# [[MFP31 - “The Release Date of this House” with Coury Carlson]] Transcript This transcription was completed on March 4, 2026 with the application MacWhisper on macOS. This was done automatically, without human input during the transcription process. The transcription used the Parakeet v3 model. My hope is that by offering this transcription – however accurate it may be done by a machine learning/AI – will help you, the listener. I’d love to offer full, proper transcription some day, but that is not feasible at this time. Thank you for listening and reading. I hope you enjoy the show and that this document was helpful. Enjoy. --- Hello everybody and welcome to the Max Frequency Podcast. *00:00* for them. *00:00* It's like, well, how can we like learn about this and share those like that learning procedure or like that, you know, in a video? *00:00* But I mean it was the shelves in there from the shelf to the ceiling was all these boxes and that CRT was shoved in there because there's no, you know, it's *00:00* And I'm not nearly as good. *00:00* I think the then as of this recording the next episode will be about XMY or I'm sorry, not X and Y. *00:00* And we have Super Chapter Select, which is just two and a half bucks a month or $20 a year, and you get longer episodes, exclusives, and uh bonus videos like all our Pokemon battles. *00:00* But it wasn't like edited by somebody who like literally does this for a living a lot of times. *00:00* Hm. *00:00* Oh my gosh. *00:00* Um you're too obsessed, it's it's not good. *00:00* So that's and which which I've done. *00:00* It's still all you want to do is play Roblox. *00:00* or final cuts three hundred dollars and now it's just all right. *00:00* and informing people and shedding the light on some really cool stuff. *00:00* Hey, uh, thanks for having me on. *00:00* So that people don't think like, oh, you know, these guys are just phoning it in now. *00:00* And then of course your, you know, year end stuff. *00:00* Which I think's pretty decent these days for a cross point. *00:00* things. *00:00* And I had my I was visiting my mom back home and brought PS2 with me. *00:00* And I just like was living out of two suitcases. *00:00* And I'm like, man, I just like I wanna I need to have some sort of outlet for like creativity. *00:00* Like how does this how could this even be real? *00:00* And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. *00:00* And I was also I don't know. *00:00* So I'm like, well what if we make these but like do it with new games? *00:00* I don't know. *00:00* But still, I mean that was to get that uh like you know, really authentic feel to it, that was the only way to do it. *00:00* We at the time we had this idea of like having a backstory to the existence of these tapes, like as if like all games were already made. *00:00* Like we just thought, oh we'll just like narrate it. *00:00* But truly recreating it from top to bottom. *00:00* in the episode with Tri pulled it out of your video and and put it in other words so people could hear it. *00:00* I mean I would say Cincinnati, but like the truth is is that I live like right across the Ohio River in in northern Kentucky. *00:00* So I moved out here and I'm like, you know, we're gonna be on cam run stuff. *00:00* Like the like I did the Fantasy Star video and I did one on Klonoa, the first Klonoa on the on the PS1. *00:00* So it's like looked at your stuff for the last decade essentially. *00:00* And then it just kind of grew from there and became like we were like, oh, we should like like format it like as a college course. *00:00* And then you have like the 200, which is like focusing on like specific consoles. *00:00* And I like I ended up selling things that are now worth like a bunch of money. *00:00* I don't think a lot of people did. *00:00* like mowing lawns all summer and pre-order those and you know I still have those copies. *00:00* And then lo and behold, later on, you know, it's like, oh, I really want to buy. *00:00* Can you talk to me about that? *00:00* Mm-hmm. *00:00* Um in those old things. *00:00* I wish I could I wish I could bring that into like the modern version on PS4 with Requiem, but uh I've looked at this seem to be any way, shape, or form possible. *00:00* And that got kind of like lost when I was upgrading the homebrew. *00:00* Right. *00:00* and fun that I haven't played before. *00:00* I wanted to play both of those and they're really good. *00:00* And using the stream as an excuse to at least get dedicated time in like something like Persona 4 Golden or or something like that. *00:00* And sometimes like he'll just like get into this like word salad that I have like I just like makes my head spin after a bit. *00:00* Yes. *00:00* Alright, it c it came out. *00:00* Garage, so I'm watching studio tours and digging into other people's videos, and that all inspired me to make my own recently, and I put that up and that was cool. *00:00* Camera on the tripod and you just did that same spin three times and just edited it in. *00:00* and up above the drop ceiling and then have it go down behind the uh drywall like where i in its destination and have like a little outlet where just like things cables are coming out so it like hides a lot of that stuff *00:00* I learned a bunch of stuff that I would never have even uh considered attempting in the old house. *00:00* lights and this is like in the another part of the video that it hasn't you know like it's like beyond like the previous segment that you've seen. *00:00* But they were on clearance for $2. *00:00* CRT or rocking chair. *00:00* And at least just getting a grasp on your cabling situation. *00:00* to it I can just like pull that down. *00:00* where they had uh like parents come in just like you know just talk with kids like different classes right like oh you need to talk to them talk to them about *00:00* who was like worked in games. *00:00* You know, like our shots and like how we like how it looks overall, like that kind of stuff is what uh will be like, oh I I feel like we can trust these people to do a good job with it. *00:00* You've got to do podcasts, all these different things. *00:00* Like like uh like DaVinci Resolve is free. *00:00* And then they're on social media and they're seeing all the stuff and then their apps give them the tools. *00:00* people. *00:00* you were recommended by so and so that I met. *00:00* I mean, as I said way at the beginning, like I don't even if if trying to s and I did this without one or the other, I don't think that either one of us would be even here or doing any of this stuff. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* I've brought a lot of awareness to things and that's so great and powerful and I thank you to me for the last ten years *00:00* And I'm looking forward to, you know, the next ten or however long you guys want to keep doing this show. *00:00* It's like uh this is like a weird archive of like she'll be able to go back if she's interested and see what I was talking about when I was her age at a certain point. *00:00* Wii sports is gonna be like a rare game. *00:00* Yep. *00:00* So I mean 'cause Try doesn't like have any social stuff. *00:00* We'd have like different topics, but it's it's never focused on anything. *00:00* And my other show, Chapter Select, the seasonal podcast where we bounce back and forth between a series exploring its evolution design and legacy. *00:00* You know, it's a huge honor. *00:00* kind of surreal to think that I've that we've been doing it for this long. *00:00* What was the how long was the Mr. *00:00* So I watched that before the show. *00:00* Uh ROM hacks part two. *00:00* They seemed cool and then they didn't end up being like less cool like the more I used them, so I don't know. *00:00* w what I've subscribed for, come here for, which is you guys digging into retro gaming and accessories and topics and things like that. *00:00* So they finally have a switch to go into the tink. *00:00* a site I think is called Reverb or something, like selling audio equipment specifically. *00:00* your setups over the years and stuff because you got you are getting ready to put out a video, a tour of your studio and game room and stuff. *00:00* you know, like achieving a career, which was like in post-production video editing. *00:00* town called Jamestown. *00:00* Got this internship answered phones and I didn't play games for a long time. *00:00* So I didn't like have anything to plan. *00:00* I'd recently gone through like a bad breakup, so I was just kind of, you know, in a way, like living in New York, you know, doing this internship. *00:00* Like playing the games that you have. *00:00* And like celebrating the like, you know, like, oh, I like I finished this game. *00:00* Like they'd each get a different night to stream. *00:00* I'd rather have it be like on my terms. *00:00* This American Life, a whole bunch. *00:00* besides like a a desire to want to do it. *00:00* So let's just like do something that is, you know, more tightly edited and has like a a style to it. *00:00* Or whatever, you know, like it came out in '85. *00:00* the complete playthrough of like six games. *00:00* pretty well like out of the gate, I think, because the game had just come out and Wayforward themselves like retweeted like the tweet on it and stuff and that kind of got us like off and running. *00:00* If you catch it, it's there. *00:00* I mean I I'm not sure if you're familiar with retroware TV. *00:00* So it's like this site, RetroWare TV, has like this this talent. *00:00* you know, a year and a half old and she was just like right on the other side of the door from me, like on the other side of the wall. *00:00* And he did a video on Kiwi Craze where he was able to borrow a camera from work. *00:00* You know, my my wife is from like up by Columbus, Ohio. *00:00* The illusion is still going on even though I am actually loading up a box truck. *00:00* Um I mean we had we were got posted on Kotaku one other time with another how to beat video which was on Shovel Night that did really, really good. *00:00* Uh that got passed around a ton. *00:00* you know, recorded our segments and then I gave everything a try and he was like creating all the comparisons and stuff like that and I was like, Oh, this is pretty neat. *00:00* Like it would make it a lot easier to consume. *00:00* And it just blew up from there and we had no intention of making it a a series and then we're like, oh, we should do another one. *00:00* But ended up becoming like great friends like Bob from Rush or RGB. *00:00* We can like learn to understand that and then make a video at the same time. *00:00* I get from their perspective, like, why do you want to keep this Game Boy Advance box? *00:00* Like if I had, I think if I really if I could have bought a Frame Meister at the time, I don't think I'd have a CRT these days. *00:00* fine, but I'm like, it's important, believe me. *00:00* I think you you even had a comment because you've got this preview video up, I think, of your tour, your upcoming tour, where you're like, man, if the Mr. *00:00* I don't even know if I would have kept all this stuff. *00:00* or like in the back of my closet in New York. *00:00* uh is in is in uh Williamsburg, Brooklyn. *00:00* So I bought all kinds of games and stuff that way. *00:00* that I wish I could get back. *00:00* And I s probably spent like 120 hours in diamond and then I got platinum and spent, you know, another sixty or eighty in that *00:00* Through the Game Boy player using Swiss and the Game Boy Interface. *00:00* There I forget what that adapt that original kind of popular one was called, but can't get that really affordable anymore. *00:00* You know, I talked about the retro. *00:00* You know, it th the thing is is these things aren't specifically for backing up saves. *00:00* save files like over the years. *00:00* And I I I don't even think it sold very much in the US period. *00:00* And I was still like interning. *00:00* Like when I rebought that, that's kind of what made me realize, like, oh, you know, it's I'm glad I I have this, but at the same time it's like it's not the same. *00:00* So but the Save the Hero pre-orders are opening back up. *00:00* It's uh all digital Series X essentially and PS5 is rumored to basically be only digital with a detachable disk drive. *00:00* God only knows what they'll call it. *00:00* I know. *00:00* I have more than a lifetime of stuff that I haven't played that I have. *00:00* You know, I I don't buy just like every little thing. *00:00* I like I had an epiphany like a couple months ago about how, you know, with the way my life is, you know, like you know, like with work and like doing the channel and like kids and you know *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* I haven't opened that yet. *00:00* But it's because it was sitting there and I had it. *00:00* And like even before I had this, I got this the job that I work at now, uh like mid 2020. *00:00* Would you be interested in doing this thing? *00:00* I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm interested in and my and my wife was like, yes. *00:00* When the pandemic happened, I was like working freelance. *00:00* You know, it's just it's nice to have like this remote job that I can, you know, like I do what I need to do and I have to travel sometimes for it. *00:00* Mm-hmm. *00:00* Or like and we also like do a live stream every Sunday. *00:00* two and a half, three hours blocked off that I can play through like like older games in one sitting on there. *00:00* be in this like empty house, being the only person up or like being in this house, everyone's asleep. *00:00* Um yeah. *00:00* And then go to bed. *00:00* over the last year, kind of right before we had the baby, which probably wasn't the best time to try this, was I wanted to try and be consistent because that at least gives me a dedicated time slot to play something. *00:00* And so now that I'm in this space, I I'm I'm dabbling in that. *00:00* And that's not my job. *00:00* He's he he he's he's very verbose a lot of times in his writing, but he's just very good at uh just writing it all out, right? *00:00* you know, paring it down. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* You've been a bit more established where you are now, which I in my notes have dubbed the basement. *00:00* You have the shot where you're in the apartment and you're spinning. *00:00* spinning desk chair on a tripod and very nervously spun the chair while hoping it would not fall. *00:00* then the rental house with the attic and then uh or a rental house, then the attic house and then the basement. *00:00* climb underneath like in these like crawl spaces like underneath the house, you know, for this I mean, I don't even want to know what I'm gonna find in there. *00:00* I can definitely do something with this. *00:00* I'm like, but there's like all this cool stuff down here that I could like work with. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* Now I have all this room and it's like, ah, things can breathe and come out and I can route, you know, na I've got like I've got twenty-foot USB-C cable going over somewhere and all these component video cables. *00:00* I don't have to go like through the wall to like another room. *00:00* You know, and it's kind of like it's a like a loose jab towards my kids. *00:00* And I am teaching her the Konami code, so we'll see. *00:00* You know, I don't have my hopes set too high. *00:00* So my kids are uh my daughter's eleven. *00:00* I think it's coming to PlayStation soon. *00:00* Trust them to do this. *00:00* you know, led to more regular things. *00:00* I wanted to talk to people in the game space or or and not just developers, but journalists as well. *00:00* And then, but I'd also had the opportunity to interview Yacht Club or Pear Schneider. *00:00* Gosh, who but I'd have to go back and look. *00:00* Right. *00:00* the antithesis of what I play. *00:00* It took and I was like, I'm done. *00:00* and your work processes and your stories. *00:00* We'll try again some other day. *00:00* I mean that's the thing. *00:00* the Mac and and that's what I use and I I think you use Premiere, which most people use, but you can just it's the pro level software is just at everyone's fingers. *00:00* you know, people say like, Oh, how do I get started in this? *00:00* You know, and just like that's what I did when I when I moved to New York and I was like taking these classes. *00:00* that are saying like, oh, you know, I just feel like I need to get a better understanding of like avid media composer or something. *00:00* I think one thing that I've always struggled with is I'll watch videos from people that inspire me or captivate my attention, like you guys. *00:00* doing what we were doing, like to do have released that video at that time because that's like got us noticed because we were doing something that nobody had really done yet. *00:00* you know, like dumbed down to the point where dumbed down to the point where we understand it and then we could like explain it to other people in a similarly dumbed down way, but people could *00:00* I I couldn't follow the the exact line, so I don't know if like your videos sparked, but I've seen some stuff that's like people are clear. *00:00* Just just just mention it because you never know when someone was like, oh yeah, I could do that and then like make it. *00:00* Like comments are one thing, but it's just like somebody's typing those comments out, but it's still just you know, disembodied text for better or worse, you know. *00:00* I I one thing I like like try is is very good at responding to comments and like kind of killing them with qu kindness. *00:00* You know, or I don't know. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* And for you, I mean, the last say eight years, uh you know, 'cause you guys weren't really on camera all that much the first year necessarily, but like the last eight years of you have are archived in some way publicly *00:00* On Twitter, you you are you the one you're the one behind the Twitter account, primarily, right? *00:00* to me. *00:00* And then calling it. *00:00* Cool. *00:00* Right. *00:00* under a live tab on the front page. *00:00* move them over there and that's why people have probably been getting suggested like, oh, watch this next. *00:00* recounting the uh the early days of of the channel. *00:00* throughout uh each and every mainline game. *00:00* I would doubt anyone who would watch My Life in Gaming and think at all that you guys are phoning it in. *00:00* like have gone a lot quicker. *00:00* For a long time. *00:00* Because people won't say, like, you know, I waited this long for a video and like this is what it is now. *00:00* you know, regularly again, then I'll be okay with just being like, all right, I'm just gonna let this be what it is. *00:00* videos here, I've noticed that you've been putting up, I would say shorter, at least shorter for my life in gaming videos, you know, like the the Aberneck 353M, you know, the little emulation thing. *00:00* I felt like most excited about because in in something that I felt like our audience would be most interested in when it comes to them. *00:00* Yes. *00:00* a lot of people on. *00:00* Yeah, I needed uh I needed a way to hook everything up. *00:00* I think we're gonna talk about the struggle. *00:00* you can I think you can spend that time really well digging into the one thing instead of trying to explore a range of a topic which then kind of balloons out, you know. *00:00* But it's hard to make that connection, I guess, unless you're like seeing it for real. *00:00* It's still quite a cable situation where I'm at now, but it's uh it's more hidden from sight. *00:00* that I did play, like such as like Metal Gear Solid 3, Halo 2. *00:00* And I uh did video for a website website called thenextlevel dot com. *00:00* I was doing that as well. *00:00* look into like seeing what's going on with games a little bit more. *00:00* I'm like this is so awesome. *00:00* Uh, because, you know, like when I was playing a bunch of games before, I was just like buying stuff and never playing it. *00:00* And wow, that was cut. *00:00* It sounds I mean that's a lot of money. *00:00* you know, video production backgrounds. *00:00* I gotta do another one now. *00:00* We could have like a handful of like really easy videos to do, and then we could have more in-depth things like my Fantasy Star video that I had done for this other site, where it has like some motion graphics in it, you know, and it was *00:00* 13 or something, there wasn't a lot of like really tightly edited content out there. *00:00* I guess, without having like without buying 'em or uh renting them or anything, you know? *00:00* Like I did a Super Smash Brothers Brawl thing. *00:00* that I used to love I would used to buy that had like these wal like video walkthroughs Yeah uh of of games and I would be able to like I would buy one of these tapes for ten dollars and I would see the c like *00:00* those how to beat videos early on, I think that we were I like to say like, oh, we were like kind of ahead of the curve on the whole like VHS aesthetic. *00:00* So we released that first video as DuckTales Remastered uh on October 1st. *00:00* You know, like as like a whole in a way, yeah. *00:00* in in HD and then we would export the sequence and then we would play that out from our computer onto into a VCR. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* It was it was very similar to the video that I did on uh on Fantasy Star for the other site. *00:00* Just read it. *00:00* If we can. *00:00* you know, it started to get more attention. *00:00* And they like showed some stuff. *00:00* Quiet because she's asleep somewhere in this apartment. *00:00* And it was right around this time that uh we were kind of getting ready to leave New York. *00:00* just like hemorrhaging work like just like clients like crazy, right? *00:00* quit essentially. *00:00* Oh, okay. *00:00* Right. *00:00* to like make a full video if we want to keep this release schedule that we have going. *00:00* Yes. *00:00* And then it was just like a one-off idea. *00:00* You know, you you make a video and it just like is is at the right moment for it to get picked up and like it kind of capitalizes on a subject that somebody was *00:00* Like in our setups. *00:00* if he's gonna like hate what what we're doing if we're if we're like we're kind of annoying that we're gonna claim for his audience. *00:00* Like yourself is say, oh, you know, like seeing that first one is like what led me into this whole thing. *00:00* stuff they have on the website now. *00:00* That can't be real on real hardware, right? *00:00* Yeah, I was going into my freshman year of college at the time, so I had no money. *00:00* It's like this is so cool and oh my gosh, what a wormhole Genesis is, right? *00:00* afterward as well, but it also led to me really fighting to keep a lot of the old stuff. *00:00* We got a pretty good deal. *00:00* You know, like I just kept on I I sold a lot of games during that time, especially to help me like fund my move to New York in the first place because *00:00* I I like I kept a lot of the stuff that I had real sentimental attachment to, which luckily is like a lot of games that are super expensive now. *00:00* Good. *00:00* Gift cards. *00:00* So I was filling out these surveys and I would just like spend, you know, you spend all day, like it's like a Sunday, just like filling out so many of these surveys, and then you get like a hundred dollar Amazon gift card a couple days later. *00:00* Holy smokes, man. *00:00* It's so valuable. *00:00* Uh like all the working designs games on the on the PS1 and uh Sega CD. *00:00* like back because so I had played blue um as a kid and then long story short my parents said no more Pokemon *00:00* And I was able to, and I got it was a big Pokemon birthday essentially. *00:00* And then to me, it's that, I mean, the cartridge has that sentimental value of like this is mine, but that save data is just gone. *00:00* Great accessory. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* But you know, like and I think the other one I lost is uh like secret is secret of mana. *00:00* But I I I just think they having like being able to back that up. *00:00* But I mean it's like it's a combination of that childhood cartridge that I had. *00:00* And I mean I always joke about the thing that kills me the most though makes me the saddest is that uh is uh the copy of Snatcher that I sold. *00:00* I was like temping for a while. *00:00* ne name the Pokemon or whatever and this and that and it's just Yeah. *00:00* Five. *00:00* You know, like that is is super valuable to me. *00:00* like play the stuff that I feel like I want to play that's digital, but I don't would not feel nearly as invested. *00:00* Here's 60, 70 games I played this year, but I only beat maybe 20 of them or 30 of them. *00:00* Until I'm sitting down to play it. *00:00* Because job. *00:00* Like YouTube was like, okay, well now I need to see if I can like make a living from this stuff. *00:00* And that's that's fine, but I can fit in working on the show or playing a game or something like that, like when uh when I have time. *00:00* I don't know. *00:00* You need to figure out a way to balance this out. *00:00* Yeah, I'm the early riser. *00:00* At least I have a dedicated time. *00:00* you know, completely separate. *00:00* uh one time and you're done and you get like a sum of money just to play through that game like the one time and not do anything else. *00:00* even like remotely as close to as as well as he does. *00:00* Is where there's sometimes there's people that, you know, like I don't I don't I'm not I don't have the level of technical understanding that that Tri does. *00:00* Hey, this thing can do this stuff. *00:00* outside of the box thing you can do with it. *00:00* Both sides of the show. *00:00* But ultimately I just gotta I've you just have to accept that like I'm I'm not that way and how can I play to the strengths of the of the way that I I am *00:00* No, I don't think it's been too long. *00:00* 144 years old. *00:00* I would I mean we used to use it to like spin products like on camera or something like that. *00:00* like a microphone stand which just like had the the base on it. *00:00* takes of it, you know. *00:00* color changes or something like that or just like if if I like maybe bumped it slightly or something like that I can you can you can you can hide it, yeah. *00:00* Uh, you know, we had looked at different houses. *00:00* um hundred electronics work and and just yeah, you just don't know you can't do certain things because, you know, like I'm not gonna like *00:00* just different things that I learned. *00:00* You know, like it'd be stupid not to. *00:00* I swear I can't see a single wire coming out of it. *00:00* Even like the attic tour, you know, everything was segmented off, you know, you would record the table in one room to now it's at the other end of the basement here or *00:00* you know, all your games or the library is behind you now. *00:00* I just love seeing it. *00:00* the HD TV and the the CRT at the same time, you're like, I've got it all go into 17 monitors and here's every extron switch. *00:00* My my kids like have like toys and stuff over there. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* uh there's like little portions of the ceiling that extrude where there is uh ventilation or uh stuff like like like heating like like like uh like pipes and stuff. *00:00* And really, it's more about the process, you know, just like figuring it out, making it work, and then *00:00* A lot of times I'm just finding like after I do all this stuff, I don't do anything with it. *00:00* screen and I like mounted a like an older projector that I have like say did you watch the uh my life in gaming video on CRT projectors? *00:00* Uh, you know, 'cause I've hooked up a uh like a Roku to the projector and we watched like the new s uh spy across the Spider-Verse. *00:00* Modern games kind of Yeah, but you know, the it the experience is more rewarding when there's a little bit of a change. *00:00* They don't they don't come down there and go, man, here's No, I I and I have no idea if like they're eventually gonna think that it's cool or there's gonna be like, oh, it's just not even that big of a deal. *00:00* And then, you know, because last year at the end of the school year, you know, some of the faculty at my kids' school uh found out that I that I do YouTube and like, oh you gotta come in and like like there's a thing called future day. *00:00* Yeah, yeah. *00:00* it just comes down to like the downside to it is that you just like think about it constantly. *00:00* You know, you're just constantly thinking, like, oh, like I I want to do something like that again, but like the the work involved. *00:00* Kind of going back to what we were talking about a while ago about uh you know how I wanted to do something where we were uh *00:00* Like initially I wanted like the channel to be like, oh, you know, like it's not about like my life or Tri's life in gaming. *00:00* Mm-hmm. *00:00* To be clear, n you know, I'm those people don't owe me their time. *00:00* But just hearing No a lot really sucked. *00:00* To a creative outlet. *00:00* But I mean, just because you have the opportunities to get it out there doesn't mean anybody's gonna watch it. *00:00* And like even when I was in school, like I cannot even imagine like going into that marketplace trying to get work now. *00:00* Oh, I want to like edit films or something like that. *00:00* You have an iPad, you can pay five bucks a month and get access to Final Cut Pro. *00:00* That is like the best advice is like, you know, it's it's not always about like what you know, it's like who you know *00:00* taking these post-production like training classes, but they were like, you know, like three to five people. *00:00* Then a couple weeks later, it's like, oh, we need somebody to work overnight on this show. *00:00* And then I sit down to make something. *00:00* And you've just you've built up skills in a repertoire and you've the people that you knew back in RGB *00:00* 100 compared to the people that you know today, the access just to pure resources is crazy. *00:00* You know, it just you never know. *00:00* completely different like when you're like face to face or like seeing it like and like hearing it from like you know a real person who that's in front of you you know *00:00* really hard on you about this and everything and you know. *00:00* being as good of a writer as he is. *00:00* And I think that that is one of, if not the most beautiful part of my life in gaming, is how the two of you fit so well together and you come together to create a show. *00:00* Should they be interested to see what dad was up to in 2014? *00:00* I'm assuming it will. *00:00* know for real. *00:00* Formally or X, formerly known as Twitter. *00:00* with uh Chris from Classic Gaming Quarterly uh called Here's My Question for You. *00:00* You know, we talk about more uh like ol like ol old man type stuff, I think sometimes. *00:00* Doing twenty twenty to fifty a week is what's been happening. *00:00* uh I'm gonna like not do that for a little while. *00:00* have also greatly increased in that time. *00:00* as many different things in a video as we can, but I think it's okay just to have like a shorter video focused on one subject or like one aspect of it, you know? *00:00* You know, everything's gotta be like a certain length or something like that because they people don't know when they're gonna get the next one. *00:00* So I don't know. *00:00* And I say this this kind of thing over and over again because I would love no nothing more than to feel okay doing that. *00:00* when it is the the 15 minute or the the 20 minute video, it's like, ah, this is really nice. *00:00* I mean you guys have shaped I th not only m a lot of stuff that I have now, but I think, you know, tons of people's retro setups have been inspired by what you guys do and have educated *00:00* That's that's a good deal. *00:00* And uh, you know, I went to school for video editing and stuff. *00:00* I think that I was kind of burned out just in general because like I grew up playing games and then all throughout college I worked at electronics boutique, like selling games. *00:00* on the on the website. *00:00* Mm-hmm. *00:00* I mean at the time I wasn't uh doing anything. *00:00* Like I'll I was like, I'll capture everything. *00:00* You know, it was you know, just it was it was a outlet for me to to get into this stuff. *00:00* And I put all this work into it. *00:00* So I was like, yeah, okay. *00:00* So we're like I was like, you know, I I used to uh go to It's one of these department stores. *00:00* Uh and they were quirky and it seemed like the person doing the the narration for it just, you know, was had no idea what they were reading. *00:00* Exactly. *00:00* Saying like, oh there it goes. *00:00* You know, like there's not a lot of jokes in there, but when there's jokes, it's just kind of like, oh, there it is. *00:00* Exactly, exactly. *00:00* Like after the game came out. *00:00* Uh uh Pat Country is like was one of the creators, I think. *00:00* Uh and we went to a panel where we watched that and then we like someone like Game Chasers, I think, might have been like the ones that were presenting at this panel. *00:00* Now and her crib was in my office, so I actually couldn't do anything while she was asleep. *00:00* You know, like I was working as a staff editor, like my I was spending like a lot of days not doing anything. *00:00* I also know what that's like. *00:00* redo that fantasy star video. *00:00* Like a lot of people were curious about. *00:00* Exactly. *00:00* I don't know, like not uh saying like, oh, here's all these complicated things just gonna make your head swim. *00:00* And that, you know, that video got us noticed by like a lot of people and you know, people that I thought would maybe like not would be annoyed with what we're doing. *00:00* I guess well CRT is what were later because I didn't really have have a CRT in my setup at the time. *00:00* But you know, like I kept the CRT. *00:00* I get it. *00:00* So I mean that's I had a lot of that stuff and I sold stuff that you know I wish that I didn't sell, but also I'm really happy that I kept things like my Chrono Trigger. *00:00* Play it it play it that way. *00:00* like uh Final Fantasy III or six. *00:00* I care so much about my save data because I feel like that's the true encapsulation of my experience with the game. *00:00* Even though every time you play that moment in time. *00:00* GameCube was a lot a big kind of interesting thing with like using the Wii to back things up, but now we've got the Memcard Pro GC. *00:00* There's been some things. *00:00* was gone one day. *00:00* For the first time. *00:00* Um if I have the means to back up that save. *00:00* Childish and funny. *00:00* Being able to take my PS3 or I guess the PS1 version of Castlevania something that I on my PS3 take that save data off and then like put it on my Mr. *00:00* Could play through, you know, you know, thinking about like say uh you know, like forty to sixty hour RPGs, right? *00:00* It comes down to uh, you know, just like making the time like 'cause I have so I have like a regular job, but I work remote from home. *00:00* I could contribute a little bit, but nowhere near like what I needed to. *00:00* That's just, you know, like I don't some people say, like, oh, how do you you know, like I've seen your end-of-the-year videos, like like if Corey has has two kids and like in a job and stuff, how is he playing on this stuff? *00:00* You know, I mean I have that come up here with Spider Man 2 in October. *00:00* It's your job, you then you gotta like spend all kinds of time like writing about it. *00:00* Like Trad's been testing their the RetroTink 4K and just like all these things, like he can like say, like, oh, you know, if you like move this, you know, like like sample this one pixel like slightly, blah blah blah. *00:00* Like I don't even understand how you begin to even think think that. *00:00* Like it's just like a like a a like a different plane of existence in the ways like thinks. *00:00* You each have a style but that comes together, I think, matches up really well. *00:00* as difficult as what you were doing, at least if I was spitting on a chair on a tripod. *00:00* Uh on we we closed on this house on December thirtieth, twenty nineteen. *00:00* like like outlets, like electric outlets, like running electric additional electric wires like from like other places. *00:00* To move to this house. *00:00* And like right around the corner behind me is a uh you know, like it's an area where uh I've like set up some other stuff, but it's not something I do like it's not like like game or show related. *00:00* It's just that you can hide a lot of stuff like above the drop ceiling and that's what makes it look a lot cleaner. *00:00* So it's just like drop our drywall like uh you know, just like an enclosure in a way. *00:00* That's that's kind of enough for me. *00:00* Like the number one thing that my kids think is is cool about me is that and they love to tell their friends at school is like, oh he's got a he's got a silver play button. *00:00* About YouTube because you know that is like the number one thing that kids want to be now. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* the uh RGB stuff and that's just kind of what we are are known for. *00:00* And he said, oh, here's some of like the work things we've worked on that we've created. *00:00* It's like it's almost a catch-22 in a way. *00:00* that I wasn't interested in. *00:00* doesn't bug me as much because I it's just for me. *00:00* I I find it it's a treat, it's a pleasure, and I I have so much fun. *00:00* I'd like he's like a like a a director. *00:00* You know, you you see what's going on just like even in short form video like on TikTok and stuff. *00:00* interlacing and all this other stuff are is like really, really low. *00:00* mind blowing to someone who you're growing up and it's like Adobe costs, you know, hundreds of dollars just for one year's version of software or *00:00* Take your information or whatever, like when you're leaving, it's like, oh, it's good like, you know, doing this, like like learning this stuff with you and or or like being in this class with you and just like talking with you. *00:00* You've learned, you've grown, you've over and over and over, and you've shot different documentaries, you've shot different RGB, you know, uh 101, 201, 301 videos and things like that. *00:00* When you have a question, you could reach out to a John Lenneman or a Bob Um or Mike Chi and actually get like the answer, right? *00:00* I wonder like what wouldn't exist if we w didn't W Did you uh uh you recently put up a video about the the PS2 Slim power supply that like is the the magical what *00:00* You know, if there's something that doesn't exist that I wish it it did exist, I will always say, like, oh, I wonder if I should like mention this in a video because Mention it. *00:00* Mm-hmm. *00:00* Age basically in real time, but also like gain a bunch of weight, lose a bunch of weight, slowly gain a bunch of weight, maybe evening off. *00:00* Like I I mean, I don't know if they'll be excited for any of this stuff. *00:00* Like dropping into a conversation. *00:00* uh every every song on radiohead's okay computer stuff like that just stuff you know it just g I guess it gives you like a different side *00:00* I just wanted to do it so I could, you know, have them all in one place. *00:00* Out of four hundred and twenty, I think. *00:00* you know, make things shorter and more concise, but at the same time, it's I I think that I have like these certain uh points that I need to hit. *00:00* in the works like off and on for over a year. *00:00* But you know, it's like, oh, I need I feel like I need to hit like this at least time amount or else like people are gonna be disappointed. *00:00* that I think it's okay to do these shorter videos because I think that uh for a while there I was feeling like um *00:00* you know, like pretty insane. *00:00* in an extron cross point box with the original manuals and cables and floppy disks for the software all sealed. *00:00* And what the what I liked about the back loggery is that it was like like start or finish the games that you start. *00:00* like medical approval videos and it was just like real depressing, like cutting up these interviews with people with like metastatic breast cancer cancer and all kinds of other stuff, just real depressing stuff. *00:00* Offer to edit video for different websites or YouTube channels like it's just a a side thing to do. *00:00* tightly edited stuff. *00:00* But on the other hand, we wanted something that we could just like make really easily. *00:00* So I was like man I love them because they they just like had like this feel to them like you know like this old like VHS feel *00:00* to sell for when the game eventually releases. *00:00* Is like was kind of our big breakout success. *00:00* So that was kind of our first big breakout success and that got posted on Kotaku, which you know like got got s it spread around a bunch more and slowly like that's *00:00* So I'm like I talk real quietly. *00:00* I I don't I don't want to move away. *00:00* redo it so that I can just put it on here. *00:00* And uh they released while I was was moving. *00:00* Yeah at that point. *00:00* You're not gonna get that in New York. *00:00* I mean, that is not something that we could have planned. *00:00* just make it easy for them to understand and just sit into and to do it. *00:00* what it is and it's it's just not something we could have planned. *00:00* A lot of people really uh I don't know, like just like it's it it's a part of their life. *00:00* I really resonate. *00:00* But uh my family's moved a lot and so a lot of stuff has been lost because parents would make decisions that the child couldn't, which is *00:00* Well actually we she lived upstairs in like a two-family house. *00:00* I'd gotten like these PS1 games for real cheap. *00:00* something that uh you know I didn't under I didn't realize that it would be like the equivalent to like what comic books were to like our parents. *00:00* It's because, you know, like the people that were kids when the GameCube was out are like just graduating from college. *00:00* Be old enough to understand like, oh, this is the kind of game I like. *00:00* Forever, you know, since I've since I've had it's like my original copy, like nothing can can change like that is like *00:00* It's it's so important, I think, to to have that stuff. *00:00* But that that retroad was something that like opened my mind for like, oh my gosh, so if I can back these up, then I can change these batteries that I can like I'd lost some *00:00* I used to like always like name the girl character after like whoever I like had a thing for at the time. *00:00* And uh yeah, I mean I'm I'm real happy that those things exist because I I it's just like a moment in time that nothing can replace. *00:00* But I was able to like rebuy it. *00:00* You know, but the thing is I haven't played all the way through that version of it because I mean I haven't replayed it all the way through. *00:00* Um but a thing is is Sony's cloud saving is tied to PS Plus. *00:00* without some sort of subscription service have access to those moments in time. *00:00* like four of these four of these like like sixty hour RPGs a year. *00:00* But when you think about it, like I'm gonna be 45, you know, that's like like 40 like 60 hour RPGs, like I I might only have the opportunity to play like *00:00* You know, like I I will be more than happy to then just play the stuff that I have. *00:00* But after when the pandemic hit, like all my freelance work dried up because all their work dried up. *00:00* And I mean, it comes it just comes down to the fact like if you want to if you want to play something, like you're gonna you're gonna you'll figure out a time to play it. *00:00* Uh I there there was a point where I was getting up at five o'clock every day and there is there is almost no greater joy than *00:00* Uh but then I realized after doing that for a while that I wasn't going to bed any earlier either. *00:00* So, I mean, you know, there's people say, Oh, you know, if you love your job or you never work a day in your life. *00:00* love is is much. *00:00* I think we as in the audience are gonna get a kind of a big taste of it here with the new studio tour that you've been teasing for a while now. *00:00* It's just like like one of those little like it's like a little editing trick, I guess, or camera. *00:00* that was newer and that I could actually like do some stuff and we'd like looked at a bunch of places for a while. *00:00* But you know, like I had this time, like oh I it would be really convenient to have like an electrical outlet above the drop ceiling, so I could like run a search protector like up there. *00:00* Obviously the evolution, right? *00:00* how much we're actually gonna use it. *00:00* After uh yeah, because I mean her birthday's in May, so you're I mean she's eleven and a half. *00:00* What do they I mean they have access to literally any video game they want, essentially, right? *00:00* You know, like there was little things on YouTube at the time, but there's not there wasn't like, you know, there's there wasn't anything like no clip around at the time *00:00* directed Mist, the Mist series. *00:00* I was told to do at the time, and it's still the the case, just in a different context, is you know, you've got to go out and do the work. *00:00* be accessible, but the the whole idea was very similar to what you were talking about, what you wanted to do with my life in gaming initially, which was *00:00* A lot of work to show besides some freelance articles and like three episodes of a podcast. *00:00* being burnt out on trying to c get into the games industry of all these, you know, freelance articles and just doing work *00:00* I think I see twin finite and I think it's twin finite as well. *00:00* And I'm like, A, like just tell them, tell them don't don't like get into that now because I mean I think about this a lot because *00:00* To like just straight out of the gate to like even get an NSF. *00:00* like video engineers are something that are like probably needed, you know, like people who like understand video signals and this and that, like stuff that he could probably understand and like make himself valuable because *00:00* But it's also the people you know. *00:00* elaborate more into it if they wanted to. *00:00* uh over the course of those early videos or early classes that you can incorporate into later ones. *00:00* And it's and it's weird because I think about there there's been several times where we have like suggested something in a video and then somebody says, oh, it's a good idea, and then like makes it. *00:00* You know, the people watching. *00:00* uh in person like telling you like, oh, you know, I I like this thing that you did and and it like inspired me to do this. *00:00* write like long explanations of certain things. *00:00* I I I don't respond to comments that often unless it's something that's uh I can sum up in a couple of sentences. *00:00* Um believe it or not. *00:00* I I in a way, yeah. *00:00* But just kind of meandering off into different subjects. *00:00* But it's just like juggling different things, you know, like like Tries had like a ton of freelance work last couple like year and a half or so and uh like other work and it's just been *00:00* Okay. *00:00* before it was even like a normal thing to do. *00:00* And like you know, it's a lot of self discipline also, but it was just the community r like around that *00:00* And there was one night where Try was like late to the stream. *00:00* At the time I was like, well, I wonder, like I have a capture set up. *00:00* what is like the uh your favorite game? *00:00* But it's like you can't get anybody to agree to uh be interviewed or like do something with video without like having any examples of work. *00:00* I like I created the channel. *00:00* Like on target, I guess. *00:00* I don't know, it's just like more like tightly edited stuff because I felt feel like in like twenty *00:00* record it onto the tape and then play that then you know s switch the uh like the input and the output and like like re-record that VHS tape like back into our computer. *00:00* And we did a couple, like I then I did one on Castle Evolution. *00:00* And then I think we did, I think tried another how to beat, and I think it was uh Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD. *00:00* Um Tri always l laughs about my voiceover in those early episodes. *00:00* I feel like that's I mean that's where it changed for me because Kotaku shared that. *00:00* It's called RGB and the Frame Meister, like getting the best picture quality from your retro video games. *00:00* Like it just we had no anticipation for it. *00:00* Okay, so you gotta read this many, many times to figure it out. *00:00* And we didn't know a lot of the technical aspects of it, but we knew what you needed to do to get or what you needed for like good results. *00:00* put them on my HD TV or add other ways to play them. *00:00* more modern means. *00:00* And I mean I if the MISR had it had existed in I don't know like 2007, 2008, like I probably would have sold a lot of that stuff even then because I could just *00:00* I don't think I would feel like compelled to like rebuy just like copies of them because like there's something about it like being the one that has been with me. *00:00* like sattered anything before and that's kind of where I learned how to desatter something and you know it's it's a very basic thing to do. *00:00* Like I've got my father-in-law's copy of a legend uh the Legend of Zelda for the the NES. *00:00* less than a hundred more of them in my lifetime. *00:00* But then I look at all the games that I've actually beaten this year, like the the ratio of what I've beaten to what I've played, and it's almost a hundred percent, which has never happened in my life. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* Like, you know, saying this and this and this, but this and this and this. *00:00* think that in the first place. *00:00* I guess. *00:00* 30s, 38. *00:00* But you know, like we moved in here, and then suddenly everything closed down, a lot of my work dried up, and like I have all this time to do, like, to just figure stuff out. *00:00* It's a lot. *00:00* Like recently I just uh I got a pull-down projector screen at a yard sale for five bucks. *00:00* Introduce her to video games in some capacity. *00:00* I mean, I know if I was at your house, I'd come into the basement and be like, Oh my gosh, you know, what do I want to play? *00:00* I, you know, like I when I moved to New York and stuff like I got that internship, but I got in at a time where it was like on the cusp of being completely um accessible to everybody. *00:00* materials and stuff to like kind of understand how it works and stuff like for nothing. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* anybody. *00:00* become significantly less dumbed down because I think that people can go back and they can they can see the evolution now. *00:00* People need to to go out and make the thing. *00:00* That I it has in greatly enhanced my life and given me a lot of enjoyment, and I think is a real boon to the community of educating people. *00:00* Died or something like that. *00:00* I mean I find myself like posting on Instagram more than I did before. *00:00* in the last five years is much less than that those first five years. *00:00* An original idea I had was to try and do both of you at the same time because I haven't done that yet on on this show. *00:00* As now like we're kind of getting into like we hope to get back into like a groove where we're both like regularly coming out with videos. *00:00* Yeah, it's yeah, I like them. *00:00* Because, you know, like growing up, like I always play games. *00:00* Exactly. *00:00* and just going out like I didn't know anybody. *00:00* And uh so Try and uh Drumble were streaming on Justin. *00:00* We spent like the next year like figuring out how like how can I how can we capture this and have it look good because *00:00* And uh, you know, like that was just we did all these different tests and everything. *00:00* Now like it sounds like a lot more work, I guess. *00:00* And I'm like, well, you know, like I'm inspired by these. *00:00* Uh at at the beginning of 2014, I'm guessing. *00:00* gonna move. *00:00* So it was very much taking the complicated subject and just making it easier for people who don't understand this stuff or don't really want to like understand the uh like the ins and outs of it like *00:00* Video perspective, you know, AV, all that kind of stuff. *00:00* That's that's what makes it valuable to me. *00:00* It still has it still has save data. *00:00* When it comes down to it, like I probably have enough time to play, like maybe like at the most. *00:00* Lately, mostly because since having Eloise, my daughter, my game time has become very *00:00* narrow and focused. *00:00* And uh ironically, the uh the person who reached out to me has been was like, Oh, I've like watched your show for a long time. *00:00* And uh I wish that I I was better. *00:00* Oh my gosh. *00:00* The way that that I am, or whatever. *00:00* In hot cold. *00:00* Drastically different from those target wire shelves to where you're on. *00:00* where my favorite thing was was going and looking on the clearance racks at Home Depot. *00:00* Yeah. *00:00* And I made like I made a like an Instagram reels post on it where it's like me, I was playing Revenge of Shinobi on this big screen. *00:00* This is I was making that show because I wanted to and I found it interesting, but I also was doing it to have that body of work and make my way into this industry that I wanted to do. *00:00* Hear no a lot. *00:00* Creating in the space. *00:00* But it was like, you know, like like like Phone Dork was doing like really great videos on CRTs and stuff. *00:00* you know like the presence I guess to uh inspire people to like make that thing. *00:00* The the other f side of that coin is also the negative stuff that people say all the time too. *00:00* I and I don't know as a and maybe I don't know if you think about it like this, but I think about it with with my daughter *00:00* Eight eight to uh eight to eleven. *00:00* So I applied for like one of the members on the on the backloggery like ran a site or several members like wrote for the site called like Snack Bar Games. *00:00* I I don't as excited like doing it now. *00:00* Well I mean if everything goes like completely digital, like I'd probably get like the cheapest version of whatever console and then just like you know occasional like *00:00* And I'm I'm starting to also associate that with the cost of things. *00:00* has, you know, for several years now, but I think that like we're just like feeling like with it 'cause *00:00* You know, I can always like try to improve upon certain aspects, but how could I, you know, like play to the strength of what people like to watch from me *00:00* In all of my different moving, it's been either isolated to a closet. *00:00* But then it's just rejection after rejection after rejection because no one wanted to talk to a college student that didn't really have *00:00* Yeah, I I I cannot imagine uh just going into this marketplace without any kind of prior experience. *00:00* We don't have a super strong social uh yeah, you know, you know, presence like right now. *00:00* I actually started trying to look at that Bluetooth receiver stuff you had. *00:00* But then sometimes it's that that long, long video that's just like, ah, now I gotta sit down. *00:00* So, you know, like there wasn't a lot of people watching, but a a decent amount. *00:00* You know, have it be like if if if you know, you know. *00:00* Because I was just excited. *00:00* It just it just kind of blew up from there where we were taking something that we didn't really know too much about, but we were learning. *00:00* For like nothing. *00:00* I forget the total joke, but it was like a a poop joke was essentially the name. *00:00* make it harder to like enjoy those things in a in a way that I totally agree. *00:00* But the thing is, like, he is like he is such a good writer. *00:00* I find something like that at a uh yard sale, then it's like, oh, how can I, you know, I'm gonna spend all this time now like doing this thing. *00:00* Or like like three to five sentences, I guess. *00:00* I don't know, like the uh for some reason my mind is like saying like the HR stuff. *00:00* Who uh appreciates it, I guess. *00:00* And then I uh then I met my wife. *00:00* At my at my job uh at this post house, I mean I'd worked on a lot of like neat things, but also like a lot of the stuff I was doing more and more was the were these uh *00:00* So I was talking to Tri, I'm like, listen, I'm I want to start this YouTube channel. *00:00* And so I'm I'm playing like games like early on. *00:00* Like don't acknowledge that like, oh, I said something funny. *00:00* And uh while we were there, we're still like making videos. *00:00* I mean that's why I'm crazy about save data. *00:00* Try gets he he plays a lot more games than I do. *00:00* And you know, you're in there for like two or three days straight, you know, like learning this stuff, and you're also like networking with these people. *00:00* Because this person's like, oh, you know, like I'm a producer at MTV, like I'm working on this and this show. *00:00* But it's also like Chris and I just get along really well and people we would just like find ourselves like doing streams together sometimes *00:00* That if I had sold it, if I had sold like my childhood copy, like like I would I would I would say that I was fortunate enough to like be old enough when things like *00:00* Like I'll fit in like an hour like after people go to bed or get up early before anybody else. *00:00* And at least for now, Eloise, you know, she goes to bed at like seven thirty, so she's out and then Abby and I hang out and *00:00* And like but you know, to have that opportunity you have to uh you have to like, you know, have a body work of stuff to show and we just then we got sidetracked with like the *00:00* Uh he's he's an engine he's working as an engineer, but he recently he decided that like he just had a like a really good time like editing like some family videos and he's like thinking about leaving his job and getting into that. *00:00* Since they since Twitter got rid of the ability to use third-party apps, I I I don't use it nearly as much. *00:00* All right. *00:00* And that kind of opened up this whole thing. *00:01* So I mean I had like a a a job that I was like making normal money and I was like, oh I can like buy something. *00:01* And, you know, I started like asking about like certain production things. *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* The YouTube wasn't the destination. *00:01* So I mean it's like you can see it from like, you know, my my living my living room, right? *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* I saw in your video that you put up today the the accessories. *00:01* Right. *00:01* I mean, even looking at I mean so the first, I guess, documentary thing we did is like try sending an email to like Rand Miller, the guy who uh *00:01* It's for him. *00:01* It sounds like that you guys met through the backloggery and and Try was kind of one of the founding people behind it and you were a user, correct? *00:01* All this this stuff was just like narration. *00:01* It's not like they take up a bunch of space, but like my copy of Link to the Past that I bought, I think uh uh almost like *00:01* Movie night in the house. *00:01* I mean that is like they think it's like that's the job and like my son's like, oh you know it's I w I th I think it sounds fun because it seems like it'd be really easy. *00:01* It just it just it kind of blew up from there. *00:01* The state of retro gaming and just what came before, I think that helps me appreciate things that come *00:01* Okay. *00:01* Right. *00:01* Well I it's a little extreme, but it's like over these last few years though, you've really been, I think, building up the space. *00:01* Like we have people who are like have creative tools to do all this stuff, like at their fingertips, but the amount of people that understand like frame rates and you know like *00:01* Exactly. *00:01* That seems pretty neat. *00:01* But I've started to kinda you know, y you've pointed out your streaming and that's something that I've been I've dabbled with throughout the years, but *00:01* That's crazy. *00:01* I I believe me, I f still fight. *00:01* Yeah, five you you have no no place for it. *00:01* Like some people. *00:01* I could just like I could I could cut those takes together. *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* Like it's it's it's a weird thing, but I think that if it's if we're both releasing episodes or working on episodes together. *00:01* I mean there's a lot of stuff over here that is is your fault, frankly. *00:01* Exactly. *00:01* But that's I mean that's fine. *00:01* If if you mispronounce something, don't ask how to pronounce anything, just like how you think it should be pronounced, because that just like leads to like lends to the authenticity of it. *00:01* Uh but there's certain things that, you know, I sold off because I just like bought these games when they were either on clearance or uh *00:01* My wife still does that kind of stuff today. *00:01* Like my the Gamekeep games alone that I have are worth a fortune. *00:01* I'm I'm very familiar uh from his days at Kotaku, but I see the length of those videos. *00:01* Like I told Try. *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* So I'm like, well, you know, we have this experience because Tri was working at a college. *00:01* Like 'cause it was brand new. *00:01* Because now you can save those forever and you can you know put them on cloud services. *00:01* I guess now the thing is the open source cartridge reader, which seems to be kind of the godsend to us safe fanatics. *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* So I'm excited to see the full video. *00:01* But if you pull it up, it's completely like out of sight. *00:01* Well, there will be a link to that and My Life and Gaming in the show notes, uh, Patreon for My Life and Gaming as well. *00:01* Uh so we would do that. *00:01* So I think that that's something that we think about a lot, like in terms of like our our approach to videos. *00:01* You're really close. *00:01* I'm I really don't. *00:01* And you know, like I got it back like maybe six, seven years ago, and it was it was like five hundred dollars. *00:01* That's how I got to play like Resident Evil 3. *00:01* And he's like, I just, you know, he saw the list of games I played this year. *00:01* Because it was like built in in 1878. *00:01* 96. *00:01* I gotta do another one. *00:01* I was about to like, you know, like leave my job. *00:01* I put in my two weeks. *00:01* In a in a a 180-year-old uh house. *00:01* Uh I guess the rocking chair gets the priority. *00:01* But I mean it's just like the way that we're just able to make this like a com like a complicated process or, you know, subject. *00:01* Maybe it's because like there's been so many different changes and life changes and stuff in the last five years as opposed to that first and also like the number of videos that have come out. *00:01* That sounds like something that he had always wanted to do. *00:01* But you didn't you didn't bring Try way up and go, look, here he is struggling with this Game Boy. *00:01* Absolutely. *00:01* Yeah, and we stayed there for a long time. *00:01* Maybe I finished interning, but I was like working as a um because I was like after I finished that internship. *00:01* But with five, it's it's like cloud save only. *00:01* You balance each other out. *00:01* This house was built in 38. *00:01* And it's like, but I can do this. *00:01* It's like, oh now I can you know it's like a way to They can they can sell off your copy of Snatcher that you just bought for a thousand dollars. *00:01* Uh, you know, it's funny because usually when we're on podcasts, it's like usually both of us at the same time. *00:01* Episode? *00:01* I moved to New York, got an internship where I answered phones for three months, and then I got to take all kinds of classes. *00:01* Like, you know, uh I'm sure there there's a lot of people out there that could talk about how, you know, like oh, you know, I I played this RPG and I got to the last dungeon, I quit. *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* But it was it was bas it was that shot of Link and a Link to the Past and it's just like composite video and then the sharp RGP. *00:01* Try has the boxes. *00:01* 2000, 2001. *00:01* Yeah. *00:01* And that led to the website in this show and and chapter select and stuff. *00:01* When you're just like making these videos like in your basement, it's hard to see like that. *00:01* Like I do like I respond to I handle a lot of that stuff. *00:01* You know, and and just kind of kind of do that. *00:01* So I've I felt like, you know, like I'm doing certain videos, and it's like I need to make it at least so that it's like good enough. *00:01* So I think that that's why that video resonated so much is because it just was the right place at the right time and people were interested in this. *00:01* Like the one that kills me the most is my childhood fantasy star save. *00:01* But at the same time, I think and I think that this is something that is is beneficial to having two hosts for a show on a channel. *00:01* It almost doesn't seem real because you're not like and like and we get that a lot when we go to a convention. *00:01* That's that's extremely lucky. *00:02* Uh, you know, I discovered that site at pretty much the like the perfect time in my life. *00:02* Well, in the city part of it, I'm sure there's room upstate. *00:02* And then ultimately it just led to me keeping everything anyway. *00:02* I I think a lot about Pokemon Diamond on the DS. *00:02* Yeah, that's I think that's part of why I haven't like rebought diamond or or platinum or anything like that because *00:02* I just I wake up and that's my time to play. *00:02* You know, I always talk about how um you know, the thing that I struggle with the most, like in terms of like making videos and everything, is is is the writing aspect. *00:02* Cause even then, like, you know, game documentary stuff was not huge. *00:02* But but then it's like I had a pod I've had multiple podcasts and I've killed a lot of them. *00:02* And all like also like as detailed of a writer as he is. *00:02* But we'll see. *00:02* I eventually had my GameCube shipped out when like Metal Gear Solid twin snakes came out. *00:02* You send me a voiceover and I'll edit it. *00:02* There certainly wasn't any sort of uh filters and stuff that you could just like apply to this footage to make it look like this. *00:02* So was all your old consoles just in a tote back at home? *00:02* You know, it's just I'm I'm happy now that I that I kept it though. *00:02* Like I would probably just I probably would just like stick with the mister and just play the things that I wanted to play, but the stuff that I like the old stuff that I have is just like sentimental things. *00:02* Um, you know, will look like. *00:02* Um with very so if I see cellophane on the shelf, it's like, ah, I haven't played that yet. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* Well, uh I mean people have been asking for it for at least three years, but you know, it's *00:02* Because watching that tour, which was it was a Patreon exclusive, is about forty-five minutes. *00:02* To be clear, I mean there's a lot more going on here. *00:02* Unless I like really have an idea of like what I want to do where I you know I hook up the m like the misser to it. *00:02* And and at that time I was doing those things just more casually, but then in a pursuit of a journalism degree that *00:02* And so, you know, I left the site that I was at, dual shockers at the time, I left that and kind of just was very casually. *00:02* But that's that's the lie that you cannot buy into because you guys didn't start out this good. *00:02* Like I just want to out I just want to make and like put it out myself. *00:02* I mean that sounds like a lot of fun. *00:02* It's like so I'm seven. *00:02* And I think it was when we were at Magfest then in in January of uh twenty fourteen that we I think we went to like a retro retroware TV panel. *00:02* I didn't want to leave and then when it was like when we're leaving, especially like after getting laid off from the job from the job I had had for like seven years. *00:02* For the longest time, that was our biggest video. *00:02* Well these guys don't know what sync on Luma means. *00:02* I think one of the things that really captivated me, besides like Kotaku's image for that article, is really I don't even know if it'll load with all the *00:02* So I mean, but like at the time I had no I was just trying to raise this money for one, and I didn't know that it would even be *00:02* And so I'm kind of like been I've been toying with the idea of tackling some longer project games I've wanted to play throughout the year. *00:02* You know, like you just want it to be like, hey, I want to enjoy this thing. *00:02* I totally get it. *00:02* It's more about just like the the process of doing it. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* All in real time. *00:02* Like the the how to beat stuff was narrated by Tri's boss who is like an old news guy. *00:02* And I'm like, well, you know what? *00:02* And you know, like my daughter was getting close to two and we were thinking about having a second. *00:02* And I mean one of the reasons we made that video is because it took a lot of research on our part, but we were just like looking at like walls of text. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* And I was like, Oh yeah, of course. *00:02* And I think there's some people that, you know you know, like like one one approach more than the other. *00:02* It came out the release date of this house was nineteen ninety seven, which is the same year that I graduated from high school. *00:02* Like two and a half hours or something. *00:02* I was like at the time I was um I had I was freelancing for years, like after I finished that internship, and then I had got a staff job at a post post production house. *00:02* And that's just essentially a slideshow. *00:02* I'm just gonna like restructure the script a little bit. *00:02* Uh it's out of your life. *00:02* From mm the target wire racks to, you know, you've got these floating shelves now with all your consoles and *00:02* I mean we every episode is formatted where it's just like you know, it could be 20 minutes into the episode before we do like an intro. *00:02* That's really good for Holy smokes, that's fast. *00:02* Had to fit it in. *00:02* So I could you know when I first moved there I only brought my uh my Game Boy Advance. *00:02* Like I just want to play more games. *00:02* It was gonna be called like My Life in Games. *00:02* The I kind of want to talk to you a little bit about this too, the modern world of saves. *00:02* I just want to I I only buy things that I would be interested in playing eventually. *00:02* And it's like, ah, the Resident Evil 3 remake. *00:02* And I I mean I feel like that about like writing and stuff. *00:02* Uh I mean there's a lot of things that were I mean, the people who lived here before it was mainly empty. *00:02* I'm like, I'm just gonna buy all of them. *00:02* I remember even at one time applying to be like write news for okay, I say it wrong. *00:02* I think they're all really cool. *00:02* And I bought it and I hadn't played it yet. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* You don't want to let just any old Joe off the street come in and shoot an interview with folks. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* You've got some it expanded to an unsustainable level, I think so. *00:02* It's I like the range of lengths of videos that you guys do because as a viewer *00:02* It was just like it was encouraging, you know, people to like play the games that they that they bought. *00:02* And it's like really hard to keep up with that, right? *00:02* And I had never caught that before. *00:02* It's October thirtieth of twenty thirteen. *00:02* I know the I know the struggle. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* Here's how it does it, like at a base level. *00:02* I'm like, you know, you there's like so many services, just just start making stuff and put it out there and hope that people see it. *00:02* And I mean as time has gone on, like our our our dumb downness has like *00:02* It is. *00:02* And I was listening to uh uh WTF with Mark Marin. *00:02* So you have this time and uh you know like they're just like losing clients and then I was like like literally days before I was gonna *00:02* We never anticipated it being anything else. *00:02* And then from there, it's just big people saying, like, oh, do you want to like like how do you do this? *00:02* Like save like save file backup. *00:02* I'd I had clients who like came and like followed me from New York and was like were working with me remotely during that, like after I got laid off and stuff. *00:02* I'm sure they're there, but it's clean it looks clean over there from the video shots to, you know *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* And if I get the opportunity to talk to someone like you or any of the guests that I've talked to, from friends that I've known for years to to new people. *00:02* And just like as more things like have d have yeah, but you know, when we're both like, you know, rolling on something, then it makes it a lot easier. *00:02* Those glasses, those XR glasses were really fun episode. *00:02* So I just think I had like video games in too many parts of my life. *00:02* That was I'm not. *00:02* But then we went for like a weekend to see some friends and I'm like, I love it here. *00:02* I really a lot of people were like, you need to get rid of it. *00:02* It was still new at the time, so I got it brand new. *00:02* I mean th that's what I mean about like knowing what I at the time like knowing what the kind of games that I liked. *00:02* I'm like, oh gosh. *00:02* And so it I think it's just a shift in perspective. *00:02* That's been really fun. *00:02* You know, like you release that video, like who knows? *00:02* Right. *00:02* But I backed it up. *00:02* I mean I have it on the on the a uh Xbox. *00:02* What you want to do. *00:02* All right. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* Well, wait, maybe not in 2013. *00:02* So I totally know the struggle. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* Um I'm pretty much only playing stuff for my other podcast, Chapter Select. *00:02* And I did kind of a little homage to that. *00:02* It was it was it I don't know like I just saw like it it it made it so that there's there was a point in time *00:02* But I mean it's like, you know, it's on the floor over there. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* Okay. *00:02* I because for the longest time I wanted to, you know, I my job that I wanted to do was be a video game journalist. *00:02* And so I think after seven episodes I was kind of done with that show. *00:02* Yeah somehow. *00:02* I'm your host, Max Roberts, and I'm joined this time by the other half of my life in gaming, Corey Carlson. *00:02* It's always uh really exciting when things like something unexpected like that happens. *00:02* So yeah, I mean we just started doing like I did that Klonoa and stuff. *00:02* Okay. *00:02* You know, I wanted to move into a house that was newer because I was just getting sick of dealing with *00:02* It feels like a very long list now of different people, um, even though it's only 30 some odd episodes. *00:02* Yeah. *00:02* It's free years a s uh low leave subscription fee and it's just yeah. *00:02* I'm like, well, I'm nowhere near as good as these people. *00:02* Uh I've been watching you guys for nine years now and a happy early 10th anniversary. *00:03* It's I it's interesting to look back. *00:03* But I could like back them up. *00:03* And he's like, you just gotta play more. *00:03* And it's like it's it's it makes it even more challenging because Try is a very good writer *00:03* Obviously that's a little bit further away just because she's just figuring out how to stand up, all right. *00:03* He's like done some shorts and stuff like that and like done some other stuff. *00:03* Yeah, exactly, exactly. *00:03* You never know. *00:03* People are like, oh man, it's like it's like hanging out with you guys, like watching this stream, you guys should do a podcast. *00:03* It's an eight four, so it's not a lot, but it meets my needs. *00:03* It's and especially like then, you know, it seemed like, you know, this this thing better be good because I don't think I can return it. *00:03* You know? *00:03* And we're asking everybody like that like does something for the site to do it like in their medium. *00:03* Like a nostalgia thing, you know, like it was in certain aspects but *00:03* So I feel like just figure out time. *00:03* I mean it's it's it's hard to get just there is like there's so many opportunities to like get your stuff out there. *00:03* Given the way some things have been going, I imagine it only will keep going up. *00:03* I've I've watched a lot of videos lately and you have quite the cable had at least quite the cable situation in the attic. *00:03* I would like to make something that feels like this. *00:03* It was kind of just like the source of like where the videos were posted. *00:03* They laid me off and they said, oh we'll also give you like like uh two months severance. *00:03* Oh my gosh. *00:03* Gotcha. *00:03* I was tired of hot swapping component cables. *00:03* I mean they were streaming like before like before Twitch was a thing. *00:03* We did a couple of those and then I did a video on the first Star Fox, which was the first time that *00:03* So I did that and and I made um another episode at the same time and like I just like edited them at the same time. *00:03* I mean, I just but I just didn't have any room or like any desire really to like get these systems out. *00:03* Like barely barely making it. *00:03* Yeah. *00:03* I mean kids just wanna they they want experiences not challenge, it seems like, which is understandable. *00:03* And that makes sense, yeah. *00:03* So this that was the first time I'm recording my voiceover and editing these things, and I got real into it, right? *00:03* And then I had like a master system in eighty six, didn't have an NES until like until eighty-seven, as my brothers. *00:03* That's good. *00:03* And we just we wanted it to feel like the authentic like 'cause we're I mean, I think if you look at like our whole body of work. *00:03* Like 'cause he had a great site at the time even. *00:03* Which is like a super like it now, even then it was still getting like really expensive, but you know, she had been living there long enough that um *00:03* She loves it. *00:03* Yeah, it's it's just perfectly isolated. *00:03* I I do uh in a weird way. *00:03* I feel like people don't think about these the save datas all that much. *00:03* But I mean it's like that is like definitely something that I struggle with. *00:03* He just like only like he doesn't never had Facebook or anything. *00:03* It used to be it's funny because we recently uh YouTube added this ability to put all of your live streams like under it. *00:03* And then I got like like eight views. *00:03* So I think that that like that just connected with a lot of people very much right place at the right time. *00:03* And so I just kept watching and be like, even if I don't even have the system, right? *00:03* Like once, you know, once my wife and I like were serious and we like moved into e I I moved into uh in the her apartment. *00:03* Uh when I was in college, there was this one website where you could fill out surveys and they would give you like Anim Amazon. *00:03* I got that and Ranger and I think Mystery Dungeon Blue Rescue Team. *00:03* Okay. *00:03* So I mean that's just like you just gotta do it. *00:03* And and more times than not, people are saying like, I'm sorry that I was *00:03* I mean. *00:03* Yeah, no, thank you so much. *00:03* And then you've got your, you know, normal stuff like an hour-long video on the LGC2 or your two-hour 40-minute Mr. *00:03* And just hanging out in those streams, I would get to know more people in the community. *00:03* We should try to be on camera. *00:03* Yes. *00:03* Or at least that's what I tell myself. *00:03* That's the one that I remember seeing. *00:03* I was like, I need something short, but to fill like a gap. *00:03* Exactly. *00:03* And it's it's cool to see that. *00:03* I feel like I'm decent at it. *00:03* Like like l like League of Legends type stuff, right? *00:03* You know, it's like, you know There's some shows I listen to that do that, yeah. *00:03* So, you know. *00:03* But the program that I used like went out of like stopped being used basically right after I finished school. *00:03* And we had no interest in like being on camera ourselves. *00:03* I mean that I think that was the video. *00:03* Or there's like uh like a like a punching bag, like a *00:03* I was like, imagine having the ability to be able to do this. *00:03* Yeah, absolutely. *00:03* It's just the growing pains are kind of obnoxious. *00:03* I started playing more games and eventually got like a a Wii and got Super Mario Galaxy. *00:03* It's like, well, we're either staying up late with a coffee or we're waking up even earlier, you know, because *00:03* So it's like all in one contained space. *00:03* They just need to keep making things. *00:03* And it's like weird like having uh the *00:03* Well, I think that does it for this episode. *00:03* So you can head over to chapterselect. *00:03* Cause you have to watch the tape. *00:03* Now you should laugh. *00:03* It it's cardboard. *00:03* Uh so Amazon wasn't even like nearly what it was. *00:03* It just got them straight up like basically for free. *00:03* Like like I said sold like Suicid and one, two, and three for it as a bundle for eighty bucks. *00:03* I totally agree with you. *00:03* Like that kid, that was his thing. *00:03* Like Yeah. *00:03* It's crazy. *00:03* See if there's any scoops or anything in there. *00:03* I it was just I just wanted to like figure out how to do this. *00:03* Yeah. *00:03* It came out the next week. *00:03* And you know, it's it's very, very much like being in the right place at the right time. *00:03* And it's so basically and at that time I would have been, I think, high school col early college. *00:03* There was no way to do this. *00:03* There are totes over here and they're like, well, but at least I have my own room now essentially, this detached garage. *00:03* I like this game and I'm gonna you know, like I got both those games day one. *00:03* But I'm I'm imagining physical stuff's out of the way and that I feel like that's gonna just trickle down to save data and then we're not gonna be able to *00:03* Like before anybody was up, you know, getting some time in, like playing so and so or working on, you know, something like show related. *00:03* Yeah. *00:03* Um that's what it was. *00:03* And you know, like like Chris is you know, he's like two years older than me, so we it's it's very rarely about video games. *00:03* Yeah. *00:03* And it's it's crazy to me now because like there's so many people like *00:03* Okay. *00:03* And so when I was thirteen, I was like, please can I just play Pokemon again *00:03* Take take something that's that's uh full time, please. *00:03* Yes. *00:03* But it's like for me, it's just, you know, I would just like figure out times to fit it in. *00:03* And uh he's like, you know, I'm gonna be on a family vacation like close to where Cyan Studios is. *00:03* But I mean, so he like handles a lot of that, but I handle like a lot of the uh *00:03* And where are you at now? *00:03* I want to say probably I mean that that's that's not entirely true because there were certain games that came out *00:04* Like there was no YouTube or anything. *00:04* And then we started like just talking and then like DMing through the site and became friends that way because like we both had these uh *00:04* And I was like, okay, so like if we want to do this, like what are some ideas that if we want to like release a video every week *00:04* You know, it's like a way to, you know, see these games in motion. *00:04* Okay. *00:04* I call it yeah, me too. *00:04* And then they offered a full time job and *00:04* So I put that on there and I just like ran it. *00:04* You don't even know it's there. *00:04* I mean you guys really *00:04* And when I moved to New York City, I was just like really, really focused on *00:04* So I just was going out a bunch and just like meeting different people, like really really pushing myself out of my comfort zone, I think, at the time. *00:04* You know, it came out right before we went to Magfest, I think. *00:04* And I'm kinda like, maybe now maybe now's the time to do it. *00:04* You know, like there's like a drop ceiling. *00:04* But I mean, talk to me about packing up the attic. *00:04* So I'm sure that they'll like they might sell it off this first opportunity they have. *00:04* Cool. *00:04* That's like when we kind of like up and you know moved to the Midwest, moved to like *00:04* Because we're releasing like every week, every other week at that point. *00:04* Yeah, I I uh also know what that's like. *00:04* I I don't have the have the space for it, unfortunately. *00:04* I honestly can't even tell you what I bought with it. *00:04* I can change these batteries and put the save back on. *00:04* It drives me crazy. *00:04* I'm like, you know what? *00:04* Um I mean I feel like the last five years have felt *00:04* You know, it was just like a good community. *00:04* So I was doing that a couple of times, and that was fine. *00:04* Like and I'm like, okay, so I'm what I'm gonna do, I don't have a lot of time *00:04* And it is still I mean, yeah, it still exists, but I mean this was like two thousand *00:04* It's always been with me with that save file on it. *00:04* Yes. *00:04* I feel I feel like even as time goes on, I become like less confident in my writing and I find myself going back and rewriting things or just like *00:04* I mean it all works out and creates the style of the show, which is one that I certainly love. *00:04* Like he'll go back to like old videos and stuff a lot. *00:04* So I mean if they want if people want to check out Instagram, but we also I mean I created a blue sky account. *00:04* I wish I and I don't have the means to back up the NES though. *00:04* And like I think that, you know, if it was my job, like having it become your job like takes I think a lot of joy out of it. *00:04* Sure. *00:04* Or if you catch it, you catch it. *00:04* That's where like a lot of people got their start. *00:04* Yeah. *00:04* And when we moved in together, she moved out of the upstairs and we moved into the bottom floor of this two family house, which was like actually like pretty big for where it was especially. *00:04* But man, I like that was one of the last things that I sold. *00:04* It's I that's actually one of the things I do now is when I buy a cart game. *00:04* So you know, my buddy who I do the show with, he's in games media, so he plays way more. *00:04* I thought I had a lot of stuff going on. *00:04* My son gave me ten daughters. *00:04* Yeah. *00:04* But it is it's a complete disaster. *00:04* Uh so I like imported it. *00:04* You know, like this crew. *00:04* Now take all these motion graphics that I spent all this time and nobody saw and I'm going to like *00:04* Uh but now that's jumping up another twenty bucks a year. *00:04* When you when you break it down. *00:04* It's like, well, I'm I've spent the money on this. *00:04* I'm like, I don't have the time, dude. *00:04* Which is like where a lot of that comes in. *00:04* You know what I mean? *00:04* Right. *00:04* I mean my my kids think it's cool, but it's like I got this projector *00:04* Um, but then you know, I'd throw in smaller people that I found interesting as well. *00:04* I don't know. *00:04* It's like I can't even like understand what it's like it's like so competitive that you've got to be so good. *00:04* Uh most of the time. *00:04* But I mean, you know, ca I don't know. *00:04* But they're all time coded now. *00:04* And that one, I think you might appreciate this. *00:04* And I just I got an internship in New York, moved from uh western New York. *00:04* We dated for a long time. *00:04* Going back now. *00:04* And she's like, uh, we have some friends like in Cincinnati. *00:04* A lot of trial and error, like if I could just see like the real results and like just have somebody talking to me about it. *00:04* And but you guys like keeping me informed made me at least understand that I need to keep this until I can afford *00:04* I was like, let's do it. *00:04* You've got the new one, the like the the latest one with the screen and stuff. *00:04* That turns out to be one of my favorite Resident Evil games of out of all of them, now that I've played all the mainline ones. *00:04* Um because in the evenings I do go to bed like 10 o'clock. *00:04* And it's not like really anyone ever comes to hang out, except this month. *00:04* I don't I'm not sure if you're familiar with like uh like Tim Rogers and Action Button. *00:04* I've I like, you know, I like each one of your videos, whether they're together or individual. *00:04* Like I want to just I wanna do it and make it work and then *00:04* It's crazy, just the rate at which people uh can learn to do crazy stuff. *00:04* Uh stuff that I like knew that I needed to wanted to play like desperately. *00:04* Yeah. *00:04* But I'm like, oh this is really cool when I saw like the final edit because we both like *00:04* And I love I've loved over these last two episodes really hearing about it and exploring it between the two of you. *00:04* If you you can pay money for like GPU acceleration, but you can get the base *00:04* Oh gosh. *00:04* Gosh, like the Castle Evolution remake. *00:04* I think that's so and that's that's a great example of it. *00:04* And the 300 is just like all this you know all the extra stuff that can kind of go around like you know that it just play a part in this whole scene. *00:04* He like you know he's he's he's very, very he's a very good writer, and I wish that I was able to write like *00:04* So I had like a motorized spinner that was uh *00:04* So I mean uh you know, there's it goes crazy. *00:04* I mean, my the closet in my daughter's room, thankfully, you know, a baby has no need for a bunch of storage. *00:04* You know, it's they're very busy people and they have things to do. *00:04* I didn't know anybody there. *00:04* It already sells for more than you would expect, I think. *00:04* I can uh edit stuff. *00:04* Get out of here. *00:04* He's like, the only things you have you've played that aren't for the show are like Death's Door and Inside. *00:04* I'm still you tell me if you remember, how'd you how'd you do the shot where you're changing you're changing your position? *00:04* So but now *00:04* So I mean that's I mean that's that's in your future if Roblox is still around. *00:04* And I think that they were immediately like, oh, okay, like I feel like I can. *00:04* Tell him like don't do that. *00:04* Neat. *00:04* So it was it took it took a long time to get to that point. *00:04* Oh yeah, yeah. *00:04* Because I mean I'm sure you s like it happens to channels all the time where, you know, like they'll release something and then it's like *00:04* I would like like how cool would it be to like interview like game creators? *00:04* And he was like way into the idea. *00:04* Just just tell me what cable I need, what box I need, and here's how I get it on my TV. *00:04* Isn't it pretty cool that it can do this? *00:04* So it's and I was born 1978. *00:04* Yeah, I was uh I liked it a lot. *00:04* Oh, I believe. *00:04* But I mean I mean that's why I always say it like we were so lucky to have been *00:04* Stuff like that. *00:04* And I had recently played Gears of War, the first one, uh, at a friend's house. *00:04* But, you know, like the idea of just like kind of doing it by yourself is like *00:04* Like I'm a you know I'm like eight years old when the uh when the NES comes out or when I have an NES. *00:04* You know, it's like there's like all these other things that go along with it. *00:04* Okay. *00:04* Well, it never goes the way you think it's gonna. *00:04* Or like, you know, if I if I *00:04* Yeah. *00:04* And it was right around this time that I discovered the backloggery. *00:05* He was like, oh, I had to like film this thing. *00:05* And um I mean I'm I'm forty four, so like I'm a little bit older than Tri is. *00:05* So right before Halloween, right in that November window. *00:05* So in all of this, you know, your setup videos and others, because I was getting ready to design out this space, this detached. *00:05* But I think that the good thing is is that you know our the quality of our videos, like our *00:05* I'm at least okay enough. *00:05* Oh yeah, yeah. *00:05* The college that he went to is doing video uh for them and and editing and stuff. *00:05* You know, we don't don't call it out. *00:05* So I had to really talk quietly. *00:05* Mm-hmm. *00:05* Yeah, yeah, I mean everything like pre PS5 you can back up to a USB stick if you want. *00:05* And it's just like it is insane. *00:05* So we adjust to the first time. *00:05* That's cool. *00:05* It's like we put like sleeping bags down and stuff. *00:05* Um I say Iran. *00:05* But when I get that no, it's it's like, ah, that's a bummer. *00:05* It's just for a free download. *00:05* You're in the 30s? *00:05* Uh I really, really appreciate it. *00:05* Absolutely. *00:05* I would have been in high school then. *00:05* Right. *00:05* Uh but I imagine the cost of living where you are is less than New York. *00:05* And from from then on, I've been a a my life in gaming subscriber and you know. *00:05* And I mean I think that's how a lot of this stuff is. *00:05* So that's where like the sync uh video comes from. *00:05* But when I moved to New York, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go through and just figure out what the stuff that I uh that I don't have these attachment to, like what can I sell? *00:05* I don't think that's true at all. *00:05* But what I did is I I put my cam I mounted my camera to a *00:05* Down here, honestly. *00:05* I'm so curious about folks like you *00:05* Oh yeah. *00:05* And really it is it's just it's a podcast about nothing. *00:05* I mean you guys just, as we're recording this, you guys just put up another episode about accessories. *00:05* It was getting out of control. *00:05* Or it's it it well it's very hard to keep yourself um *00:05* Keep that motivation going. *00:05* So that video came out like probably in in January. *00:05* I have uh sh my daughter turns one tomorrow and we were in an apartment and so *00:05* But it was so fascinating to me from a a tech perspective. *00:05* GameKeep's really booming right now. *00:05* And like I mean I think I made a tweet about at the time. *00:05* I could play more than that if I really like pushed into it. *00:05* We're getting ready to record X and Y. *00:05* Still people just doing their own things, like maybe using like movie maker to string clips together. *00:05* Mm-hmm. *00:05* I think it's so hilarious. *00:05* I have the same thing and I've I've sold a lot of stuff *00:05* Like you can make backups of the backups. *00:05* If I'm gonna put the time in, I'm gonna see it all the way through. *00:05* Fill the cart. *00:05* Okay. *00:05* So it's like, why even? *00:05* That's crazy. *00:05* It's never it's never us like drawing attention to it. *00:05* Or m early on. *00:05* But if I was to get rid of those *00:05* Get it done. *00:05* 'Cause I I do like some speed ramping on it where it speeds up and then slows down to show me doing something. *00:05* Yeah. *00:05* Can you just like like we talked about earlier, like Windows Movie Maker was kind of like the tool that was accessible to everyone? *00:05* But yeah, uh thanks for having me on. *00:05* And my like the place that I worked at, like, has slowly been getting uh *00:05* And you, I mean, you definitely probably have way more save datas than I do, and obviously the means my big gap is the N64. *00:05* If you want to play something bad enough, you'll figure out a you'll make it work. *00:05* Like I learned how to like install uh *00:05* And I I relate because, you know, *00:05* Um that's what I say. *00:05* Then we when we got engaged and like then we're about to get married, I was like, okay, like maybe I'll like kind of *00:05* Like like it doesn't seem like it's that hard. *00:05* With all the different revisions and sounds and and then I feel like I'm just naturally learning more and more and more and becoming aware of *00:05* Yeah. *00:05* Yes. *00:05* It's just I not that whoever owned it before can ever find me. *00:05* And like that's the kind of people that are that are needed. *00:05* And I haven't used it on the iPad, and I understand there's deficit differences between that and like the version on *00:05* What what kind of new gear are the guys playing with? *00:05* I mean that's something I feel like I might want to do a full video on in the future. *00:05* It's like I don't even care. *00:05* I was like exporting like 320 by 240 video files out where people could download them. *00:05* Would you want to do this with me? *00:05* I was using Movie Maker in in those years. *00:05* Yeah, like you you have like a a lore to why these tips even exist. *00:05* Yeah. *00:05* But I know I know when, you know, oh I gotta be really *00:05* And uh, you know, he his on-camera is the first on-camera appearance. *00:05* The stuff that we the stuff that we collect now is so *00:05* And you know, it kills I mean like the secret of mana and like specifically like *00:05* Like was the character name. *00:05* I get maybe an hour a day, maybe. *00:05* Is you know uh *00:05* Like it's just like it just does not even it doesn't even begin to like register of like how you like *00:05* Like and and like observes things. *00:05* So that makes sense. *00:05* I mean, a decent amount is probably like under 50. *00:05* Now I'm like, I wish I still had my Metroid Zero Mission box. *00:05* That's a thing that I've really come to realize over the past couple of years. *00:05* Yeah. *00:05* Like there was like the icons show on G4 or something like that. *00:05* Yes, and and work on it, but also uh like if he has like an engineer's mind *00:05* And then, you know, like they *00:05* Although, you know, I think that it's annoying for some people because that stuff gets put onto the algorithm when you *00:05* I think but the I would I would say the the quality and scope of them have uh *00:05* And uh then they asked, they said, you know, you know, all of our different people on our team are saying like, you know, like what is like the game, like *00:05* Yeah. *00:05* Right. *00:05* Right. *00:05* And uh you know, like having that be your job is not like, oh, you're just playing it and then you're moving on. *00:05* Yes. *00:05* Yes. *00:05* And uh and all they want to do is play Roblox on their iPad. *00:05* Yeah, yeah. *00:05* He's like, you know, I have a friend who uh *00:05* You know, do you want to come in here and like load in footage? *00:05* And that was like That was cool. *00:05* This is a digestible thing. *00:05* Yeah. *00:05* And uh I just got those all queued up. *00:05* Even though, you know, like I I tend to say, oh, I've I have a curated collection. *00:05* It's like I have that you know, like the that *00:05* I'm like, oh yeah, I could like run my wires like behind like the drywall. *00:05* I mean, uh, this is roughly about the same square footage as I had in the old place. *00:05* So I mean there's just like lots of other things that I'm doing. *00:05* But it's uh *00:05* It's it's like such a weird feeling, I guess. *00:06* And you know, I think at the time also *00:06* And Tri told me about in the analog pocket video how you left the clip of him *00:06* So I was able to like work on writing scripts and stuff while I was at work. *00:06* And we had this idea of like, well, what if we did like a video just like talking about like how we capture footage? *00:06* But it's just, I don't know. *00:06* And it's like, man, I wish I like had that. *00:06* Yeah, it's like break the numbers down. *00:06* If he really wants to do that, what he would be s it would be smart for him to do *00:06* Yeah. *00:06* So he can get into this stuff. *00:06* So thank you so much, Corey, for joining me uh today, taking time out of your day to do this show. *00:06* I mean sometimes we *00:06* And the picture was of the unit, just units. *00:06* And there would be like websites like Retroware TV that would where people would make videos on YouTube and but they would post them all on this site. *00:06* But we were like, okay, so let's try to do like this how we capture footage. *00:06* But we made this this uh it was like called uh *00:06* You know, like I'm sad that I like lost that. *00:06* You know? *00:06* Yeah. *00:06* So I think you're absolutely right. *00:06* So it was those four different houses. *00:06* They watch it, they see it, and they're like, ah, I want to be, I want to do YouTube. *00:06* com to learn more about that and check out the show. *00:06* And because there was a point where we were releasing like either every week or every other week. *00:06* I thought it was a creative angle. *00:06* You know? *00:06* Right, but I mean a lot of them were they weren't that long, you know. *00:06* And that's because like I was when I was still living in New York, uh my daughter was *00:06* Yeah. *00:06* It's more like, hey, we can you can dump your ROMs and play 'em in emulators, honestly. *00:06* So I was going to bed at like midnight. *00:06* Like all it does is like *00:06* I think like, oh, I wish that I could do this and this and this. *00:06* Yeah. *00:06* And I had this idea for like the because at the time I was listening to podcasts, I was listening to um *00:06* Oh, that was that was absolutely the video. *00:06* Exactly. *00:06* But GameStop's giving me 40 bucks for Pokemon Diamond. *00:06* So uh that was I was like, I I I guess I'll sell this one. *00:06* He was you know poopy or whatever. *00:06* But there is like so much more going on. *00:06* You're and it is, yeah. *00:06* Uh so but I didn't really play any games for many years and *00:06* You know, if people watch it, they do. *00:06* And I mean people like a bunch of people like early on like were posting there all the time. *00:06* Yeah, or like dumbing it down to the point where, you know, it's *00:06* I've always been someone who keeps boxes and games and consoles and *00:06* And that was that was kind of my gateway to realizing like, oh, I can actually, you know, back up this save data. *00:06* I mean that's that's the march of progress, I guess. *00:06* I mean that just goes back to like the backloggery. *00:06* I mean that's that that is what it is, you know, compared to because the last place I was in an attic. *00:06* Because the you never know what you're gonna find. *00:06* I'm like, uh please no. *00:06* And that yeah, it's helped me a lot and it's made me kind of reclaim *00:06* I mean, I you know, I talk about this a lot. *00:06* You know, like it just exists. *00:06* Good job. *00:06* Although, you know, like I I don't keep my system boxes. *00:06* I mean I like I always joke about like getting up *00:06* Um but, you know, so there's the New York apartment. *00:06* Let's go. *00:06* I was like, wow, that's so cool. *00:06* Do they? *00:06* And so now I feel when I get a know for this show, *00:06* It's too much space. *00:06* Well, I mean I attribute a lot of that to the fact that so we moved into this house *00:06* Like fifteen dollars each *00:06* And someone just needs to give you a chance. *00:06* Like people that worked at like MTV and all this other stuff, like producers and stuff. *00:06* Uh I just have to release them. *00:06* And then I um *00:06* Oh yeah. *00:06* I'm like, oh, I wonder if like he's just gonna *00:06* So I mean *00:06* And just like having that first cup of coffee and just like sitting in a recliner and playing a game for a while. *00:06* Like I wasn't I also didn't want to like deal with moving and then when we found the house when we found this, you know, like I saw the basement. *00:06* Like so, you know. *00:06* And it took right. *00:06* I applied there, but then it was like to be a writer for MOBA games, which is like *00:06* And I was uh *00:06* And that's that that is like that's a really discouraging thing. *00:06* Yeah. *00:06* And I think that I was on the uh upper end of of the age scale. *00:06* But I mean at the time I didn't feel like there was like super *00:06* And it did uh it did *00:06* I even included it *00:06* But anyways, I was doing I did that Star Fox video, did not appear in it. *00:06* Like you guys like, what can I prep while I'm getting ready to move so that it can *00:06* Whereas like you know, you got your like your 100 levels, like the basic subjects. *00:06* And so there's, you know, as soon as I figured out that I could like back up all my Game Boy Advance games *00:06* Same thing with the Super Nintendo carts, you know, with the with the uh Super NT *00:06* I'm going to to play it. *00:06* But uh I mean there's like other stuff, but it you know, like *00:06* Like like the bi yeah, yeah, very much so. *00:06* It's you know, like it's it's kind of surreal like watching some of those early videos. *00:06* Yeah, yeah. *00:06* I'm just gonna like stop watching. *00:06* I mean, I think some of looking at some of your more recent *00:06* Okay. *00:06* So we did like the 102, the showing like how we had things hooked up. *00:06* You know, so *00:06* But so do they *00:06* I think that was something that no one was really doing. *00:06* But uh I mean if you know people can find find me on there and I also do a uh podcast with uh *00:06* But Tri was like I want to figure out how to capture this stuff because I can I'm streaming it and I wanna make it look better if I can. *00:06* But uh so we're like, well, you know, let's try being on camera. *00:06* Okay. *00:06* And that that's kind of what a lot of this turned into is that, you know, if we didn't know about a subject *00:06* It's more fun to go back and like look at that old save and you know like see what you named your *00:06* And that's a *00:06* So I was in these classes with these people. *00:06* This is Eloise's inheritance, whether she likes it or not. *00:06* I'll I'll occasionally post things on on Twitter. *00:06* Oh, or 44. *00:06* Season six is going on right now, and it's all about Pokemon. *00:06* Yeah, you get a nice excited about the price and all the rest of the shit. *00:06* And I'm like, you know, this was really fun to do this. *00:06* But early years on YouTube, it was definitely movie maker. *00:06* So I got stuff like Sweeken and Two. *00:06* Stuff like that. *00:06* Final Fan F Final Fantasy III or like Chrono Trigger came out, I was lucky enough to *00:06* That was my first Pokemon game. *00:06* You know, this all this stuff was just like clearance stuff. *00:06* And the channel is ten. *00:06* But one that I did was behind the pixel, which actually those interviews are back in this feed just so they can exist somewhere on the internet. *00:06* And they learn like more con like like a college course. *00:06* It's like, oh, it's so nice to like see people. *00:06* Good for him. *00:06* So I really like it because either way I'm getting *00:06* Yeah. *00:06* We prefer to just uh *00:06* Yes. *00:06* Mine was I put it on this *00:06* And it's just like, you know, Revenge of Snowy just blown up on this big screen. *00:06* I mean maybe maybe when he's *00:06* And I'm like, oh, he's like in the video production. *00:07* So *00:07* Especially like early on, right? *00:07* And *00:07* Mm-hmm. *00:07* They'd only like started selling other things than books. *00:07* And there's not *00:07* Uh-huh. *00:07* But I mean it's like I don't have *00:07* Yeah, yeah. *00:07* Yeah, it all builds. *00:07* Eventually, you know *00:07* Right. *00:07* Would you want to go and check it out and see what it's like? *00:07* And I have like more than like like multiple lifetimes of stuff that I could *00:07* Like during a pandemic where they were, you know, like it was like a a company was switching to like doing things virtually. *00:07* And like here's how you can do it. *00:07* And I didn't move it or anything like that. *00:07* Yeah. *00:07* Right. *00:07* Which is just *00:07* And then kids are getting access to that sooner and they're just *00:07* He'll just like look at the recent comments and he'll respond to stuff with like very elaborately. *00:07* Well, you know, like *00:07* Uh the next one coming out will be Sword and Shield. *00:07* Two hours and forty minutes, yeah. *00:07* But then I was like, no, I'd I want to talk to them both. *00:07* I was gonna say I can't see a single cable. *00:07* Uh but you know it's just *00:07* Like I had no idea like a lot of this stuff in even existed, but it's like so cool and like now it's it's something that *00:07* Um it's crazy, man. *00:07* That's, you know, it just it can't be replaced. *00:07* Yeah. *00:07* And uh *00:07* Or no ours I'm sorry, one hundred and forty-four year old, not one hundred and eighty. *00:07* I found it on *00:07* Like maybe I'll just *00:07* They were like the the two uh podcasts I listened to the most, and and RetroNots. *00:07* Let's let's m let's move. *00:07* You just kinda *00:07* And that was I had never really like *00:07* So just to keep cloud saving, which I find valuable, I can't I don't think you can even pull saves off PS *00:07* I yeah, I'm I'm not I'm not planning on anything too uh *00:07* So you've got to have a blog, you've got to have a YouTube channel. *00:07* And then you're you're you face the question, why even try? *00:07* Sometimes I you know *00:07* And what I really connected with on the backloggery was buying *00:07* It was like six hundred dollars or something like that. *00:07* And I *00:07* Because I didn't I could only record like when I got home from work, which was, you know, like after dinner and stuff was like nine o'clock, nine, ten at night. *00:07* It's just it's surreal that it ended up becoming *00:07* So it was like a full Pokemon game spree. *00:07* Cause I mean we are both working from home, but I mean my my wife does graphic design, like she works in advertising and *00:07* Yeah. *00:07* So this house is much newer. *00:07* Yeah, where you're just like getting dropped in the conversation and uh *00:07* Uh as for myself, you can find my writing over at maxfrequency. *00:07* You know the struggle. *00:07* Then PS2 came out or uh Metal Gear Solid 3 came out. *00:07* Yeah. *00:07* Like they were doing like it was, I think that it was like Monday night and Wednesday night. *00:07* Yeah, like laugh about this now. *00:07* It's uh it's really cool to hear that journey. *00:07* It is *00:07* But like I I feel like none I'm like the other side where it's like *00:07* It's it's cool. *00:07* And that was very demoralizing to a degree. *00:07* You *00:07* Like for Facebook, like I have I have a Facebook, but I just I keep it to the people like I *00:07* It's been it was fun. *00:07* And uh it's just I I look back on it now and like doing those *00:07* Uh in gosh, that must have been like Magfest. *00:07* It's like we're definitely gonna need like a bigger place. *00:07* And then like when I so I we rented a house when we first moved here because we didn't have a place to live, so we just like rented a house. *00:07* It's too big. *00:07* I found the cloud saving stuff instrumental. *00:07* Like I'm gonna mount that in the in the basement. *00:07* And with me, I'm just like *00:07* That was *00:07* Super exactly can you make a portable mister, you know. *00:07* Well, there's like a the latest edition is an is an extra on cross point. *00:07* And you know, he recorded it with them and he says, you know, just *00:07* Uh but there's just like a bunch of people pushing up roses and just like a bunch of like different people. *00:07* And I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna re I'm just gonna uh *00:07* And that *00:07* Um there's a lot of consoles I don't think I would would have kept necessarily if I could have *00:07* I had them pre-ordered from like *00:07* Yeah. *00:07* And it I put it in the other day because he just gave me his NES. *00:07* And I, you know, I justify it in like, you know, I have *00:07* I forget what games it was coming out between, but I was like, I need something quick. *00:07* It was just like storage and stuff. *00:07* You know, like I'm gonna I'm gonna get 'em because they're *00:07* I got it both to the *00:07* Like before we were *00:07* Uh-huh. *00:07* And it's like *00:07* That's stupid. *00:07* Like maybe I should like buy this upscaler called the Frame Meister because like look like we saw these pictures of it and like *00:07* Yeah, I guess. *00:07* Like I don't like I just don't even begin to understand like how *00:07* Like I just don't I don't know if it's just *00:07* I mean I was behind it the whole time so it wasn't as *00:07* And just you know, just stuff that I would never even like been I would have been way too scared to do in the first place. *00:07* I mean she was a year, a little bit over a year. *00:07* It shows up *00:07* Before we talk about that, I kind of wanted to retread a little bit of what I talked about with Try. *00:07* tv at the time. *00:07* Things that I had like a real emotional attachment to. *00:07* It's like, you know, I would pay twenty dollars a year to just like have cloud saves and and that's it *00:07* Like I know that Corey takes on freelance work. *00:07* Hmm. *00:07* I'm I'm connected to so many more monitors or capture solutions or you know I'm *00:07* Or like a feature of something. *00:07* And that's that's always like it's always surreal to hear, I guess. *00:07* It was probably just a stock photo, even that they just found somebody else's photo, you know? *00:07* It was like a post-production training facility. *00:07* You *00:07* Um *00:07* So that that goes a lot a long way for it. *00:07* So it's like, oh, I'm actually only getting like four hours of sleep. *00:07* I even had an homage to in one in I think RGB 102 *00:07* I mean, like that it still continues to blow my mind. *00:07* You know, where it's just I I'm okay just, you know, letting something be what it is. *00:07* Generally about one topic that *00:07* And if not, then they don't. *00:07* So we would record these games. *00:07* It's just kind of like we're we're really big on like playing it straight. *00:07* Right. *00:07* Right. *00:07* Okay. *00:07* It's like other people we want to talk to somebody *00:07* Like I'll like and I'll also like reach out to like people like, oh, you know, we want to do a video on this. *00:07* Mm-hmm. *00:08* Um I really want my N64 stuff is kinda like the big gap I have. *00:08* I pretty much have been only playing that stuff. *00:08* Oh my gosh, dude. *00:08* You know. *00:08* So that didn't go anywhere. *00:08* But we've been we've been very, very lucky in that we have not gotten a lot of that s kind of stuff. *00:08* You guys do those Sunday night streams. *00:08* But I'm since we just released a new video today. *00:08* For a while. *00:08* Yep. *00:08* You know, here's just like what you need to get this. *00:08* Yeah. *00:08* So *00:08* You'll make time for it. *00:08* It's not just like, oh, you're playing games. *00:08* And I mean your setup is *00:08* Yes. *00:08* And you know what? *00:08* But also like music and stuff that we're we're both into. *00:08* Um *00:08* So it's like right on the other side. *00:08* I'm like, it's the only way that I can currently afford to play the old games. *00:08* It it hasn't even felt like the right time, I would think, for a tour until *00:08* And I that's you know, I was like editing trailer videos and stuff. *00:08* That's it, because that's what I had access to. *00:08* Yeah, but you know, I was I was ready to like by the time we left New York, I was ready to leave New York. *00:08* What about this system? *00:08* Or they just *00:08* Because something I've realized like as I get older *00:08* Because it's not is it's not like that childhood copy. *00:08* You know, in this d as we b go toward a digital future with modern hardware, I mean that new Xbox leak. *00:08* Yeah. *00:08* And I I guess I'm recreating that here with this show as well, reaching out to folks like you and um *00:08* And it took the realization that I just need to do it for myself, for fun, and turn it from job *00:08* Like I had a I had a friend recently uh who uh *00:08* You'll get there eventually. *00:08* And that was the game that kind of brought me back to like, oh, I wanna. *00:08* And do you would you want to do like a video on your favorite game? *00:08* And *00:08* Another tactic I've done with myself is I don't open a game. *00:08* I've been doing some charity stream stuff for St. *00:08* Like you're getting paid to do like this other stuff that you, you know, may not *00:08* So I very cool. *00:08* I'm very gracious when anyone says yes to come onto my show. *00:08* Maybe, you know. *00:08* So if people want to get in the video, like they should be looking at like more of the technical aspects of it, not like *00:08* It all builds. *00:08* Yeah, like uh Kytor Industries was like making like a like a splitter box. *00:08* I think he would be the guy to do it. *00:08* 44 just came out today. *00:08* So no cables, nothing. *00:08* So they're like, well if I can't see it, I guess it *00:08* Uh that's cute. *00:08* You know, I remember *00:08* Yeah. *00:08* And the problem is is that every time *00:08* But the differences between behind the pixel and *00:08* Although, you know, I think *00:08* It's like, you know, kind of a cool like *00:08* I go crazy with it. *00:08* I mean she does have the Fisher Price controller. *00:08* You someone who's actually can do the thing. *00:08* Just kind of *00:08* I mean it's such a weird thing because I would like to *00:08* Which was like not even something I w wanted to like *00:08* But the thing is like I moved to New York and I was basically subletting a room *00:08* Yeah. *00:08* Let's move here. *00:08* They don't get disposable income now. *00:08* And I sold that one actually like after I moved to New York. *00:08* And who knows what PS6 and Xbox *00:08* So how do like *00:08* And I could like I mounted like a s projector screen. *00:08* Um I say twin *00:08* It is really the people. *00:08* Like there was other there was channels like doing certain things like that. *00:08* And it's just like, I mean it still like blows my mind because it's like *00:08* Hidden hidden behind a profile picture and *00:08* I mean like I handle like the business side of stuff. *00:08* That's only a few days away for you guys. *00:08* I want to say it was like called Ames. *00:08* I'm looking at the video page. *00:08* And then it immediately like got posted on Kotaku and then like from there it *00:08* I'm I've kind of had that realization *00:08* It's cool, but you know, I have no idea. *00:08* And I just needed to like check out and just like focus on career. *00:08* I edited this edited this video on the first Fantasy Star. *00:08* I'm like, I don't want to le I'd never want to leave New York. *00:08* had existed back when I was in New York, like *00:08* Like why like *00:08* And *00:08* Uh so we wanted to move someplace that was uh *00:08* Did you watch that? *00:08* I actually interviewed Danny O'Dwyer kind of earlier in the Noclip days. *00:08* So like if you're just in the chat talking, like people are gonna see it. *00:08* They were like between like ten to fifteen minutes. *00:08* Like how can we like make a video out of the subject that we don't understand? *00:08* You know, th thinking about that *00:08* It's just *00:08* Mm-hmm. *00:08* It's just nuts to see and think. *00:08* Oh my gosh, what a great *00:08* So I'm getting I'm getting enough sleep. *00:08* You know, like I have these like lights up here, like you know, like these like track *00:08* I'm like *00:08* And then figure out how to break that down. *00:08* Like if there's not a lot of people watching, it's like what is keeping your motivation going? *00:08* And they made these tapes. *00:08* And I think that *00:08* And actually I've I'm let's jump into it a little bit here. *00:08* You know? *00:08* That's that that's okay. *00:08* And I think *00:09* Like I'm I'm making a laugh try. *00:09* And that was right after the game came out. *00:09* I uh *00:09* It's just Yes. *00:09* It's pretty clean in there. *00:09* If I wake up early enough. *00:09* Go work at IGM. *00:09* And so *00:09* But until next time, adios. *00:09* Yeah. *00:09* Um *00:09* Like a Genesis or something. *00:09* And getting it out like all this information out in a way that's not this *00:09* And I put it like above *00:09* So we just did it. *00:09* I either give 'em away *00:09* So I could I had so many *00:09* My dad has a silver play button from YouTube. *00:09* Right. *00:09* Yeah. *00:09* I was just using it actually not too long ago on my PS TV to bring some Vita stuff. *00:09* Uh *00:09* Like he like really loves like a lot of the technical aspects of it. *00:09* But *00:09* I got 130 left. *00:09* Or maybe like maybe it might have been November actually of that. *00:09* That kind of that kind of can uh audience. *00:09* Hello, Corey. *00:09* Actually, way too long. *00:09* But I mean you'd look at that and that was *00:09* You know, like we just said we had no experience like being on camera in any capacity. *00:09* And I mean, if I say like if I all this stuff, it just like *00:09* And uh *00:09* Um I was out of games for a couple of years. *00:09* Saving the day. *00:09* I mean that mirrors a lot of like *00:09* Like I *00:09* Okay. *00:09* Okay. *00:09* I don't like it. *00:09* It it's it's those two things. *00:09* It came with every single Wii. *00:09* And I think that that's something I need to just accept that, you know, we tried to put *00:09* Wow. *00:09* Um *00:09* You know, like on on on websites where it's *00:09* It came out in *00:09* I mean even as time goes on, like the different projects that we've taken on *00:09* But that was about as close as it ever got. *00:09* Could I like come and film an interview with with Rand Miller? *00:09* And *00:09* So you can look forward to that. *00:09* But I confirmed that the cable was with it and it it was all there. *00:09* You're close enough, but you're not technically there. *00:09* It's a Seinfeld, it's a Seinfeld of podcast. *00:09* I think that is a creative angle. *00:10* Which is *00:10* Gotcha. *00:10* Well now you know now they can play it on the PlayStation. *00:10* I'd rather just like go to somebody *00:10* I think I plus posted like three things on it. *00:10* You know, like he's I think he's I'm like six years older than he is *00:10* Like you get you still have the game, but the box was always so cool to me. *00:10* Ah, yeah, I'll do that. *00:10* I could plug things in up there and have it hidden from sight and just *00:10* I love seeing *00:10* I'm like eh, I wish that it was like really easy all the time, but I mean *00:10* It's it's uh it's eight o'clock Eastern, right? *00:10* Uh and that really just *00:10* And basically right before we were *00:10* And it was just presented in a way that was *00:10* It's not the same as like the one that I played, you know. *00:10* And so over the last year, that's been Resident Evil and Pokemon. *00:10* I'm like, *00:10* How are you? *00:10* Or just like, you know, uh *00:10* It was just like really hard to *00:10* It's *00:10* I mean that's really that's really what it comes down to. *00:10* Because, you know, ten people are going to watch this video. *00:10* Like you learn more complicated subjects. *00:10* It's like it is literally *00:10* It's such a d a challenge. *00:10* So it's it it's never been used. *00:10* Uh so when we *00:10* Like LGR was po posting on that. *00:10* Yeah. *00:10* And *00:10* If it if it maintains its value, I guess. *00:10* Yes. *00:10* Oh my gosh. *00:10* And like I got Snatcher like day one. *00:10* It's like, all right, I need to *00:10* Jude. *00:10* video. *00:10* Yeah, you're really recreating the *00:10* Like, because they're like *00:10* It's like, oh man, you can like see me like *00:10* Exactly. *00:10* Okay. *00:10* So it's just like such a stark contrast, right, of how *00:10* And I I I don't feel as strongly towards it. *00:10* They had the whole box set and stuff. *00:10* It's it's like, ah, I love this game. *00:10* But uh *00:10* Mm-hmm. *00:10* I think what is I feel like my house is from the *00:10* Okay. *00:10* I'm like, I'm gonna get an Xbox 360. *00:10* And if I'm gonna put this much work into it *00:10* I *00:10* I think I may have sold it for like eighty dollars. *00:10* No, I mean the only thing we watch is like *00:10* And the thing that *00:10* Have a have one-on-one. *00:10* That's huge. *00:10* It's *00:10* Yeah, I think that *00:10* It's so cool. *00:10* Public facing and business. *00:10* Oh my goodness. *00:10* But before we talk about *00:10* And you guys you met through the site. *00:10* You basically you're just doing it twice *00:10* Right. *00:10* Like that's like the main thing that's uh that's appealing to people, I think. *00:10* And that's what's good about like having two people on a channel is like you kind of get *00:10* 130 left to make public. *00:10* So I mean that's *00:10* I mean there if there's anything *00:10* It's a do the thing and the people you know. *00:10* He will go out of his way to like *00:10* Like, you know, in a upcoming episode we're gonna we're gonna rank *00:10* You know, like you see that kind of thing in the comments. *00:11* Okay. *00:11* So *00:11* And that's what's so *00:11* I mean, this people can find you at My Life and Gaming on YouTube. *00:11* Yeah. *00:11* And I uh *00:11* It's like you gotta do *00:11* Hm. *00:11* So i that like can mask a lot of the uh like maybe *00:11* I think it's *00:11* And it's like, but all you want to do is *00:11* So I'm like, we both have like professional backgrounds *00:11* Right. *00:11* Like it's it's like the best best part of my day. *00:11* But *00:11* I mean you can download *00:11* I stopped playing it. *00:11* But, you know, like *00:11* I think that's really cool. *00:11* And I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna offer to edit video. *00:11* And I was like, they have these videotapes *00:11* And even if you were to *00:11* You know, like I I really, really struggle with writing. *00:11* And that just like that's this kind of thing that comes out of like *00:11* net. *00:11* So I, you know, I I *00:11* And that one uh *00:11* Uh, you know, before it'd be like *00:11* It's like you know, like my *00:11* Exactly. *00:11* Yeah, it's it's *00:11* I'm not going to play this again. *00:11* And um *00:11* And then the uh Well that was the thing that *00:11* Well it's still *00:11* Like, I *00:12* But it it fit in the time in my life and it was *00:12* And that's like I mean that's that's hard work. *00:12* It should not be hard to find *00:12* And I just didn't play any games. *00:12* That's all they're like that's *00:12* I mean we have *00:12* It's it was crazy. *00:12* Mm-hmm. *00:12* Is it just *00:12* So maybe you can get *00:12* Now *00:12* Two different apps. *00:12* It's uh *00:12* The power cable was sealed. *00:12* And that I think that was *00:12* I I mean that's something *00:12* You know, like I *00:12* It's like *00:12* I think we're gonna *00:12* Um *00:12* Mm-hmm. *00:12* But she uh *00:12* That's good. *00:12* Uh I don't know. *00:12* So I bought it for forty bucks. *00:12* I'm like, oh yeah, I can *00:12* Uh *00:12* I just *00:12* Right. *00:12* We'll see. *00:12* Never went back to it. *00:12* And uh *00:13* And so I'm really *00:13* I wanted to get your perspective on that. *00:13* And he was like *00:13* Yeah. *00:13* And I *00:13* Like *00:13* Um *00:13* Yeah. *00:14*