57:55* Like I don't know I don't like that, but since Deckard is such a shadow that just appears wherever, it feels like we needed one more thing to motivate them to get God's Eye and Mr. *58:04* Nobody to chase. *58:15* It just *58:16* He feels like the one addition that's too much. *58:17* Look, if if Deckard maybe had taken a more prominent villain role, we wouldn't even have needed him at all. *58:20* And it could have just been trying to get God's eye for the government. *58:26* I *58:29* That felt a bit too packed for me. *58:30* Him flying around in the helicopter just shouting, shoot the drone, take the shot. *58:32* Yeah, I didn't *58:38* I r I didn't really care for him this time around. *58:40* It felt like the weakest part of this movie for me, at least. *58:43* I don't I don't know how you two felt about it. *58:47* I do think some of that is so we kind of talked about it a little bit earlier, how they kind of try to have a they have like the family, the good guys, and then they have and not that Deckard is a good guy, but like *58:49* You know they're gonna try to set him up as Hobbes, right? *59:03* As the next guy to come in. *59:06* And so they don't want him to be completely bad. *59:08* So they have to have another bad person. *59:10* You know what I mean? *59:13* So I feel like they try to do that in every movie where they have the good guys that aren't really good guys because they're criminals and then like the the guy who's like either *59:13* Is a good guy, but is against our people or the bad guy that's not that bad, and then the bad, bad guy. *59:23* Like they always have to have those three factions. *59:29* And I don't know if it works as well this time. *59:32* Yeah. *59:35* Yeah, by the end of the movie you're more concerned about the helicopter and the drones that's flying around and blowing everything up more than you are about the the lightsaber fight that's taking *59:36* place on top of the parking garage between Finn and Jason Stapham. *59:46* I do think Max you touched on one thing with just him being *59:50* an inclusion too far within the movie's cast. *59:55* I think that's true for a lot of the new characters in this. *59:57* And this has kind of gotten me a little concerned about where we're heading with the fast *01:00:02* universe because I know Charlie's is about to come in and I know we're about the universe is about to grow even further and we got *01:00:08* freaking Jason Momoa and Bree Larson. *01:00:17* They're about to I mean that things are you gotta keep putting new characters in, I get that. *01:00:19* But I did not like Kurt Russell's character much at all. *01:00:23* I did not nobody? *01:00:28* I'm hurt. *01:00:29* He's *01:00:30* Okay. *01:00:31* I just don't he just kind of shows up. *01:00:32* Okay, I'll say this. *01:00:35* If he showed up and was like a real *01:00:36* Character his whole I'm a nobody. *01:00:39* I'm just a guy in a suit and I got a army and a bajillion dollars and I'm a secret agent man in Vin Diesel family. *01:00:41* Come help *01:00:50* I'm like, what the heck is is this? *01:00:50* That's the best part. *01:00:53* His charisma is so captivating. *01:00:54* He's he's I love Kurt Russell. *01:00:56* He's awesome in the movie. *01:00:58* Yeah, Kurt Russell's performance is great. *01:00:59* But just this *01:01:01* I defend the free world, but I'm so laid back. *01:01:02* Like, you know, I've got my own health insurance. *01:01:06* You've really gotta try this Belgian ale. *01:01:09* Like, he brings a levity to such *01:01:12* what is normally a super serious spy thing in any other movie. *01:01:14* He just brings a levity to it. *01:01:18* And I just I love his personality and he's so much fun. *01:01:20* What I should specify that I don't like about it is I think we could have had a more personal Deckard versus family movie, where Deckard is, you hurt my family, so now I'm gonna hurt your family. *01:01:24* And it could have been more just a *01:01:37* beef between him and Vin and Dom and the crew. *01:01:39* And I think that would have been fine. *01:01:44* Instead we gotta do this like large sweeping world building with all these inner *01:01:45* political machinations and this vast spy network and all these military intelligence people are getting folded in. *01:01:52* It's like, okay, uh the scope of this is getting *01:01:59* a little whack. *01:02:02* Like I'm fine with the set pieces being crazy and with and I feel like that's why they're folding this stuff in is because it's *01:02:04* a way for them to make these set pieces truly buck wild. *01:02:11* Like I don't know how you get the highway scene or you get the scene at the end with the helicopter. *01:02:16* Like I feel like they *01:02:21* like the producers of the movie or the script writers or the directors or whoever feel like they have to incorporate these like militaristic elements into this movie to make the action set pieces make sense. *01:02:23* Because if it was just Deckard versus *01:02:34* the family, then I don't know how you get those large explosive sequences otherwise. *01:02:37* So I feel like that's the explanation for why this stuff is happening, but I still don't think it *01:02:42* fits all that well. *01:02:48* We've gone from drag racing to now yes, a super spy *01:02:50* co covert ops military guys come into contact Dom Toretto, the street racer, and they're like, I know all about you. *01:02:56* I heard everything about you. *01:03:03* It's like, what the f is so so so strange. *01:03:04* Um *01:03:08* It just feels off, but I know that's where we're headed, so I'm accepting of it, I guess, but it is it is jarring. *01:03:09* Um, let's touch on some of these larger scale action sequences. *01:03:21* There are really So there's the one with the helicopter and the whole VIN and *01:03:25* Jason Statham fight scene. *01:03:31* I mean we've touched on a lot of them throughout here. *01:03:33* The one that opens the movie too with Hobbs and I again we're we're doing the thing where I'm calling people Deckard and Jason Statham one moment. *01:03:35* Like I keep dip I keep you *01:03:43* Aren't they just one and the same thing? *01:03:44* If you're listening to this, you know what I'm talking about. *01:03:47* I'm sorry. *01:03:49* Uh we get the we've got the opening fight scene between Hobbes and Deckard. *01:03:49* We've got the highway scene where they're dropping out of the airplanes, and then we've got the *01:03:54* Oh, the tower dice. *01:03:59* Yeah, the tower dice stuff. *01:04:01* Uh which one I guess was the best of the best in your guys' opinion? *01:04:03* Because I don't think there's a lot of great ones this time around, but I don't know if any of them *01:04:08* Top the ones we saw in six. *01:04:14* Hmm. *01:04:18* I don't know if any of these were upper echelon within the past two films specifically. *01:04:20* with the vaults the vault at the end of Fast V and I really like the tank and I really like the airplane in Fast Six. *01:04:24* Don't know *01:04:32* Overall, I think pa I mean this movie I think has the most action sequences though. *01:04:34* For sure. *01:04:39* Like, this is the majority of the movie. *01:04:40* There's *01:04:43* There's a lot going on in this one. *01:04:44* Yeah I don't know if any of them are like the helicopter stuff I'll just say this the Indian helicopter chase scene stuff was pretty *01:04:46* Unexciting except for the part where she jumps out of a window between cars. *01:04:52* That's the best part of all that. *01:04:58* Otherwise I didn't think them riding around and just trying to avoid missile fire was all that thrilling until *01:05:01* Hobbes tackled the drone out of the sky. *01:05:08* But that's just my opinion on How did he know it was there? *01:05:10* It's a great question. *01:05:14* Timed it perfectly. *01:05:16* It's incredible. *01:05:18* It could have been a sec if he was a second behind or a second *01:05:19* Earlier, like just it doesn't work. *01:05:22* It's perfect. *01:05:24* Hops perfection. *01:05:26* What do you think, Ricky? *01:05:27* I mean I did think it was cool when Vin Diesel tries to hit *01:05:28* the helicopter with his car and then somehow attaches yes a satchel charge to the underside of the uh thing. *01:05:32* That is which is again another thing where like *01:05:38* How did his plan work out? *01:05:42* Was this his plan the whole time? *01:05:43* Because so much random stuff had to happen for it to h I mean, that's movies, but it was like so many things had to go your way for this to happen the way you planned it. *01:05:44* But yeah, that part was pretty I I think um *01:05:53* So the the car drop, uh, because a lot of that's practical effects, so that part is cool to me. *01:05:57* Um and then of course I really like that fight. *01:06:03* in the car with Brian and Tony Jaw, but a lot of that is because I love Tony Jaw. *01:06:06* Like unapologetically, he's one of my favorite martial artists. *01:06:11* So *01:06:15* Seeing him in action in his first Hollywood movie and then going too slow. *01:06:16* And then they have a call back to that later with him and Brian's second fight. *01:06:20* The whole second fight. *01:06:23* Between him, Brian and him. *01:06:25* I was like, this is going to end. *01:06:26* Brian will get the best of him and he will say, too slow. *01:06:28* I called it like three to five minutes before it happened. *01:06:31* And lo and behold, I was like, wow, I could write movies. *01:06:34* But it's a good moment, right? *01:06:38* Yeah. *01:06:40* Did you also call Brian's uh Cars Can't Fly callback? *01:06:41* Yeah. *01:06:44* Did you know that was gonna happen? *01:06:45* I did not. *01:06:46* So when you watch it again, you see you see Jack just throw it and you're like, oh my gosh, cars don't fly, buddy. *01:06:47* I'm like, oh yes, they do. *01:06:53* I think *01:06:57* The one thing that I think Seven is doing that the movies we watch so far have not done is tie a lot of scenes big set pieces together fluidly. *01:06:59* Yeah. *01:07:10* Flying cars to bus chase, to fight inside bus, to bus falling off cliff. *01:07:11* In the past, those would have all been separate pieces. *01:07:16* Bus falls off cliff, fight in building. *01:07:19* uh cars fly out of the sky would have been the big moment. *01:07:22* They tie all of that together seamlessly in this one big awesome great set piece. *01:07:25* The tower jump probably is the most isolated, but it's kind of like the little dash of a heist that previous movies have had where we do a full blind. *01:07:30* Even that one's got a lot of different parts though. *01:07:39* I know the *01:07:41* I know the tower jump sequence is the big moment, but it's got great it's got well it's got Roman being funny and being his normal usually uh usual like *01:07:42* His role in that, he's like, what am I supposed to do? *01:07:52* And they're like, just be yourself. *01:07:54* And he's like, okay. *01:07:55* Like, that's great. *01:07:57* Because that's what the audience wants too, is him being the comic relief in that moment. *01:07:58* And then you've got Letty off doing the fist fight stuff. *01:08:01* And then you got the *01:08:04* Carboys doing carboy things. *01:08:05* Like there's a there's different elements to that too, even though they're all separate, but it is one sequence too. *01:08:07* So *01:08:14* And then the the city chase part, the the helicopter and drone, you've you kind of touched on it, Logan. *01:08:15* I the it it sucks a little the wind out of the sails because *01:08:22* It is all there's not really a drone there, so that's all alleviated and just like it feels just like, eh, we're just killing time to get to certain moments. *01:08:26* I would have much preferred more fight between Dom and Deckard. *01:08:37* Like a more of that would have been preferred there or have Hobbes have *01:08:41* I don't know, Hobbes tackling a drone is pretty incredible. *01:08:45* So maybe maybe the if the drone was only there so Hobbes could tackle it, I guess it's all worth it. *01:08:47* But I do feel like that that whole set piece loses *01:08:53* uh a touch of reality that the rest of have. *01:08:58* Well what what Roman and Taj and Letty and them are doing in that scene is just *01:09:01* Kind of uninteresting. *01:09:06* Yeah, it's just them trying to play keep away. *01:09:08* Like that's all they're uh in the other scenes where like it's cars chasing cars or something like that, you don't know what's gonna happen. *01:09:11* Like you're like, okay, cool, they're *01:09:17* gaining on this bus in front of them, I wonder what's gonna happen. *01:09:19* Like you don't know what's gonna come next. *01:09:23* The other the stakes of the ending scene were differing because literally all they're trying to do is just *01:09:25* Just not die. *01:09:30* Yeah. *01:09:31* So it's a it's a little bit different. *01:09:32* I like the bus scene a lot, if we want to talk about that. *01:09:34* Starting with them dropping out of the plane, which is *01:09:39* I mean it's it's one of the more asinine things that has happened in all of these, which it's that's the that was the initial trailer for this one, wasn't it? *01:09:43* Yes. *01:09:52* Was that was the first trailer, was them in the back of the plane and then you see them falling out of the sky. *01:09:52* So I thought that I so I've been watching the behind the scenes and Ricky mentioned it earlier. *01:09:57* I did not know this, that these were practical effects. *01:10:03* They really did drop cars out of an airplane above a desert. *01:10:07* uh with parachutes and filmed it. *01:10:12* Sky divers jumped before and after each car with cameras on them and filmed them falling and then that's obviously implemented over. *01:10:15* To get the actors in the cars, they built a giant gimbal on a blue screen stage with uh the gimbal's all blue, and they put actors in the same car, the same type of car, and spun them around like a roller coaster. *01:10:23* them landing on the road, they were on a wire between two cranes that slid them down and then dropped them on the ground. *01:10:35* Like they tied all of this practically. *01:10:43* I never knew this. *01:10:46* And they totally *01:10:47* didn't. *01:10:49* Like, I think this scene would have looked just as fine if it was CG because for this movie's 2015, CG is pretty decent by now. *01:10:50* I don't think a lot of people would have *01:10:59* cared, but the fact that they are continuing to try to stick to practical effects is I just I just respect the commitment to it, honestly. *01:11:01* You uh really watching behind the scenes is almost cooler than watching the movie because you see these stunt guys come up with and cook how to make this possible. *01:11:11* Like can we even do this in with real things? *01:11:21* And they pull it off. *01:11:24* They're Oh my gosh. *01:11:25* And if you go to the bus chase *01:11:27* They're really flipping a bus on its side, sliding it down a mountain now not off the cliff after the slide. *01:11:30* They do push it off a cliff and film that later. *01:11:36* But the Brian climbing out of the bus and on top and running, all real. *01:11:39* The man has a wire on him to keep him safe, but he really is climbing from a bus upside down. *01:11:45* up and runs off the building and jumps off of it the whole as it's as it's falling. *01:11:53* Was that Paul Walker? *01:11:59* Did they shoot that before he died? *01:12:01* That that was a stunt. *01:12:02* That was a stunt double on top of the bus. *01:12:03* That that I don't think you would have put your star in that position. *01:12:05* But it's *01:12:11* I I didn't know the level of practicality in this scene before watching all this behind the scenes, and I just can't they really popped the back of the bus off. *01:12:12* It's all real. *01:12:22* And then there's the layer of CG over it to make it, you know, look the way it does. *01:12:24* It's just so cool. *01:12:28* And the next time I watch this movie, my brain the entire time is gonna be like, oh my gosh, they really did this. *01:12:30* You should watch the behind the scenes stuff before you watch these next time. *01:12:37* Mm maybe for Fate of the Furious because Furious Seven I really thought we'd kind of *01:12:41* let it sail on the practicality and we just embraced the CG future. *01:12:49* And so more of that wind out of the sails is kind of like, all right, they're not really falling out of the sky onto the road. *01:12:54* But they really are, to a certain degree, and it just blows my mind. *01:13:02* I wonder if they have to really pitch that to the studios on their end. *01:13:08* Like *01:13:12* Because you would have to imagine like the producers or whatever would just be like, dude, let's this is a great idea for a sequence, but let's just outsource it to a uh a CG company and have them put this together for us and we can get moving on and *01:13:12* I I I I don't know what the time commitment is to that stuff. *01:13:26* Maybe it's just as quick for them to shoot it practically. *01:13:29* And *01:13:32* Yeah, than it would be to give to an animation company and have them put something like that together. *01:13:33* Because that work doesn't just come out of thin air. *01:13:37* That's months of work at an animation studio. *01:13:40* Um but I do wonder what those conversations are like behind the scenes when they're deciding what should be practical and what's what should be uh CG. *01:13:43* Speaking of the bus scene, uh I think the thing I like the most about the bus scene is that Brian in his final film here just straight up transforms into Nathan Drake. *01:13:52* That's what he is this whole movie. *01:14:04* He he does a full transformation into Nathan Drake, Indiana Jones, climbing underneath the bus, climbing the whole bus scene where he's climbing outside of it, like *01:14:06* I was like, okay, somebody's played Uncharted 2. *01:14:17* Like, this is exactly what this is. *01:14:20* Uh there's a lot of things. *01:14:22* There's a lot of Uncharted energy here. *01:14:23* Yes, there is. *01:14:25* Yeah. *01:14:26* And they totally make Brian feel that *01:14:27* He he's he's totally that character in this, uh, which I loved. *01:14:30* And again, we'll talk about it in a second, but I would have been very interested to see his growth in the other movies because they wrote him out in this movie and they did so *01:14:34* in a way that I think makes sense. *01:14:44* But I do wonder what they he would have obviously kept coming back in the other ones. *01:14:45* Sure. *01:14:49* Yeah. *01:14:50* Yeah. *01:14:50* But we'll talk about that in just a sec. *01:14:51* Um *01:14:54* I do have to say the one ending point of the bus scene, I don't we don't have to talk about this a long time, but why does Dom. *01:14:55* Drive off a cliff when it's established that he's in a bulletproof car and he could probably just blast through him and take off. *01:15:05* He's like, No, my plan is I will drive off a cliff. *01:15:12* This is better than me driving through bullets. *01:15:16* Which it's already established, I can just kind of take shots on my car and I'll be okay and I just didn't understand why he chose to drive off a cliff other than for my own personal enjoyment of going, Whoa, a car drove off a cliff *01:15:19* Like there was nothing that made any sense about it. *01:15:34* But it was fun to watch a car tumble down a cliff. *01:15:37* Yeah. *01:15:40* You're not wrong, but they did they were like, oh, that went to plan. *01:15:41* It's a good thing we made that car, baby. *01:15:45* So but I yeah, I mean I don't know. *01:15:47* He just drives off a cliff and then he's totally fine. *01:15:50* It's just weird how yeah, that's another thing where it's like *01:15:53* W this was your why was this your plan? *01:15:55* And also how did you know you were gonna be at this point on a cliff that you needed to drive off of it? *01:15:57* Yes. *01:16:02* But I guess that's just a bit of a big thing. *01:16:02* I figured if you just wanted the hybrid demon car. *01:16:03* Just in a general sense. *01:16:07* I mean who wouldn't and that. *01:16:09* Yeah. *01:16:11* I figured he just wanted it for the purposes of having it. *01:16:11* I I didn't think he was thinking ahead of oh I'm gonna drive off a cliff. *01:16:15* It'll be good for me to have this. *01:16:19* So I I think someone says it. *01:16:21* I think someone's like, oh, perfectly to plan or something like that. *01:16:22* I think he says it when he says something when he gets out of it to that effect. *01:16:26* Yeah. *01:16:29* Yeah, I don't know if I have anything else to say about the *01:16:30* Action sequences relate again, they're all really well done. *01:16:33* Oh, I was gonna say I did just notice in my notes, I forgot about this, that I wrote that I do have a special place in my heart for that. *01:16:37* lightsaber fight as you described it. *01:16:44* Yes. *01:16:45* That was one other thing I wanted to bring up. *01:16:46* Yes. *01:16:48* Thank you. *01:16:48* So there's a point in it where I can't remember which character does it, but they jump off of a bumper of the car and then elbow drop somebody. *01:16:49* And I watched a kid do that after a basketball game in high school. *01:16:55* So do that exact move, jump off a bumper vacuum. *01:16:59* Yeah, pretty much. *01:17:01* And it would have been before the movie came out. *01:17:02* Because this movie came out I was in grad school, so *01:17:04* well before. *01:17:07* He just jumped off the bumper of a car and then came like some this person was not they were not actively in a fight. *01:17:08* He like ran up behind him. *01:17:14* Off the bumper, elbow drop on his back, and then they fought. *01:17:16* Did you go to high school with James Wan? *01:17:22* Did he see that move and then tuck it away in his brain for memory later? *01:17:24* Not that I know of, but *01:17:29* I mean maybe he did because there were some wild fights where I went to high school. *01:17:30* People love to get busy. *01:17:33* Whoa. *01:17:37* That's a weird way to say that. *01:17:37* Whoa. *01:17:39* That's a weird way to say that. *01:17:39* I just like that they keep making callbacks *01:17:41* to Dom beating up somebody with a wrench in the first movie and talking about how he went to jail for that once. *01:17:44* And then when he gets in a fight here, his weapon of choice is a wrench to again beat somebody with. *01:17:51* They just keep having him pull out wrenches all the time that beat people up. *01:17:57* Yeah, that's weird. *01:18:01* Oh, uh one other thing that we did not mention before this is not an action scene. *01:18:03* But I did want to touch on Tokyo as well. *01:18:08* I just wrote down I wanted to make sure and ask you what what did you think about seeing Sean again? *01:18:10* Uh jarring. *01:18:16* This man looks old. *01:18:17* This man looks very old. *01:18:20* It's even more jarring that they splice in j *01:18:22* footage from Tokyo Drift two seconds before and then they cut and then he's old. *01:18:25* They do the best they can obviously, right? *01:18:32* They do, but I don't know if only wrinkles. *01:18:34* I don't know if they needed to splice in the Tokyo Dri *01:18:36* Drift footage. *01:18:39* They did. *01:18:40* It's clear that they were trying to tell the audience, hey, this is this is where we are in the timeline now. *01:18:41* Like that's why they did it. *01:18:49* But *01:18:52* Boy howdy did it make Sean's actual appearance that much more strange two seconds later. *01:18:52* I mean Ricky, you got *01:18:59* You saw this in theaters when it came out, right? *01:19:02* Right. *01:19:04* Ha were you as hyped as I was just seeing Tokyo drift back on the big screen even just for the Oh, yeah, of course. *01:19:05* Oh my gosh. *01:19:11* I mean that is yeah, that's the best one *01:19:12* I mean, this is the best movie, but that's my favorite one, if that makes sense. *01:19:14* Yeah. *01:19:18* Oh my gosh, I was losing my mind. *01:19:19* Just the fact that they again they acknowledge it was just Yes. *01:19:20* Yeah. *01:19:25* It's like, yes, we know this movie exists, thank you. *01:19:25* And that they tie it back in. *01:19:28* It's yeah, it's cool. *01:19:30* It's really cool how they do it. *01:19:32* Him going there *01:19:33* They do that thing, Logan, that we like narratively, where they don't show us the race because we already know how it's gonna go down. *01:19:35* Yes. *01:19:41* Yeah, and it's like Han he you know, he's like, I didn't know Han was into American muscle. *01:19:44* He was when he was rolling with me. *01:19:49* Like there's just these great lines of just mmm, mmm. *01:19:50* That's what I *01:19:55* love when they do these callbacks and it works so well. *01:19:56* It is jarring to see him older. *01:19:59* And he's not in he's not in it a lot. *01:20:02* No, it's a quick scene in the huge. *01:20:05* It's just what you want. *01:20:06* It's like just the right level of fan service *01:20:07* I would like more Lucas Black and you think so. *01:20:11* Oh my gosh. *01:20:14* I was thinking we were gonna get Bow Wow showing up too. *01:20:14* I was thinking Tweaky Twinkie might show up. *01:20:16* There was one more thing about the story that I wanted to mention was the one-liners. *01:20:19* I think this movie has the best one-liners across the board. *01:20:24* From Hobbes, Dom. *01:20:28* Yeah, we *01:20:31* There's just so many good lines in this movie from Daddy's Gotta Go to Work, uh, Woman I Am the Cavalry, uh, You Just Earned Yourself a Dance with the Devil Boy. *01:20:32* Those were all Hobbes quotes, but Logan, there's one line in this movie that I've been dying for you to hear in its context. *01:20:43* You may have seen it online or whatever. *01:20:52* Is it the family one? *01:20:54* No, no, no, no, no, no. *01:20:55* No, no. *01:20:56* The street fight line. *01:20:57* You thought this was gonna be a street fight, and then he shoots his shotgun in the air and grabs these wretches? *01:20:59* And then says that in so many words that he is right. *01:21:07* But then after the helicopter shoots the parking garage, and it's cracking its way over to the *01:21:11* The thing about street fights, the street always wins. *01:21:20* And he then stops on the ground. *01:21:24* And Deckard is swallowed whole. *01:21:27* What *01:21:30* Probably my favorite line in Fast and Furious history. *01:21:31* Just the street fight the street always wins. *01:21:34* I I don't know what other lines you guys like, but this movie I think it the too slow line *01:21:36* I think this movie is packed and they all work. *01:21:43* All the one-liners I obviously pick up on are the ones from the dumb family memes. *01:21:47* So Dom saying I don't have friends, I got family. *01:21:53* I'm like, oh the meme. *01:21:58* There it is. *01:22:00* Like I always pick up on those just because I've seen those in front of my eyes so many times before I've watched any of these. *01:22:01* You guys have seen these more, so I I can obviously not recite the one-liners to you back. *01:22:07* Uh Daddy's Gotta Go to Work is the one that I do remember and that was the best because it's followed up by him breaking out of a cast, which is just hilarious. *01:22:12* So *01:22:24* Yeah. *01:22:25* I'm I've pulled up IMDB, you know. *01:22:26* Even the even the softer ones, you know, the why didn't you tell me we were married? *01:22:28* You can't tell someone they love you. *01:22:33* Like ah, that gets you right there. *01:22:35* I'm like *01:22:36* Yes, she's a very good Tom. *01:22:37* I did like um like even I don't obviously she's not a very good actor, but even Rhonda Rousey's one line was not bad. *01:22:39* Oh the uh I would have that charming. *01:22:46* Oh, I guess she has more than one line. *01:22:50* The one where she speaks a Arabic? *01:22:52* No. *01:22:54* There's the part where Letty goes, Would you believe I knocked him out with my charm? *01:22:55* And she goes, You're not that charming, and then some extra words. *01:22:59* But there's also that part, it's not really a quip, I guess, but I do have it written down where uh I think it's when Missande, I was trying to think of a real name and I can't remember it, and then I couldn't remember her name in the movie. *01:23:04* Ramsey where she wakes up *01:23:14* From after falling down the car or down the mountain and Brian goes, Did you hit your head? *01:23:18* Oh the sick. *01:23:22* Do you have a concussion? *01:23:23* Yeah, do you have a concussion? *01:23:25* It's like *01:23:27* What is wrong with you? *01:23:28* D Dom's saying time to unleash the beast and then drives a car out of a building. *01:23:29* Come on. *01:23:34* That one before that is like *01:23:36* You can't keep a beast in a cage. *01:23:38* Yeah, like his face during that whole scene is awesome. *01:23:40* I just I think the one-liners, they've really honed it in in this movie. *01:23:44* That's so, so good. *01:23:49* We need to talk about Paul Walker, but there is one other character that we did not bring up that I have to bring up, and it's Letty. *01:23:51* Letty is the one other person we have not talked about, and I feel like we have to because they did the one thing in this movie that I did not want them to do, which is oh, I suddenly remember everything. *01:23:59* That was the one *01:24:12* Aspect six that I liked. *01:24:13* I liked that they did not have her memory magically come back to her in that movie, and it kind of *01:24:16* They folded her back into a fi the family and she was part of the family again, but it was a new version of herself and she was, you know, gonna try to I mean these were her friends and her family or whatever and *01:24:22* She was gonna stick with them even though she didn't remember the previous times they had together, but that didn't bother her, and they were gonna still start fresh from there. *01:24:33* I like that. *01:24:41* And then in this movie she's, ah, I can't remember anything. *01:24:42* It's now driving me nuts. *01:24:45* And then she magically remembers everything. *01:24:46* It's a uh her arc sucks. *01:24:48* It's terrible in this movie. *01:24:50* I did not like it *01:24:52* I don't know if you guys have anything to say about that, but I just had to get that off my chest. *01:24:54* Because they undid it all. *01:24:58* I knew you were gonna have a problem with it. *01:25:01* And then the deleted scenes that I watched, two of them involved Letty like going back trying to find out who she was. *01:25:04* So I do think part of that story got cut. *01:25:10* I liked the racewar thing because that was just Dom trying to get her to remember and then she's having like uh like Ricky said, PTSD at racewars. *01:25:13* Punches Hector. *01:25:23* But her memory laughs about it. *01:25:25* Yeah. *01:25:28* Her memory coming back at Dom's fake death was like, ah, this is the *01:25:28* kiss the princess and they they wake up, right? *01:25:35* That's the kind of moment. *01:25:37* It's not CPR saves his life. *01:25:39* It's it's love and family. *01:25:41* So that's the the overarching cheesiness of it all. *01:25:42* I personally *01:25:46* I'm a softie, I suppose. *01:25:48* I like that they refer back to Fast and Furious, and they reveal to us all that they were seek they serially got married that night. *01:25:50* Which once again goes back to Fast and Furious and kind of retroactively adds some texture there. *01:26:00* Um not that it's like surprising or anything. *01:26:05* Of course Dom and Letty were always together, married or not. *01:26:08* But I like her ki gaining it back and like I said, I like his lying to her that you can't tell somebody they love you. *01:26:12* I think that you know, that's nice or whatever. *01:26:19* I mean she was falling in love with him, memories or not, anyway. *01:26:21* It was clear they were spending time together. *01:26:24* Um but they do the magic trick of my memory is back. *01:26:26* That's what I did not like, is that it was already establishing that they were becoming closer to one another again, even though Dom remembered everything that she didn't, but that wasn't preventing her from getting close to him and liking him again like *01:26:29* I like that dynamic. *01:26:41* It was good. *01:26:42* It was like she was falling for him again even though she did not remember everything. *01:26:42* And I don't know. *01:26:47* Like *01:26:48* We talked in with the Fast Six conversation about how it was so cliched for the plot of that movie to be somebody has amnesia and they can't remember anything. *01:26:49* And the ultimate cliche to top off that cliched plot arc is to the *01:26:57* Then have the person magically gain all their memories back. *01:27:01* And they didn't do that, which is why I thought Fast Six was good. *01:27:04* They just saved it for another movie later, which is bad. *01:27:07* Let's talk about Paul Walker dying. *01:27:13* And being a CGI man for some of this film as well. *01:27:16* Have a little respect. *01:27:20* Which is an aspect of it. *01:27:22* I I'm being respectful. *01:27:23* I *01:27:25* I I'm talking about the things I want to talk about with just how his death affected this movie and then his inevitable send-off there at the end. *01:27:25* Because I I mean I'm talking about him being a CGI man. *01:27:32* I'm bringing that up because I think they *01:27:36* They did well in this movie. *01:27:38* Like, especially compared to freaking Rise of Skywalker with like how *01:27:41* uh what's uh with Carrie Fisher's inclusion in that movie and that just being atrocious. *01:27:47* Uh seeing how they handled his death in this movie and still including him in the movie and *01:27:53* Like it was obvious the parts where he was a CGI man, but it wasn't so poorly done. *01:27:58* Like I they did a good job even with those instances, is I guess what I'm saying. *01:28:05* Um and they tried to smartly film around it. *01:28:10* Like it was obvious which scenes he was actually in and which ones he was not, because he was always *01:28:14* like n out of the shot of the larger group's dynamic. *01:28:21* Like he you know he's in the scene somewhere, but they're not the camera's not focused on him. *01:28:26* intentionally. *01:28:31* And so you knew what scenes he was actually in, which ones he wasn't, but it wasn't distracting or anything like that. *01:28:32* And that was my fear coming into this. *01:28:38* uh knowing that he died halfway through production is that it would be very awkward and very heavy handed. *01:28:40* And I think really the way that they handled *01:28:48* His entire involvement with the film and finishing the film, even though he died halfway through, was really well done. *01:28:50* And then the send-off is its own larger talking point we can have, but even that was great. *01:28:55* Like I I was really impressed with just the whole *01:29:01* movie. *01:29:04* Yeah, I mean, look, I am not like the biggest Paul Walker fan. *01:29:06* Like I said before, Brian's definitely not my favorite character or anything. *01:29:12* But even from like almost the very start of the movie, they just it gets me every time because there's a there's a line where they're at the funeral and *01:29:16* Uh Tyrese says to Brian, he said, I I'm mixing Roman says to Brian, promise me Brian, no more funerals. *01:29:25* Like even from that moment, I'm like, oh *01:29:32* Oh my gosh, like filming this. *01:29:34* I think it's I think part of it is like thinking about having to do that. *01:29:36* Having to go film a movie. *01:29:40* The after your friend died, you know, and like cause these people are friends, except for the rock and Vin Diesel, I guess. *01:29:42* But um *01:29:49* But you know, and then like they use I don't uh we'll probably talk about this a little bit, or at least I will in favorite cars, but they use his that's his car he owns at the end, uh that Supra. *01:29:50* Um *01:30:01* So I don't know. *01:30:02* I just like every time. *01:30:03* I mean I've seen this movie, like I said, like 15 times now, and every time I'm not like ball and crying, but I'm like sad, which is weird for an actor or a person I don't like I don't *01:30:04* It wasn't like Paul Walker affected my life in any way. *01:30:14* You weren't rushing to the theater to see eight below. *01:30:17* Yeah. *01:30:20* I mean it's not like it's not like a grandparent dying or something that you should cry about, but like *01:30:20* For some reason this movie is the one that gets me every time. *01:30:26* And I think it's just the thought of them, you know, losing their friend and then still having to film it and then going on with the the whole thing. *01:30:30* I don't know. *01:30:38* Yeah. *01:30:39* Yeah, but I th I think they do a good job and I think they do a good job throughout the whole thing of like I don't know setting up how *01:30:39* emotional it's gonna be at the end, I guess. *01:30:48* To cut in real quick before you say something, Max, I that stood out to me too. *01:30:50* The scenes I mentioned before where he was clearly in the scene, but not in the scene, but the other actors were, it really struck me *01:30:54* In those instances, like wow, like how hard what must it have been for the other actors to know, like, okay, Brian's in this scene, we're gonna shoot it like this, and it's like yeah. *01:31:02* That has to be so *01:31:11* difficult for to know that you're shooting scenes where a certain character is present but no one is there. *01:31:13* I know I know his like brothers filled in to play him or something like that throughout the movie. *01:31:19* Yeah, but it still must have been so *01:31:24* difficult to film scenes as Dominic Toretto with Brian and the guy playing Brian is not there, but you still have to act all the same. *01:31:26* Like that that really stood out to me as well. *01:31:37* Yeah. *01:31:41* I so I I do ball like a baby, um I can't help it. *01:31:42* Um *01:31:49* It's really hard every time. *01:31:51* I d we said this last time, Logan. *01:31:52* They established Brian becoming a family man in six, and that helps this tremendously. *01:31:55* Yeah. *01:32:01* Um *01:32:01* D from the perspective of getting Brian back in the game, like the whole he misses the bullets, which I think uh helps also write him out is this severity of it's not the cars or the girls, it's the bullets. *01:32:03* Um *01:32:15* And then having another kid. *01:32:16* I don't know if the kid was written originally, like maybe. *01:32:18* Push it up. *01:32:27* It it's possible. *01:32:29* I'm getting ready to have a girl. *01:32:30* They have a girl, so this time around I'm a wreck again. *01:32:32* And the phone call between Mia and him, again. *01:32:36* I feel like that was originally part of the script, because they already were tying in the whole th- I don't know. *01:32:42* It feels like it was originally a part of it, not written later. *01:32:48* But that always gets me to the don't say it like that, you know, kiss Jack for me. *01:32:51* So and that's already right before the finale where then they really punch in the gut with the beach and the driving off. *01:32:57* And then I *01:33:04* I'm a mess. *01:33:05* Um and so this time around again the whole dad thing just hit a little harder, but the one thing that I've always *01:33:06* said when talking with friends and stuff about it uh when it came out to today is the closing monologue isn't Dom talking to Brian, it's it's Vin Diesel talking to Paul *01:33:15* Yeah. *01:33:28* And you can hear it and it just it gets me. *01:33:28* And you know, we'll t we'll talk about it I think in the soundtrack, but the see you again *01:33:32* Having those artists come in when you hear whiz Khalifa and is the other guy like Charlie Pooth or something. *01:33:38* Yeah. *01:33:45* When you hear that you're like, oh, how can this be whatever? *01:33:46* They're the big pops pop and rap stars or whatever. *01:33:49* But I think that's on f *01:33:53* really hit super hard and having them drive the way that I just man it it kills me every time. *01:33:55* I think they really *01:34:02* rode him out with grace and respected him and his legacy in this franchise and *01:34:04* You know, going on from here on out, obviously there are other movies, but they're never quite the same without him, even if maybe you're not the biggest fan of him, like Ricky has said earlier, like his character. *01:34:12* Oh, okay. *01:34:24* I was gonna say I'd not I don't dislike Paul Walker. *01:34:25* He's just this character of Brian. *01:34:28* Yeah. *01:34:30* Ricky's come to this podcast to disparage the Walker estate. *01:34:31* I don't dislike Brian. *01:34:35* He's just not my favorite. *01:34:37* He's he's like the everyman, you know. *01:34:38* And to me, the everyman is often the most boring person. *01:34:41* Yeah. *01:34:44* They're not bad. *01:34:45* He's no Han Solo, you know what I mean? *01:34:45* Sure. *01:34:48* Well, Max, you and I had talked about previously, like, he has very much been fast and furious more than Vin has been up until this point. *01:34:48* Like he's in I mean, because he's in too fast, and I know Vin has his little *01:34:58* cameo at the end of Tokyo Drift, but Brian has been the main character that all these movies have largely kind of hinged around to some degree up until them writing him out here. *01:35:02* Yeah. *01:35:14* The montage at the end has two fast, two furious shots in it. *01:35:14* It it's kind of the it's in the same vein as the montage at the start of six, but that's everyone in the first *01:35:18* five movies at that point. *01:35:25* And this is just Paul in all the movies he's in. *01:35:26* And Adam they do a really, I think, a fantastic job *01:35:29* Honoring him and and doing this for him. *01:35:33* And for James Wand for this to be his one and only movie, but *01:35:36* To be the movie to direct it. *01:35:41* I was gonna say talk about tough I mean he had tough shoes to feel coming in for Justin Lynn, and then one of your main actors dies halfway through production, and then like *01:35:42* Yeah, hats off to him, dude, for coming in and I mean the movie's fun and it's great in its own right, but then you have to juggle all those other things in the midst of it. *01:35:52* It's really impressive. *01:36:00* Yeah. *01:36:02* I have to say *01:36:03* I just don't like the song that much. *01:36:05* I think Charlie Poof's parts are very good. *01:36:09* Dude, I don't like Whiz Khalifa. *01:36:12* Every time I hear this song, I'm like, man, this is really hitting me. *01:36:14* And then Wiz Khalifa comes in and starts rapping. *01:36:17* I'm like, oh, you took me right out of it. *01:36:19* Took me right out of it. *01:36:21* Interesting. *01:36:22* I don't like Wiz Khalifa's parts. *01:36:23* I just don't like how he his cadence as he raps *01:36:24* If that makes any sense. *01:36:28* Similar to how you dislike Tyler the creator and his cadence and how he sounds. *01:36:29* I just don't Wizcleaf is a mumble rapper. *01:36:33* I don't think he's very uh *01:36:36* He's monotone. *01:36:38* He's got like no emotion in his voice really. *01:36:39* He's just kind of Sure. *01:36:42* Yeah. *01:36:44* And my rap education was Khalifa was a part of that when I started getting into rap at like 17, 18 years old. *01:36:45* So *01:36:51* I'm Taylor, like I've been groomed to like his music. *01:36:52* Yeah. *01:36:57* So it works for me. *01:36:57* I'm curious *01:36:59* For you, Logan, obviously this song was a massive success. *01:37:01* It was on the radio, it was everywhere. *01:37:04* So I'm curious how that imp like if if it had any impact for you at the end there *01:37:08* W Ricky and I saw it originally in the context of the film. *01:37:14* So every time I hear this song, I think of Paul in the end of this movie, and it really hits hard. *01:37:17* Yeah, that's not how it is for me, unfortunately. *01:37:25* Uh I I I I mentioned this before, but I'd obviously watched the final scene before out of curiosity, even just as a casual *01:37:28* moviegoer who knew what was going on with this movie. *01:37:37* I was like, oh I want to see. *01:37:41* I've never watched any of these movies, but I know he's a big part of these. *01:37:42* I'm kind of curious to see how they wrote him out and what his whole tribute there at the end was. *01:37:44* So I had seen this before, so um, but it was separate from the two and a half hours that precedes the final scene. *01:37:49* Um and then yeah, the song just really the song to me is uh *01:37:57* Yeah, it's that one annoying song that played on the radio all the dang time. *01:38:03* I really don't like I don't hate the song. *01:38:07* I I think that all the Charlie Pooth parts are very good and it's well sung and it's a well put together song. *01:38:10* I just think *01:38:15* When you're trying to create a song, I don't know, make making a song that's supposed to have a deep *01:38:18* meaningful sort of impact about death and life and then you bring in a mumble wrapper, j I don't know, it just didn't doesn't work for me, I guess. *01:38:27* And that's not to say rappers can't rap about serious things or have emotional songs or things that resonate with people emotionally. *01:38:36* I mean, Lord knows. *01:38:43* There's uh half a dozen Kendrick songs I could r rattle off right now that have an impact on me emotionally to some degree. *01:38:45* But yeah, I I don't know. *01:38:50* I I I associate this with *01:38:52* the song they would not stop playing on the summer of twenty fifteen on the radio. *01:38:53* Back when I used to listen to the radio more often. *01:38:58* So yeah. *01:39:01* Apparently see you again combining sales and track equivalent streams. *01:39:02* Oh, it's one of the biggest songs of all time, I think. *01:39:07* It's like twenty point nine million units. *01:39:09* according to IFPI. *01:39:12* It was the best-selling Psalm of 2015 worldwide. *01:39:14* So yeah, they *01:39:18* Yeah, take that Logan. *01:39:19* Yeah. *01:39:21* This is good. *01:39:22* This is good stuff, Logan. *01:39:23* You're wrong. *01:39:24* I mean, we can look it up here. *01:39:26* I'm curious to see how many streams it has, like on Spotify. *01:39:28* Uh it's got 1. *01:39:31* 4 billion streams. *01:39:32* Holy smokes. *01:39:34* And that's just Spotify. *01:39:36* I mean, we mentioned on our other podcast that we do Model Citizen. *01:39:37* Or no, Max's monthly music mission. *01:39:41* recently that we were all astounded by uh in the end having like 1. *01:39:43* 3 or 1. *01:39:48* 2 billion listens on Spotify. *01:39:49* This is almost at 1. *01:39:51* 5. *01:39:52* So yeah, it's a very big song. *01:39:53* Yeah, I think overall I am *01:39:55* concerned with seeing what the fast franchise is going to be without Paul Walker, but I am glad with how they ended things for him. *01:39:58* Um, but yeah, unlike Ricky, he was a he was one of the things I very much loved about these movies. *01:40:08* And I think uh especially the dynamic between him and Dom. *01:40:14* So without that being around, I am *01:40:18* Kind of concerned for eight and nine, but I guess we'll see. *01:40:20* Especially since Hobbes is near. *01:40:23* That's the th We kind of lose two bromances in this movie. *01:40:25* Unless are is Hobbes in eight? *01:40:29* Hobbs is in A. *01:40:31* Okay. *01:40:33* So that's going to dissolve itself outside the confines of these movies, and then obviously Paul Walker's death here, so *01:40:39* By the time we get to nine, Vin Diesel's gonna be on an island with no Bros around himself anymore, which is maybe why they're putting Jason Momoa in. *01:40:45* fast axe in some. *01:40:54* That's true, but I kind of consider them more uh *01:40:58* them more Brian's boys. *01:41:02* I don't know if that's just me, but that's what they are. *01:41:04* That's what Too Fast has done to my brain. *01:41:07* I'm like, oh these are these are these are Brian's dudes. *01:41:09* These aren't Dom just these are just some guys that Dom's puts up with, but those are Brian's boys. *01:41:12* This means that my plan for too fast to stick with you has worked. *01:41:18* This is very It has worked. *01:41:22* It has worked. *01:41:24* Okay, let's talk about best car. *01:41:25* And then we'll get to closing up here. *01:41:27* What is the best car? *01:41:29* Ricky, you go first. *01:41:32* What do you think? *01:41:34* I think I mean as I mentioned, I think the *01:41:35* Super that is actually Paul Walker's Supra being in the movie is cool. *01:41:38* Uh personally though *01:41:43* I'm a sucker for scissor doors, which means that I like Brian's McLaren spider that they're driving in Saudi Arabia. *01:41:46* You barely see it, but when those doors open, whew, I get hot and bothered. *01:41:56* I'm a big fan. *01:42:03* I don't know. *01:42:04* Something about doors. *01:42:04* I don't know what it is. *01:42:06* I love them. *01:42:07* That whole Abu Dhabi lineup, honestly, I wish it was a little bit more. *01:42:08* There's a Viper in that lineup too. *01:42:12* I know. *01:42:13* I knew you would notice that. *01:42:14* That is not my favorite though. *01:42:17* Yeah. *01:42:19* I'm the Abu Dhabi lineup is is very clean. *01:42:19* Does Roman have the Bugatti there too? *01:42:23* Yeah. *01:42:25* Yeah. *01:42:26* And the Bugatti's there. *01:42:27* Uh that's another one up there. *01:42:28* I have to say the Lycan Hypersport was almost the cover art for this episode, but it was pretty expensive. *01:42:30* An expensive Hot Wheel. *01:42:38* Uh the cover art is actually Dom's uh demon love child between this and that, which is his offer charger that drops from the sky. *01:42:40* I like the look of this car. *01:42:49* It's cool and comedic. *01:42:51* It's not my favorite though. *01:42:54* I I probably would lean toward the lichen simply it's red, it's lean, it's mean. *01:42:57* But whatever that yellow car is in the Abu Dhabi lineup, I also could go for. *01:43:02* I can't I don't see it like listed. *01:43:08* That is a dodge viper. *01:43:10* The viper is the black car next to it. *01:43:12* The yellow car is not viper. *01:43:15* It's a dodge viper, I think. *01:43:16* I thought the yellow one is the dodge viper. *01:43:18* Mm-mm. *01:43:20* The Viper's the black car. *01:43:21* That I can tell. *01:43:23* It is it is, it is, it is. *01:43:24* I can tell. *01:43:25* The yellow car, I do not know what it is, but I would I would pick the yellow car. *01:43:26* I think that isn't that a Lamborghini symbol there on the front though? *01:43:32* There's that little it looks like the horse, but with just without the or sorry, not Lamborghini, I mean the Ferrari logo. *01:43:36* It looks like it looks like a golden horse on the front of it is a it is a yellow Ferrari. *01:43:43* That's what I thought. *01:43:52* So yeah, I'm partial to that. *01:43:53* I love the this is the one Tez drives. *01:43:55* So I just I like yellow uh whisky, but black and yellow, black and yellow. *01:43:59* So *01:44:05* I do like that. *01:44:06* Where this article's a failure. *01:44:08* It's too many ads. *01:44:10* I'm looking at the Dodge Viper and it's really enticing me here. *01:44:12* I gotta stop looking at it. *01:44:15* Max, you said the two that I was a big fan of, which I felt strange. *01:44:17* I mean, if I'm gonna say a real car, I mean it's probably the Viper is my favorite real car in this *01:44:21* Like in hypersport, pretty sick though. *01:44:27* It's a real car. *01:44:31* It's just not real. *01:44:32* I know, but like it's like a super car that's *01:44:33* I'm talking like just r real cars that make an appearance in this movie. *01:44:37* I mean, not saying that Lycan's fake, but it's *01:44:42* a CGI car jumping out of towers in this movie predominantly. *01:44:46* Unless you're gonna tell me they act like practically they practically jump between towers *01:44:50* They practically rebuilt the set of those towers and crashed through glass and windows, yes. *01:44:55* Also blowing my mind. *01:45:02* Again, they do it with a like in hypersport. *01:45:03* No, they made ten replicas. *01:45:06* No, they actually do drop it from a crane to the ground and film that. *01:45:08* And they had Stephen jump out of a car that was on his own. *01:45:13* Oh not the real one, no. *01:45:18* Oh my gosh, no. *01:45:20* I was just like that's a three point four million dollar. *01:45:21* Hey Universal, we gotta expense a lichen hypersport to destroy. *01:45:24* So I c I I was surprised at that too, man. *01:45:28* They *01:45:32* They just go really hard on the practicality. *01:45:33* Yeah, I mean I'll say the default answer and say the like and then. *01:45:36* I mean it is the most *01:45:40* Pred i it is the s most predominant car that I think appears in this movie, the most eye-catching car, I guess we'll say. *01:45:43* I mean, have you seen those doors on the McLaren? *01:45:50* I do like those doors on the McLaren. *01:45:53* I I do agree with you. *01:45:55* Those are pretty good. *01:45:56* I actually I think the lichen also has scissor doors. *01:45:57* But the lichen also has it because when they jump out of it, they throw them up and they *01:46:00* Shootout. *01:46:04* Is that what they're doing? *01:46:05* I thought they were trying to like use wind resistance to slow it down. *01:46:06* But eventually they do have to jump out. *01:46:10* Yeah. *01:46:14* Okay, well cool. *01:46:15* Those are the best cars. *01:46:16* Before we go to legacy, one quick thing. *01:46:18* We touched on see you again, but I did want to give a shout out to the rest of the soundtrack for this film because the whole soundtrack is pretty darn good. *01:46:20* actually. *01:46:29* That's obviously the main song, but there's a lot of other good songs mixed in throughout this. *01:46:31* And I was like, oh yeah, baby, taking me back to *01:46:36* college years 2015 with all the with the isn't there a Skrillex song mixed in in this soundtrack, I believe. *01:46:39* Flow Riders in there. *01:46:46* Juicy J, Wiz Khalifa. *01:46:48* The TI song at the s at the top is good. *01:46:50* When they're going into uh Race Wars. *01:46:53* Yeah, the whole s this this was the first one in quite some time where I'm like, all right, baby, this soundtrack is bumping throughout the whole movie. *01:46:56* First time since like Too Fast that this has been the case. *01:47:03* Or I guess Tokyo Drift, the last one was good too. *01:47:05* Uh of the newer age fast movies, this was kind of the first one that really *01:47:09* Hit me in that way. *01:47:14* So Yeah, I don't know if anybody else has anything to say about that, but not only just the soundtrack, but I think the score is really coming in its own. *01:47:16* Brian Tyler, again, he's done most of these movies at this point, but the themes *01:47:23* for these characters, I think have started to really stick with the audience. *01:47:27* Letty and Dom's theme, Brian's just like agent prep kind of music. *01:47:32* Like they *01:47:37* Like when the team assembles, those types of themes and stuff really are starting to stand on their own, and you know the cues and stuff that they've had. *01:47:38* They're fully formed by this point, I think. *01:47:46* So all around. *01:47:48* Very good soundtrack and score. *01:47:50* Mm-hmm. *01:47:52* Let's wrap it up. *01:47:54* Uh I feel like this one is a very obvious no-duh one, and maybe there's not a lot for us to even talk about. *01:47:55* In regards to legacy for Furious Seven, Paul Walker, I mean that's kind of that's it. *01:48:03* Yeah. *01:48:10* I I don't know how much else there is to say. *01:48:11* I mean the other legacy is that it's a very good film and the rock breaks out of a cast and then he tackles a drone. *01:48:13* So it it's it's weird because it it does have this very *01:48:20* There's this serious level to this movie with everything surrounding Paul Walker and his death and his send-off, but then it's that's buried at the end of this movie that is just inherently so, so stupid. *01:48:24* Uh-huh. *01:48:38* And so it's it's it's I I've called this movie hilarious throughout this entire podcast. *01:48:38* And even that dynamic at the very end, it's like almost a yakuza. *01:48:45* I was about to say it's like the Yakuza of movies. *01:48:48* It is like the Yakuza of films, yes. *01:48:51* Where it's just this inherently very, very dumb thing that you're watching and then it decides to get you in your feels. *01:48:53* They're at the very last second. *01:49:01* So it but it does a good job of balancing all of that. *01:49:03* And I think I don't know. *01:49:06* Like Paul Walker's death. *01:49:08* Anybody who's watching this movie, I'm going to imagine, knows that Paul Walker died. *01:49:09* In real life. *01:49:13* And if they don't, then they definitely do by the end. *01:49:14* Mm-hmm. *01:49:18* So yes, Paul is the de facto legacy of this film. *01:49:19* Outside of that, and for the Fast and Furious franchise on the whole, this is the movie where we get the quote unquote real Shaw. *01:49:24* Like the Shaw brothers are in six, but *01:49:33* Deckard Shaw comes into his own year and has an impact on the franchise on the whole. *01:49:37* Like I said earlier, one the only spin-off film. *01:49:44* He's a titular character in that, along with Hobbs. *01:49:47* Like it's *01:49:50* That is a huge factor going forward as far as his character and and Jason Statham's performance and impact on this series. *01:49:52* So I that's another part of the legacy. *01:49:59* And *01:50:03* James Wan is one and only. *01:50:05* I mean, this is the first movie without Justin Lynn in a very long time, and it does well, so it shows that Justin isn't the only kind of *01:50:07* The only director that can make a killer Fast and Furious movie. *01:50:18* And Furious Seven is a pound for pound a killer movie. *01:50:21* Yeah. *01:50:25* There's also several of the *01:50:26* uh side characters get introduced who stay like part of the cast Ramsey through nine at least. *01:50:29* Yeah. *01:50:36* So there's definitely some like introduction of key characters that are gonna *01:50:37* Become bigger deals. *01:50:42* Unfortunately, no no little nobody in this one yet. *01:50:44* But you'll get there. *01:50:48* You'll get there. *01:50:49* Little nobody? *01:50:50* It's a tease. *01:50:51* Buckle up, buddy. *01:50:52* Buckle up *01:50:53* I mean that's what I keep getting told for all of these. *01:50:54* Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. *01:50:57* Every time every single this movie is this movie is buck freaking wild, and every time I point out that it's *01:50:59* crazy everybody just says, oh well, ain't seen nothing yet. *01:51:07* You ain't seen nothing. *01:51:10* Like, I'm just saying I just say buckle up. *01:51:12* I'm not saying you ain't seen nothing yet. *01:51:14* You've seen a lot. *01:51:15* But just you know get ready. *01:51:17* Brace yourself *01:51:18* And that could be positive or negative, brace yourself. *01:51:19* So Yeah, that's that's definitely true. *01:51:21* That's again, bringing it back around to the thing I said at the top where it feels like there's a lot of hands on this thing at this point and it keeps growing and getting bigger. *01:51:23* That is my fear, is that it's going to get lost within itself as we move forward, especially since *01:51:33* Brian is not gonna be around anymore and I felt like he kinda kept it grounded to the OG movies and being the everyman and being this *01:51:43* dude who was in Too Fast Too Furious. *01:51:51* Uh I am afraid that it's going to devolve into Vin Diesel's superhero two and a half hour fun romp from here on out. *01:51:55* That's Guardians of the Galaxy. *01:52:05* He doesn't need that. *01:52:07* That's true. *01:52:08* And I think that does it for Furious 7. *01:52:09* Thank you so much for listening. *01:52:12* If you'd like to follow the show on Twitter, you can at ChapterSelect. *01:52:14* You can follow Logan on Twitter at Moreman12 in his writing over at comicbook. *01:52:18* com. *01:52:22* You can follow myself on Twitter at Max Roberts143 in my writing over at maxfrequency. *01:52:23* net. *01:52:28* And you can follow Ricky on Twitter at RickyFreck. *01:52:28* That's R-I-C-K-Y-F-R-E-C-H. *01:52:32* And his writing over at GamePurr. *01:52:36* He's the associate editor over there. *01:52:38* And then uh *01:52:39* He also is a huge Survivor boy, watches a lot of Survivor. *01:52:41* Do you write about Survivor anyway, Ricky? *01:52:44* We didn't get yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I write about it uh every week. *01:52:46* Um well where? *01:52:50* Where can the people read your survivor stuff? *01:52:51* Oh, uh it's it's called Hidden Remote. *01:52:53* It's like an offshoot of fan sided. *01:52:56* Okay. *01:52:59* So there you go. *01:52:59* Over there. *01:53:01* I can't believe we made this whole podcast without me making a survivor reference. *01:53:01* It's a big it's a big deal for me. *01:53:07* Look at that. *01:53:09* Well, thank you all again for listening and until next time. *01:53:10* Adios. *01:53:13* Chapter Select is a max frequency production. *01:53:14* This episode was researched, produced, and edited by me, Max Roberts. *01:53:18* Season four is hosted by Logan Moore and myself. *01:53:22* Season four is all about the fast and the furious. *01:53:26* For more on this season, go to chapterselect. *01:53:29* com forward slash season four. *01:53:32* Follow the show at Chapter Select and check out previous seasons at chapterselect. *01:53:35* com. *01:53:40* Alright, and you can keep the audio rolling. *01:53:42* Okay. *01:53:45* Some post show stuff if there's anything to be drawn out of it, but keep it just. *01:53:46* I mean, do you want my rankings? *01:53:51* Yeah give us your nah give us your rankings. *01:53:53* This can be Hob and Shaw number one. *01:53:56* Do you want me to weave out the ones you haven't seen? *01:53:58* No, you can throw those in *01:54:01* You can rank the one, just don't say what happens to them, that's it. *01:54:02* Right, okay. *01:54:05* Well hopefully this doesn't um make you worried about the future, but it is Tokyo Drift. *01:54:06* Are you going bottom to top or top to bottom? *01:54:12* I'm going top to bottom. *01:54:14* Are you come on? *01:54:15* I've already heard that this is kind of the top of the roller coaster and from here on out it's *01:54:17* Things get a little worse. *01:54:23* Yeah, they're still fun, but uh so yeah, from the top, Tokyo Drift, 7 *01:54:25* Five, one, two, six, nine, eight, four *01:54:31* And then Hobbs and Strauss not on the list. *01:54:39* Does that make it interesting? *01:54:42* Nine, eight, and four at the bottom. *01:54:44* Uh-oh. *01:54:46* Uh I'm personally *01:54:47* Surprise you have nine above eight. *01:54:50* Oh that's interesting. *01:54:54* It's got John Cena. *01:54:56* I do have to ask, are the things that I am expressing concern in *01:54:57* What ends up bringing those later movies down. *01:55:02* That they just get too big. *01:55:04* Takes in the kitchen. *01:55:05* That plus the just we've gone from family of street racers to *01:55:07* Global espionage secret agent biznorb. *01:55:12* I don't think the global espionage part of it *01:55:17* We've got Charlie's Therone. *01:55:20* She's a mastermind woman lady who has got Vin Diesel on her side to turn against the fam. *01:55:22* Like I don't know if you're not going to be able to do that. *01:55:30* I don't think that's necessarily parts of Brittany Down. *01:55:31* I think um it's just some narrative decisions and stunts and settings. *01:55:34* Like I like I like *01:55:39* Again, I like Kurt Russell's character in this movie and I like hit how he's portraying this character and stuff, but I don't like what he represents, if that makes any sense. *01:55:42* Just this suit dude who has a bajillion dollars of a *01:55:51* of a super military at his disposal and I have carte blanche to do whatever I want. *01:55:56* Like we in two movies we have gone from *01:56:02* I'm Lou Hobbs and I've been sent from the US government to track down Dominic Toretto and it's like, okay, this is feasible. *01:56:05* This makes sense too. *01:56:12* I am Mr. *01:56:13* Nobody. *01:56:14* I run shadow organization military con like *01:56:14* What? *01:56:19* Like we've gone. *01:56:20* It's just like gone very crazy very quickly. *01:56:21* And so I'm afraid that that craziness is only going to be films. *01:56:25* Yeah, I d I'm just concerned that it's going to go from that to then we're gonna get Charlees and then I'm um Vin Diesel's brother, I'm John Cena, I was *01:56:29* as Bannon on the side of the road as a child and I grew up in the pit there with Bane and I trained with him and There is something interesting that you picked up on that does come back around in nine *01:56:41* that uh uh I'm surprised you picked up on it already. *01:56:54* What is it associated with, out of curiosity. *01:56:59* Uh the wrench *01:57:02* Oh, okay. *01:57:05* Oh, who he beat Oh, he beat up his brother, didn't he? *01:57:06* That's why he went to jail. *01:57:09* You'll have to watch him find it. *01:57:12* His brother was the one he beat up. *01:57:14* So *01:57:16* But I do think nine, the problem one of the problems I have with nine is that I felt like the trailer gave away way too much stuff. *01:57:18* I only watched I only watched the first trailer, so actually I now know. *01:57:24* Fast and Furious, I'll watch maybe the first teaser and then I'm down. *01:57:30* Yeah, yeah, yeah. *01:57:33* But isn't that the one where they said that John Cena was his brother? *01:57:34* That was in the first teaser, wasn't it? *01:57:37* No, there is something that happens in nine that I can't say that they gave away in the trailer that is. *01:57:39* You don't want to watch Logan, don't watch the trailer. *01:57:45* Well I know they I know they fly. *01:57:48* Yeah, you you don't want to watch the trailer. *01:57:50* No, don't watch the trailer. *01:57:52* I already know from the trailers that they get a rocket car and then John Cena's his brother. *01:57:54* Don't watch the trailers. *01:58:01* And then I know that they he flips a truck onto a stealth jet. *01:58:02* Just hold your horses. *01:58:08* So our order going forward, Logan *01:58:10* We're gonna watch Fate of Furious next, then Hobbs and Shaw, and then Nine, and then ten. *01:58:13* Better luck tomorrow. *01:58:18* Well and better that'll be very that'll be the most whiplash yet. *01:58:20* And then Fast Ten in in May at you know whenever that goes. *01:58:24* comes out in May. *01:58:27* So oh yeah. *01:58:28* Y'all should you don't have to do this, but there's a podcast I listen to. *01:58:30* Uh it's a it they're like survivor people, but they do this one where they like spin a wheel. *01:58:34* and people like give them topics of what to what what to do their podcast on. *01:58:39* Sure. *01:58:44* And uh they did one where they watched so like one guy would watch the first Fast and the Furious and the other guy would watch the second one. *01:58:44* But they watched them all at 3x speed. *01:58:51* And so like they thought that uh they thought for a long time they thought um *01:58:54* Vin Diesel and um Jordana Brewster were married. *01:59:02* And then Or no no no, maybe they thought I don't know. *01:59:06* They there was some weird relationship where they thought they like, or maybe it was like *01:59:09* Paul Walker and Dr. *01:59:13* Brewster are brother and sister. *01:59:15* I can't remember, but there was some like weird relationship that they were did not understand because they were watching it so fast. *01:59:16* But it's really good. *01:59:21* That sounds hilarious. *01:59:22* That's a pretty good concept. *01:59:23* It's called um Rob and Akiva need a podcast. *01:59:24* If you ever want to search out. *01:59:27* They also did it with Transformers, which was at 4X. *01:59:29* Which was a That sounds horrifying. *01:59:33* That sounds so intense. *01:59:36* Yeah. *01:59:39* It's so something's very scary. *01:59:40* I would not I can't ta I can't stand the Transformers movies at one XP, let alone *01:59:42* Four X more of a cluster. *01:59:48* I was just thinking of Transformers not too long ago. *01:59:51* The first one. *01:59:54* Transformers 1 came out at the perfect time in my life at like 13 years old. *01:59:56* There was *02:00:01* I first of all those movies are just nuts. *02:00:02* I remember the second one, a friend of mine in high school, she always said she didn't like that movie because they destroy the pyramids. *02:00:05* Like, how could they destroy such a significant landmark? *02:00:12* I'm like, well *02:00:16* Whatever. *02:00:17* It's Transformers. *02:00:17* But like I tell Abby this. *02:00:18* I'm like, Megan Fox leaning over the hood of a car, like with the sunset, and Michael Bay filming all this and explosion and stuff. *02:00:20* Like, this movie was a transform *02:00:27* Transformish just transformative to a 13-year-old boy. *02:00:28* Oh yeah, for sure. *02:00:32* Yeah, it's like I'm a man now. *02:00:37* You know? *02:00:39* Well Lincoln Park wasn't in fat the first Transformers, were they? *02:00:39* No. *02:00:43* Yeah. *02:00:43* Yes they were. *02:00:44* Let's see. *02:00:45* Transformers the album LinkedIn Park, What I've Done. *02:00:46* They were What I've Done and then the sequel was New Divide. *02:00:49* Okay. *02:00:53* Well no okay. *02:00:53* I knew those beforehand. *02:00:54* I thought you went new songs. *02:00:56* I was like, they didn't make new songs for it *02:00:57* No, no, no, no. *02:01:00* So does that mean for you Transformers was like American Pie for my generation? *02:01:01* Possibly. *02:01:06* I mean *02:01:07* I would say as much nudity of the obviously, but I think I tra I think Transformers, I believe it was was three the one that Megan Fox wasn't in? *02:01:07* Uh was it four? *02:01:19* No, four had Mark Wahlberg in it, I believe. *02:01:21* Mark Wahlberg. *02:01:24* I think there was just a three. *02:01:25* Mark Wahlberg's four, five, and six. *02:01:26* I want to say Megan Fox is not in three. *02:01:28* Yeah, okay. *02:01:30* That's one that's the worst movie I think I've ever seen. *02:01:31* I legitimately I I would have seen that when I would I would have been prime age for that movie. *02:01:34* I've been like fifteen, sixteen. *02:01:39* You could not get me out of that theater fast enough. *02:01:41* It was the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. *02:01:43* The only reason was frocious. *02:01:45* I alm the only movie I've ever almost walked out of was The Last Airbender. *02:01:47* It's like that's *02:01:53* Oh, uh interesting. *02:01:55* I walked out of the Blue Person Avatar movie. *02:01:56* Oh, you did? *02:02:00* Get this. *02:02:01* I'm seeing it on Friday in like for the HD Remastered. *02:02:02* Because I haven't seen that movie since it came out. *02:02:06* And that's a good thing. *02:02:09* The sequel's coming out, and you know what? *02:02:12* I'm fine with it. *02:02:14* Like, I'll see it. *02:02:15* Why not? *02:02:16* You know what I'm saying? *02:02:17* I also walked out of um Help your wife The Second Guardians of the Galaxy. *02:02:19* That movie's like that's my favorite MCU movie. *02:02:23* Which movie? *02:02:26* I was I was partially I was a little sick, so that's part of it, but I hate that movie. *02:02:27* It's like which one? *02:02:31* The second Guardians of the Galaxy. *02:02:33* And then I also had to leave as a seven-year-old *02:02:37* Jumanji. *02:02:41* So scared of the monkeys. *02:02:42* I've walked out of. *02:02:44* Oh, I don't know if I've ever actually walked out of a m movie. *02:02:45* The only movie uh *02:02:49* I think there are two movies I've walked out of. *02:02:52* My parents made us walk out of one. *02:02:55* And I want to say it was Evince Vaughn. *02:02:57* Christmas movies. *02:03:01* Is that the Jet Lee movie? *02:03:02* It's a Christmas movie. *02:03:04* Fred Christmas. *02:03:06* Four Christmases? *02:03:10* Yes. *02:03:11* My parents made us walk out of that and we actually just tried to watch it I think last Christmas, like Abby and myself, and we shut it off halfway. *02:03:12* So I get it. *02:03:21* I get why our parents made us leave. *02:03:22* We just shut it off because it was really bad. *02:03:24* But the other one we walked out of was Don't Breathe, this horror movie with the blind guy in the house and the people were trapped. *02:03:27* Abby was freaking out, I guess. *02:03:36* I didn't really know this up until seeing the movie, but I guess she has she is very scared of the idea of being like trapped in a house and can't escape, which is the whole premise of this movie. *02:03:38* Um *02:03:50* That's true. *02:03:51* We got about maybe a third of the nut movie and we left. *02:03:54* Um movies I should have walked out of. *02:03:57* The last airbender and the latest Rambo movie probably should have walked out of that one. *02:04:01* Is that bad? *02:04:07* It's rough, man. *02:04:10* It's rough. *02:04:11* The um I think the best way to describe it's funny. *02:04:12* This what I'm going to say is very funny. *02:04:16* But it's also bad. *02:04:18* So the end of the movie, the credits show montages of each Rambo movie up to that point. *02:04:20* So one, two, three, and four. *02:04:27* Then there is a montage for the movie you just watched. *02:04:29* Oh, perfect. *02:04:33* Like you could just watch that. *02:04:35* And the whole thing would be you d you got the everything they needed. *02:04:37* It's basically Rambo home alone. *02:04:41* He basically booty traps a house. *02:04:42* Again, all of this is a funny pitch to say to someone, but it's pretty bad, man. *02:04:45* It's pretty rough. *02:04:49* Um and I also saw it in a super crappy theater. *02:04:50* The theater I normally go to and tried to see it at. *02:04:54* Um the power was out. *02:04:57* And so I had points to like a Regal theater. *02:04:59* I was like, I'll just go s I still wanted to see the movies, so I was like, I'll go see it at Regal. *02:05:02* Um the theater smelled like pee. *02:05:07* It was gross. *02:05:10* It was just a bad time. *02:05:11* The true film experience. *02:05:13* It was it was pretty terrible. *02:05:15*