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Max Roberts 00:00 Hello everybody and welcome to the Max Frequency Podcast.
Max Roberts 00:04 I'm your host, Max Roberts, and I have the honor and privilege of being joined once again.
Max Roberts 00:09 It's that time of year, everybody.
Max Roberts 00:11 Logan Moore.
Max Roberts 00:12 How's it going, buddy?
Logan Moore 00:14 It's going okay.
Logan Moore 00:16 It's not too bad.
Logan Moore 00:17 Things are good.
Logan Moore 00:18 Things are going swell here.
Logan Moore 00:20 Um
Logan Moore 00:22 I will say the the hype is more diminished than ever, I feel, for this time of year, unfortunately, for a variety of different reasons.
Logan Moore 00:32 And I feel like we had a similar conversation
Logan Moore 00:35 this time last year, because obviously w we always do this episode together and we have for what, it's not ten years yet.
Max Roberts 00:42 Forever.
Max Roberts 00:43 Sus
Logan Moore 00:43 It's it's getting close to a decade straight of these that we've done, for sure.
Max Roberts 00:48 Absolutely.
Logan Moore 00:48 Um
Max Roberts 00:49 We are here to predict E three, the Keylis, summer video game news spread across four months.
Max Roberts 00:58 Uh
Max Roberts 01:00 We are here once again to predict all the things for the big three.
Max Roberts 01:05 So for Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.
Max Roberts 01:09 Um it's gonna be a good time, everybody, as we are wont to do it every year.
Max Roberts 01:15 Um, but a little annual follow-up first.
Max Roberts 01:20 How did we do last year, Logan?
Max Roberts 01:22 That's the first question.
Max Roberts 01:24 We didn't do we did pretty bad, quite honestly.
Logan Moore 01:28 I was gonna say we you we never do we never do good, but I'm trying to gauge how
Max Roberts 01:29 Um
Max Roberts 01:34 How bad?
Logan Moore 01:34 Well, we did in compared to previous years.
Max Roberts 01:37 So we'll go we'll go quick here.
Max Roberts 01:39 Logan we'll s we started with
Max Roberts 01:41 PlayStation last year, which is interesting.
Max Roberts 01:43 We I do I don't think we normally do that, but uh you said that Sony Santa Monica would reveal two games at once.
Max Roberts 01:53 That technically came true.
Logan Moore 01:55 That did happen, actually, now that I think about it.
Max Roberts 01:56 Uh, it did happen uh, you know, just like in January, not in the summer.
Logan Moore 02:02 It was like seven or eight months early.
Max Roberts 02:02 Uh but they did reveal the the remake trilogy and uh Sons of Sparta, which we have talked about.
Max Roberts 02:09 on chapter select.
Max Roberts 02:10 Um that episode may not be out by the time you hear this because this will go up first.
Max Roberts 02:15 But they did do it, just not in the summer.
Max Roberts 02:17 You said Sly Cooper from another company.
Max Roberts 02:21 Unfortunately.
Max Roberts 02:22 The PS5 Pro was not mentioned verbally.
Max Roberts 02:25 This is true.
Max Roberts 02:27 I don't think that
Logan Moore 02:27 That's crazy
Max Roberts 02:28 I don't think that'll happen this year, uh, with PSSR2 actually being good.
Max Roberts 02:34 Um and GTA 6 theoretically.
Max Roberts 02:37 Uh three new IP will be revealed.
Max Roberts 02:40 They do not have to be first party.
Max Roberts 02:42 that happened.
Max Roberts 02:43 I just don't know what they were.
Max Roberts 02:44 Um and then Resident Evil revealed with Leon as the main protagonist.
Max Roberts 02:49 It while partially true on Leon and I mean like all of that came true, just not uh
Logan Moore 02:55 It was it was game it it was Game Fest where it was revealed, so it wasn't PlayStation and then obviously Leon wasn't confirmed until
Max Roberts 03:01 He well, this would have been anything in the summer.
Max Roberts 03:04 So if it was a summer video game thing, um
Logan Moore 03:06 Okay.
Logan Moore 03:06 So the Leon element of that was just what was wrong.
Max Roberts 03:09 Yeah, probably, yeah.
Max Roberts 03:11 Um I said Horizon's next game would be announced.
Max Roberts 03:15 That was not true.
Max Roberts 03:16 Actually it was just announced a couple of months ago.
Max Roberts 03:19 Uh Fair Games came at uh was gonna bubble up.
Max Roberts 03:22 Ironically, after we recorded it, Jade Raymond left Haven.
Max Roberts 03:26 Um
Max Roberts 03:26 But you know what?
Max Roberts 03:27 Fair games is still in development, baby.
Max Roberts 03:29 And wasn't the recent report that it's pivoting to have some sort of extraction mode?
Max Roberts 03:34 Because extraction shooters are the hotness right now.
Max Roberts 03:37 Um
Logan Moore 03:38 I think the report just said the game was in development hell, obviously.
Logan Moore 03:43 And then I think it also said that like internal testing on it is like very poor.
Max Roberts 03:48 Sure, 'cause yeah.
Logan Moore 03:48 So this because of course
Max Roberts 03:51 Of course.
Max Roberts 03:53 I said a dormant IP is revived.
Max Roberts 03:56 I did not write down what's ended up like confirming it, but I have a checkbox there, so I believe past max.
Max Roberts 04:02 Uh Judas getting a release date, that's so silly.
Max Roberts 04:05 And then Bloodborne coming to PS5.
Max Roberts 04:08 Also pretty silly.
Max Roberts 04:11 We did not do very good.
Max Roberts 04:12 You did better.
Max Roberts 04:13 You had you had two.
Max Roberts 04:14 I had one.
Max Roberts 04:16 for uh the Almighty PlayStation.
Logan Moore 04:18 I don't I don't I don't want to hone in on this because I don't know if we'll end up talking about it.
Logan Moore 04:23 uh with our new predictions, but really hurts me that Judas's release date was not revealed and it still hasn't been revealed at the time we're recording.
Max Roberts 04:32 Well, did you
Logan Moore 04:33 Like who the heck knows what's going on with that thing?
Max Roberts 04:36 Ken Levine's taking his time.
Max Roberts 04:38 I saw he did an interview with IGN, I want to say last week.
Logan Moore 04:40 I saw that too.
Max Roberts 04:42 I've watched maybe 20 minutes of it.
Max Roberts 04:43 I want to watch some more.
Max Roberts 04:45 It's very interesting to hear him talk about it.
Max Roberts 04:47 And they've been doing what's so interesting is clearly there's a marketing deal with PlayStation because they keep putting out very infrequently these little blog updates.
Max Roberts 04:57 And it's like
Max Roberts 04:58 look at like what we're doing in Judas.
Max Roberts 05:01 So it's like things are happening, but also not at the same time.
Max Roberts 05:07 I would
Max Roberts 05:09 I would love for it to be this year, but I d doesn't feel likely.
Logan Moore 05:10 Well it's so weird because like at one point we had like the revealed trailer and then we had like a second trailer and I wanna say those were only like
Logan Moore 05:19 12 to like 14, 15 months apart, or something like that.
Logan Moore 05:23 So like you see the first one and it reveals the game.
Logan Moore 05:26 And it's like, okay, cool.
Logan Moore 05:26 And then you see the second one, it's like, oh, they're gearing up towards launch.
Logan Moore 05:29 They're coming back and
Logan Moore 05:31 Here goes the push towards release, and that was like two or three years ago.
Max Roberts 05:36 Yeah, it just I don't know.
Max Roberts 05:39 It's it's strange.
Max Roberts 05:40 I'm I'm very excited.
Max Roberts 05:42 for Judas, seriously excited for Judas uh whenever that comes out.
Logan Moore 05:45 Just knowing how that game's been constructed, I bet the like bug testing on it is hell.
Max Roberts 05:46 But Probably.
Max Roberts 05:51 Yeah.
Logan Moore 05:52 Like I can't imagine how you QA a game like that, so
Max Roberts 05:52 Sounds horrendous.
Max Roberts 05:56 I don't know.
Max Roberts 05:57 I'm very I I imagine writing a guide for it will also not be uh a fun task.
Max Roberts 06:03 Uh if it says, you know
Logan Moore 06:03 I don't know if I don't know if you could.
Max Roberts 06:05 Well, it depends how multifaceted it actually is versus what they're talking about.
Logan Moore 06:11 There's gotta be a limit at some point, yeah.
Max Roberts 06:11 Like what Right, so uh we shall see
Max Roberts 06:18 Xbox.
Max Roberts 06:20 Uh let's see.
Max Roberts 06:21 Okay, I'm so upset.
Max Roberts 06:23 This may have been my favorite prediction from last year, and I'm upset it didn't come true.
Max Roberts 06:28 Logan, you said that Banjo and Kazooie would be playable DLC characters in Tony Opera Skater 3 and 4.
Logan Moore 06:30 Yeah.
Max Roberts 06:35 Asha, I know you're listening.
Max Roberts 06:39 Do it.
Logan Moore 06:39 Yeah.
Max Roberts 06:40 Do it, Asha.
Max Roberts 06:41 Um, so upset.
Max Roberts 06:43 You said no fable gameplay once again, which was
Max Roberts 06:48 Correct.
Max Roberts 06:48 Absolute insanity.
Max Roberts 06:50 Um you said Elder Scroll VI would be mentioned.
Max Roberts 06:52 It was not.
Max Roberts 06:54 Uh although I think Todd recently in an interview like acknowledged its existence.
Max Roberts 06:59 Xbox reveals a dedicated handheld, not the Asus one.
Max Roberts 07:03 The RG Ally, I think is what that one's called.
Max Roberts 07:06 You have one of those, don't you?
Logan Moore 07:08 Yeah, I do.
Max Roberts 07:09 Yeah.
Max Roberts 07:09 Uh no, that is not true.
Max Roberts 07:11 Xbox I I think even reports late la late last year said Xbox was postponing or internally like kicking the can down the road for the Xbox dedicated handheld.
Logan Moore 07:21 Yeah, I think they're still gonna do it, but like they like put it on pause.
Max Roberts 07:25 Pause, yeah.
Logan Moore 07:25 It sounded it sounded like the focus on the
Logan Moore 07:27 what the helix or whatever this new one's called now.
Logan Moore 07:31 So yeah
Max Roberts 07:32 And then uh another very good prediction.
Max Roberts 07:35 A new Halo game will be announced far too early, which uh true.
Max Roberts 07:40 I checked off that would have been, I guess, the Halo 1 remake.
Logan Moore 07:44 I don't think that was announced there though.
Max Roberts 07:47 I have a check mark, so
Logan Moore 07:50 Sure.
Logan Moore 07:53 I'll take it.
Max Roberts 07:53 Uh the check the check marks are accurate.
Max Roberts 07:56 They're very true.
Max Roberts 07:58 Um I said Gears gets love with
Max Roberts 08:01 reloaded gameplay and then something regarding E-Day.
Max Roberts 08:05 Both of those came true.
Max Roberts 08:07 And this year we get all the E Day stuff, uh, because it is the showcase game afterward and obviously is out later this year.
Max Roberts 08:14 So
Max Roberts 08:14 I said Outer Worlds 2 will get a release date of October 2nd.
Max Roberts 08:18 It did not come out then.
Max Roberts 08:20 I don't know when it came out, but it wasn't October 2nd.
Max Roberts 08:23 I said Contraband and Clockwork Revolution pop back up.
Max Roberts 08:26 That was not.
Max Roberts 08:28 True, I think contraband is dead.
Max Roberts 08:30 Uh right?
Logan Moore 08:30 Contraband got canceled, I think, yeah.
Max Roberts 08:31 Yeah, yeah.
Logan Moore 08:33 Yeah.
Max Roberts 08:33 Um 2025 I said was the year of Kojima with a proper trailer for overdose.
Max Roberts 08:40 I want to say there was a trailer.
Max Roberts 08:42 It just wasn't in the summer.
Logan Moore 08:44 It wasn't at the it wasn't
Max Roberts 08:44 That really.
Max Roberts 08:45 Yeah, it wasn't at the showcase.
Max Roberts 08:47 But it was that really creepy one with the candle, I think.
Logan Moore 08:48 I can't remember when it was.
Max Roberts 08:51 Um
Logan Moore 08:52 Yes.
Max Roberts 08:53 So yeah, that game continues to look horrifying.
Max Roberts 08:56 And then I said uh Doublefind shows up with little Timmy Schaefer talking about a new game, which was true.
Max Roberts 09:04 Very coincidentally very cool.
Max Roberts 09:06 Another Double Fine game just came out.
Max Roberts 09:09 So two games within a year.
Max Roberts 09:10 That's kind of interesting and good to see.
Max Roberts 09:13 I like Double Fine.
Max Roberts 09:15 uh putting out smaller, more interesting games to keep doing what they they're doing.
Max Roberts 09:20 So
Logan Moore 09:21 I started that Lighthouse game of theirs.
Logan Moore 09:23 It was fine.
Logan Moore 09:25 I I started playing it like on my I actually started playing it on my
Logan Moore 09:31 Raj or ROG ally.
Max Roberts 09:33 The Rod the Roger
Logan Moore 09:33 And I felt like it was not yeah, I felt like it was not that type of game because it's so
Logan Moore 09:39 art and visual centric.
Logan Moore 09:41 It felt like I needed to be planted on like a TV at the highest possible fidelity to really get the most out of it.
Max Roberts 09:43 Hey, Boy TV
Logan Moore 09:48 So stopped after that.
Max Roberts 09:49 Yeah.
Max Roberts 09:51 Then Nintendo Logan, you didn't do very well.
Logan Moore 09:56 No, I did not.
Max Roberts 09:56 He said uh he said Super Smash Bros.
Max Roberts 09:59 Ultimate Ultimate would be announced.
Max Roberts 10:01 That did not happen.
Max Roberts 10:02 New 3D Mario, that did not happen.
Max Roberts 10:06 Um so at the time
Max Roberts 10:10 At the time we recorded this, it would we the Switch 2 was coming out like weeks after this episode, but we didn't know about Donkey Khan at the time, or did we
Logan Moore 10:23 Um we did.
Max Roberts 10:24 Was donkey we had to.
Logan Moore 10:25 R Donkey Kong was at the it was at the reveal event for the Switch too.
Max Roberts 10:28 April event.
Max Roberts 10:29 Right.
Logan Moore 10:30 Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
Max Roberts 10:30 The April event.
Max Roberts 10:31 Because because it was out in July.
Max Roberts 10:33 Okay.
Logan Moore 10:34 Yeah, yeah.
Max Roberts 10:34 So we knew about Donkey Kong, but we didn't see uh there's no Mario.
Max Roberts 10:38 Splatoon 4 would be announced, but the A in Splatoon had to be a 4.
Max Roberts 10:43 I still like that.
Max Roberts 10:44 There is a Splatoon game coming out in uh yeah, Raiders in just a month or two.
Logan Moore 10:47 Raiders
Max Roberts 10:50 So cool to see a single player centric Splatoon game, but not four, which will undoubtedly come.
Max Roberts 10:57 So I left one unchecked.
Max Roberts 11:00 I guess I should check it because it didn't happen in the summer.
Max Roberts 11:03 I should mark it off.
Max Roberts 11:04 Star Fox is happening is what you said.
Max Roberts 11:06 It is happening.
Max Roberts 11:07 Legitimately, just Star Fox is happening and they're doing it again for the fourth time.
Logan Moore 11:11 Fourth time.
Logan Moore 11:12 Oh, I guess the zero is one of the remakes.
Max Roberts 11:14 Uh oh no, so it's well, the original I actually don't count zero.
Max Roberts 11:18 If you count zero, it's five.
Max Roberts 11:19 So it's the original, sixty-four
Max Roberts 11:21 3ds and then switch two, so that's my fourth time.
Max Roberts 11:25 If you count zeros reimagining of some of the levels and things, then it would be five.
Max Roberts 11:31 I don't I don't count zero.
Max Roberts 11:33 Um
Max Roberts 11:34 Feels a bit too different.
Max Roberts 11:35 Anyway, they are remaking Star Fox, a little furry Star Fox.
Max Roberts 11:39 That's great.
Max Roberts 11:39 And then um Me too.
Logan Moore 11:40 I'm excited for that.
Logan Moore 11:41 Looking forward to it.
Max Roberts 11:42 I have uh I have a copy pre-ordered.
Max Roberts 11:44 And then uh Mario Baseball.
Max Roberts 11:46 You you said Mario would be back into the sports and be out next year.
Max Roberts 11:50 That did not happen.
Max Roberts 11:52 It was tennis.
Max Roberts 11:53 He went to tennis.
Logan Moore 11:53 Which is so weird.
Logan Moore 11:54 We just had a tennis on the switch.
Max Roberts 11:57 Uh uh well I th
Logan Moore 11:58 It was Mario Tennis.
Logan Moore 11:59 What fever is this one?
Logan Moore 12:01 And Aces was the one before.
Logan Moore 12:03 So I mean I say we just had one and that was still, you know, it was probably six or seven years ago.
Max Roberts 12:08 Fever sounds fever sounds sick.
Max Roberts 12:10 I really would like to uh to get it.
Logan Moore 12:11 Fever s fever looks fun, yeah.
Max Roberts 12:13 Yeah, looks like a good time.
Max Roberts 12:15 And then I said that there would be Kirby Air Riders gameplay.
Max Roberts 12:20 There was.
Max Roberts 12:20 I said they would celebrate the 40th anniversary of Mario.
Max Roberts 12:23 They did and are.
Max Roberts 12:25 I said Metroid Prime would be out October 2nd of 2025.
Max Roberts 12:30 Uh I was off by two months.
Max Roberts 12:33 It came out what December 4th.
Max Roberts 12:35 So yeah, I was off by two months.
Max Roberts 12:37 Um I said Animal Crossing would be teased.
Max Roberts 12:40 That did not happen.
Max Roberts 12:42 And then I said uh summer all of the for
Max Roberts 12:46 Generation rumors of Prime and Zelda ports for Switch uh would be announced.
Max Roberts 12:53 None of that was announced, so
Max Roberts 12:57 So overall I had two, four, five.
Max Roberts 13:01 You had two four.
Max Roberts 13:04 I win by one.
Logan Moore 13:08 You gotta I predicted a lot of right things just at the wrong time.
Max Roberts 13:09 I'm the victor.
Max Roberts 13:10 Uh wrong time.
Max Roberts 13:14 And and we talked about that last time.
Max Roberts 13:16 We predicted some things just years ahead that eventually came true.
Logan Moore 13:19 Yeah.
Max Roberts 13:20 So a broken clock is right, you know, twice a day.
Max Roberts 13:23 Um let's see if we can dial in our predictions a little bit more here for 2026 summer video games.
Max Roberts 13:31 And Logan, as is tradition at this point.
Max Roberts 13:34 I leave it up to you where we start.
Max Roberts 13:36 You've shaken up the formula in years past, so which of the big three would you like to start with?
Logan Moore 13:46 Let's do Xbox.
Logan Moore 13:50 They got a new boss over there.
Logan Moore 13:53 They've announced a new console.
Logan Moore 13:55 They're gonna show off a Gears of War game that we know of.
Logan Moore 14:00 And some other stuff.
Logan Moore 14:02 Let's let's let's go there.
Max Roberts 14:02 Yeah.
Max Roberts 14:03 I thought you would uh do Xbox first or last.
Max Roberts 14:07 Because of Vidylin Shakeups and new leadership.
Max Roberts 14:09 So I'm I am excited to talk Xbox Logan
Max Roberts 14:14 What is your well, okay, so for the listener, the unacquainted, we do five predictions each and we uh try not to overlap, so hopefully we don't have any overlap here.
Max Roberts 14:23 If not, we'll be making stuff up on the fly.
Max Roberts 14:25 But Logan, what do you got first for me?
Logan Moore 14:30 Um I feel like this one is kind of cheating because we've already seen it a little bit, but you know, I'm gonna formally predict it here.
Logan Moore 14:40 Uh Asha or Asha, I'm gonna figure out how to pronounce her name.
Logan Moore 14:45 I guess I've not heard anybody say I think it's Asha.
Max Roberts 14:47 I think so too.
Logan Moore 14:48 Uh Asha Sharma, the new Xbox boss.
Logan Moore 14:52 will continue Phil Spencer's legacy and will appear in the broadcast wearing a bomber jacket with a uh t-shirt of an Xbox franchise on it.
Max Roberts 15:04 Mmm.
Logan Moore 15:06 Phil might be gone, but his fashion legacy will live onward through her.
Max Roberts 15:07 Okay.
Max Roberts 15:12 Okay.
Max Roberts 15:14 That is a good one.
Max Roberts 15:16 I like it.
Max Roberts 15:18 Uh
Max Roberts 15:18 I guess when you s say that we've seen it, it would be from the photos of like the all hands that they've shared in the blog post where she's wearing a bomber jacket and like an Xbox t-shirt.
Logan Moore 15:24 Yeah.
Max Roberts 15:29 Um we're gonna talk about Osh
Logan Moore 15:30 But it has to be a f it has to be a franchise.
Logan Moore 15:33 Has to be uh like an obscure franchise, so she's gotta be rocking a a banjo tee or uh
Max Roberts 15:33 Right
Logan Moore 15:39 I don't know.
Logan Moore 15:39 I guess she could wear anything from anything Xbox owns at this point, a StarCraft shirt or something random.
Max Roberts 15:45 Yeah, that's obscure.
Logan Moore 15:46 I don't know.
Logan Moore 15:46 They own so many things.
Max Roberts 15:47 Yeah, they own uh c Candy Crush.
Max Roberts 15:50 Candy Crush merch.
Logan Moore 15:50 Sure, she could wear a candy crush shirt.
Logan Moore 15:53 Yeah, go for it, Asha.
Logan Moore 15:55 Do what you want, girl.
Max Roberts 15:55 Okay.
Max Roberts 15:56 So I'll do mine here, which is also an Asha
Max Roberts 16:01 prediction.
Max Roberts 16:02 Um Asha and Matt Booty, who you and I both have said previously it should have been fired a long time ago.
Logan Moore 16:11 Horrible.
Max Roberts 16:11 But uh
Logan Moore 16:12 I don't understand how he's around still.
Max Roberts 16:12 Yeah, but he's now he's up there now.
Max Roberts 16:15 So uh Asha and Booty come out swinging with big talk, big games.
Max Roberts 16:20 Um
Max Roberts 16:21 I think f primarily they're gonna be they're gonna show a a major update to the Xbox series
Max Roberts 16:29 consoles, the X and the S, um focusing on backward compatibility in some way.
Max Roberts 16:35 They had the back compati initiative a few years ago that they announced.
Max Roberts 16:39 Ashish seems very bullish on rapid updates to the current hardware and kind of bringing up its feature parity and support.
Max Roberts 16:49 And so I think there's gonna be like a section where she's like, this is
Max Roberts 16:54 Our vision for the Xbox right now, we're gonna squeeze more out of the hardware that you already own, and we want to lean into that.
Max Roberts 17:03 So here's how we're getting better performance.
Max Roberts 17:06 uh for our back and pat games and future titles going forward.
Max Roberts 17:09 Um so I think that that's what they're gonna do uh is come out talking.
Max Roberts 17:15 Big swing, big talk.
Logan Moore 17:17 That would have to guarantee that what, Helix would ship with a disk drive if they're gonna do that, and that we're not gonna have an all digital future.
Max Roberts 17:29 So, I mean, I think
Logan Moore 17:29 Which I'm not saying this is part of your prediction, but if they're gonna lean back into that, then you have to make it to where you can throw in your old discs.
Max Roberts 17:40 So I think in general though, if you want if any company wants to have
Max Roberts 17:46 backward compatibility in gener is just a part of their platform.
Max Roberts 17:50 They have to either make it an option, like an accessible thing.
Max Roberts 17:55 where it's either a disk drive built in or an attachment that you buy, like with the PlayStation 5 digital and pro.
Max Roberts 18:02 Or you make it like your subscription service like Nintendo does in a way.
Max Roberts 18:07 Granted the Switch 2 is back and pat with the Switch.
Max Roberts 18:09 But if you want to play older stuff, there's NSO.
Max Roberts 18:13 So Xbox and Sony both kind of have this problem for PS6 and Project Helix where it's do we let
Max Roberts 18:22 our players play their old games, not just digitally, but their physical collections?
Max Roberts 18:26 And if the answer's no, they have to just make it all digital and
Max Roberts 18:30 uh break the bad news to people or offer some sort of attachment that they can charge another hundred bucks for.
Max Roberts 18:36 Um, which is what I think is going to happen.
Max Roberts 18:39 I think to cut costs, they'll keep the drive out, but if you want it, you can buy it.
Max Roberts 18:44 Um, I think that's what it would look like.
Logan Moore 18:47 Fingers crossed
Max Roberts 18:48 Yeah, I just eventually it will happen.
Max Roberts 18:52 Right.
Max Roberts 18:52 I mean PC gaming is all digital.
Max Roberts 18:56 It will happen and eventually the companies will have to bite the bullet and just say, your games don't work.
Max Roberts 19:01 Honestly, Nintendo's done it the most when you think about it from
Max Roberts 19:06 NES, Super Nintendo, N64, none of them work together.
Max Roberts 19:10 To GameCube, again, none of them.
Max Roberts 19:12 GameCube to Wii worked.
Max Roberts 19:15 Wii to Wii U worked.
Max Roberts 19:17 And then we broke it with Switch.
Max Roberts 19:19 So
Max Roberts 19:20 Nintendo's good about it and they keep re-releasing their games anyway, so that's how it all kind of pans out.
Max Roberts 19:25 We'll see what happens with Xbox here.
Max Roberts 19:28 But before we go to your number two, I want to ask you, because we actually haven't talked about it.
Max Roberts 19:34 Asha put out a poll.
Max Roberts 19:36 Recently, she'd been doing a lot of this, which I think's great.
Max Roberts 19:39 And she asked if it is Xbox, spelled just in regular
Max Roberts 19:44 capitalization with a capital X and then a regul you know, lowercase BOX or if it's all caps X box.
Max Roberts 19:51 Um I wanna know, A, where you stand on that, and then what you think of the rebranding as a result of the poll.
Logan Moore 19:59 I hate when companies do this stuff because I mean I specifically hate it because of my line of
Logan Moore 20:05 work that I'm in and every now and then we'll get emails from PR companies that'll be like, hey, thanks for covering our product.
Logan Moore 20:13 But actually it's stylized this way.
Logan Moore 20:15 Can you change it?
Logan Moore 20:16 And the answer is usually like
Logan Moore 20:18 No, I'm not going to do that.
Logan Moore 20:19 So like just because Xbox has reformatted their name to now be all caps does not mean I will be abiding by it personally.
Logan Moore 20:30 Um
Logan Moore 20:32 And aesthetically, I feel like they've still been stamping all of their products in that way.
Logan Moore 20:36 You know, like I've never seen a lowercase B on any Xbox controllers or consoles or anything like that.
Logan Moore 20:43 So I guess it's just like a
Logan Moore 20:46 front facing thing on socials and stuff like that.
Max Roberts 20:50 I think it's just kinda to drum up a little bit of conversation.
Logan Moore 20:50 I don't know
Max Roberts 20:54 The journalist major in me is like it's just regular Xbox.
Max Roberts 20:58 It's not all caps.
Max Roberts 20:59 I do I do camo case PlayStation, but that's because that's how it's been stylized from day one, right?
Logan Moore 21:00 Yeah.
Logan Moore 21:06 And I don't think that's a huge deal either.
Max Roberts 21:07 It's just
Max Roberts 21:09 No, that uh like the uh MacBook thing, you know, or at one time all those iPod, just certain companies have that, but Xbox
Logan Moore 21:09 Like it yeah.
Logan Moore 21:13 Mm-hmm.
Max Roberts 21:19 has always just been normal spelling.
Max Roberts 21:22 Like no one has ever styled I have never read it stylized in all capsule once in my life.
Max Roberts 21:28 Um so I'm a little I'm a little miffed about that.
Logan Moore 21:31 I mean like I said, it's it it appears that way on, you know, the dashboards and the startup screens and all that stuff.
Max Roberts 21:32 But
Max Roberts 21:37 The the game spines, yeah.
Logan Moore 21:37 Like all of their logo
Logan Moore 21:39 Yeah, all of that stuff it's always capitalized, which is fine.
Logan Moore 21:42 And they've never deviated from that.
Logan Moore 21:45 Like I said, I've I have a Xbox One or Series X game sitting right next to me and it's on the spine, it's all caps.
Logan Moore 21:52 So like
Logan Moore 21:54 In some sense that's always how it's been, but like I don't know.
Logan Moore 21:57 I will say I don't like they've opened up this like official like community vote thing or whatever where fans can now voice what they want to see Xbox do.
Logan Moore 22:08 That's fine.
Logan Moore 22:09 I'm fine with a forum like that for people to voice what they want.
Logan Moore 22:12 I don't like that this change was spurned or
Logan Moore 22:16 was like solely made because she just threw up a poll on Twitter and that had ramifications on the Xbox brand as a whole.
Logan Moore 22:24 Like that's a little weird what you're gonna go off of the
Max Roberts 22:26 Honestly, pr
Logan Moore 22:27 votes of a couple thousand people or whatever, like, okay.
Max Roberts 22:31 I think probably decided beforehand and is a marketing ploy more than anything.
Max Roberts 22:36 It's just a way to generate free clicks about Xbox and get people more talking about it.
Logan Moore 22:39 Yeah.
Max Roberts 22:43 It's also harmless, like in the grand scheme of things.
Logan Moore 22:46 Yeah, doesn't matter.
Max Roberts 22:46 So she's not like, hey, should we make Elder Scrolls 6 or uh
Max Roberts 22:53 Should we make a Fallout Fire?
Logan Moore 22:53 Fallout five.
Logan Moore 22:54 Choose now.
Max Roberts 22:56 Yeah, choose a fight.
Max Roberts 22:58 You know, it's nothing crazy, so it's just a harmless capitalization.
Logan Moore 23:02 That would actually be fun though.
Max Roberts 23:02 All right.
Logan Moore 23:04 If companies did do that.
Max Roberts 23:04 Yeah.
Logan Moore 23:05 Hey everybody, here's our two paths moving forward.
Logan Moore 23:08 We're gonna give you two weeks to vote.
Logan Moore 23:11 Go nuts.
Logan Moore 23:12 Um
Max Roberts 23:13 Oh gosh, that would be terrible, the chaos
Logan Moore 23:17 All right, let me see.
Logan Moore 23:18 One, two, three.
Max Roberts 23:19 All right, buddy, what is your number two?
Logan Moore 23:19 Okay.
Logan Moore 23:20 Um
Logan Moore 23:23 I've got one I'm trying to s I think I'm gonna save for the end because it's my craziest one.
Logan Moore 23:30 Um which also means it'll be probably the one that's most wrong.
Logan Moore 23:34 Um
Logan Moore 23:35 I'm going to say there are no games that will appear in this presentation, first or third party otherwise
Logan Moore 23:43 that will have a release date or even window or whatever in November or December.
Logan Moore 23:51 The great avoiding of GTA 6 will be on full display.
Logan Moore 23:59 None of these games are gonna get dates or windows in those two months.
Logan Moore 24:04 Everybody is steering clear.
Max Roberts 24:08 Um Yeah, I could see it.
Max Roberts 24:11 I'm just trying to think
Logan Moore 24:13 Call of Duty's gonna go early.
Logan Moore 24:15 Call of Duty will be October, I think, this year.
Logan Moore 24:18 Um Gears, I've heard, is like September or so.
Logan Moore 24:22 Um Fable, I think, would make sense for
Max Roberts 24:23 What about Fable?
Logan Moore 24:25 Fable's the one.
Logan Moore 24:27 Fable I could see being like a December type thing, but also I don't know.
Logan Moore 24:36 I feel like if you release an open world game after GTA 6, like you're gonna be hurtin'.
Logan Moore 24:45 Like that's gonna not do Fable any favors.
Max Roberts 24:46 So the difference for the difference for Xbox, at least right now, is
Max Roberts 24:53 It is on Game Pass.
Max Roberts 24:55 It will be.
Max Roberts 24:55 Like it's just a value add there.
Max Roberts 24:59 But they do want to sell Fable, right?
Logan Moore 25:01 I was gonna say this is a huge this is a huge reboot for them of an old school franchise that has a lot of prestige and legacy.
Max Roberts 25:02 And is Fable
Max Roberts 25:05 Mm-hmm.
Max Roberts 25:08 And it's coming to PlayStation, right?
Max Roberts 25:11 Like they've announced that already.
Logan Moore 25:12 I I think so.
Logan Moore 25:13 I want to say that they did.
Max Roberts 25:14 But not day and date, probably.
Logan Moore 25:15 I can't remember.
Logan Moore 25:17 Probably not, no.
Logan Moore 25:19 Yeah, they did announce it.
Max Roberts 25:20 Uh
Logan Moore 25:21 I'm remembering this now.
Logan Moore 25:22 But I don't think it's the same date
Max Roberts 25:24 It definitely, yeah, so I see it listed on PlayStation's website.
Max Roberts 25:28 That's crazy.
Max Roberts 25:30 Um
Max Roberts 25:31 It's just weird to see that sometimes.
Max Roberts 25:33 I do like all the reports that are like Sony and Xbox are like, maybe we should keep exclusives.
Max Roberts 25:38 And Nintendo's over here on their pile of IP exclusive exclusive IP like, yes, you should.
Logan Moore 25:44 You will buy Star Fox for a fifth time and you'll like it.
Max Roberts 25:49 It will.
Max Roberts 25:50 Um, the Wikipedia says it's coming to PlayStation and Xbox all at
Max Roberts 25:58 the same time.
Max Roberts 25:58 But you know, that's just a Wikipedia page.
Max Roberts 26:00 So we'll see.
Max Roberts 26:02 I agree.
Max Roberts 26:04 I just I feel like unless they're delaying Fable into 27, which I don't
Max Roberts 26:10 Let's just be nuts for that game.
Max Roberts 26:12 Um where do you think Gears goes?
Max Roberts 26:16 You think that's like in August, September?
Logan Moore 26:16 I think September.
Logan Moore 26:17 I think that's going like toe to toe with Wolverine.
Logan Moore 26:21 I think it's gonna be those two clashing.
Max Roberts 26:21 Mmm, that would be a good man, that'd be a good month.
Max Roberts 26:25 That'd be a good month.
Logan Moore 26:26 Gears is also always like historically shipped like early fall, if I'm correct, more often than not.
Max Roberts 26:26 Okay.
Logan Moore 26:33 Not saying it's like always in that range, but like September has been a very consistent month for that series to release new games.
Logan Moore 26:40 So I think that makes a lot of sense for Gears.
Logan Moore 26:43 Gets it out before Call of Duty gets it out before
Logan Moore 26:46 Grand Theft Auto.
Logan Moore 26:47 I imagine this full-blown direct they're gonna do for it will be very very extensive and the game will seem like it's pretty much done after that.
Max Roberts 26:54 Yeah.
Logan Moore 26:57 So
Max Roberts 26:59 Okay.
Max Roberts 27:01 All right, I will uh
Max Roberts 27:04 I'll do my second Asha prediction.
Max Roberts 27:07 This is it.
Max Roberts 27:08 Two Asha ones.
Max Roberts 27:09 I'll just pair them up.
Max Roberts 27:11 Asha breaks the glass.
Max Roberts 27:15 And gives us a banjo game.
Max Roberts 27:17 She just says sh she just says it.
Logan Moore 27:18 Oh no
Max Roberts 27:19 And I found out going through all the previous predictions, uh this is a bi-annual prediction for me.
Max Roberts 27:25 It's b every other year I go, now is the time for banjo.
Max Roberts 27:29 So I've I gotta, I guess, keep the tradition up.
Max Roberts 27:33 But it'd be fun, but I actually think Asha and Matt, like the everyone at Xbox, I think the days of announce
Max Roberts 27:42 announcing stuff with just a logo years in advance are behind them, but I also do want to know what teams are working on.
Max Roberts 27:51 So it'd be nice.
Max Roberts 27:53 I just don't know who like they're not gonna make rare make it, you know, that'd be insanity.
Max Roberts 27:58 Um
Max Roberts 28:00 I don't know.
Max Roberts 28:01 I think I think Banjo gets some love this year though.
Max Roberts 28:03 You know, someone's got a predictor.
Logan Moore 28:03 Well what's rare doing though?
Logan Moore 28:05 Like rare could.
Max Roberts 28:06 Sea of Thieves
Logan Moore 28:06 I agree they're I agree they're not going to, but they're
Logan Moore 28:10 Like whatever wild?
Max Roberts 28:10 They just canceled Everwild and fired a bunch of people, and the dude I I forget his name, who's been there from the beginning, he just left.
Logan Moore 28:12 Yeah.
Logan Moore 28:13 I got scrapped.
Logan Moore 28:20 Yeah, was it
Max Roberts 28:21 So rare like rare is not what rare used to and it hasn't been for a long time, which is totally fine.
Max Roberts 28:27 It'd be nice if you could slap the rare logo on it.
Max Roberts 28:31 Would be actually it'd actually be really sick if the 360 HD remake of Goldeneye could finally see the light of day, but that game obviously is stuck in a legal
Logan Moore 28:42 It did.
Max Roberts 28:44 No, that was that's different than the the Xbox Live arcade one that was made for 360 but never came out officially.
Logan Moore 28:46 Oh, you mean the the the three sixty one you said?
Logan Moore 28:51 Yeah.
Max Roberts 28:56 I'm still I'm still upset that you you if you own rare replay physically, you cannot play Goldeneye.
Max Roberts 29:02 You have to own it digitally.
Logan Moore 29:05 That doesn't make any sense.
Max Roberts 29:07 It is so dumb and I it feels so opposite to their whole messaging, right?
Max Roberts 29:15 Like of cross by and
Max Roberts 29:17 You know, buy it once, play it anywhere.
Max Roberts 29:19 Like I own rare replay.
Max Roberts 29:21 I have the disc.
Max Roberts 29:21 Why can I not download or patch in GoldenEye?
Logan Moore 29:23 Well there's just like there's weird stuff like this between both Xbox and PlayStation all the time.
Logan Moore 29:28 Like I saw today that
Logan Moore 29:30 Like the the Darksiders remaster th they upgraded the PS4 and Xbox One version.
Logan Moore 29:37 They upgraded it again.
Logan Moore 29:39 for PS5 and Xbox series.
Logan Moore 29:41 And on Xbox it's a free upgrade.
Logan Moore 29:43 And on PlayStation it costs $10.
Logan Moore 29:45 And it's like, huh?
Logan Moore 29:47 What are we doing?
Max Roberts 29:47 What?
Logan Moore 29:48 Why is this a thing?
Max Roberts 29:48 Jeez.
Max Roberts 29:50 I don't know
Logan Moore 29:50 Like c clearly d the devs are fine with it being free on Xbox, so like is this a PlayStation choice?
Logan Moore 29:55 But then why?
Logan Moore 29:57 Like I it just there's weird stuff like this all the time.
Logan Moore 30:00 I I d I don't understand
Max Roberts 30:02 Yeah.
Max Roberts 30:02 And I know Goldeneye specifically has a lot of legal lawyers fingers in the pie between Nintendo, Amazon, Xbox.
Logan Moore 30:10 Yeah.
Max Roberts 30:13 It's a mess.
Max Roberts 30:15 Uh anyway, I think banjo was announced is the whole point of that particular prediction.
Max Roberts 30:20 Uh Logan, what is your number three?
Logan Moore 30:25 I am going to go with this one.
Logan Moore 30:30 Um
Logan Moore 30:32 I don't think there's going to be any new first party reveals in this.
Logan Moore 30:37 And I'll specify from like Xbox Game Studios, obviously.
Logan Moore 30:41 Like if
Logan Moore 30:42 New Call of Duty gets revealed or something like that.
Logan Moore 30:45 Like Activision Blizzard doesn't count.
Logan Moore 30:48 And I guess Bethesda doesn't count.
Logan Moore 30:50 But like Xbox Game Studios proper.
Max Roberts 30:51 Socor Xbox Studios
Logan Moore 30:52 I don't think there's
Logan Moore 30:53 Core Xbox Studios, yeah.
Logan Moore 30:55 I don't think there's gonna be anything new.
Logan Moore 30:57 Um I really think they're gonna tunnel in on the rest of this generation, you know, Fable Gears.
Logan Moore 31:05 Clockwork Revolution or whatever, um like these last remaining
Max Roberts 31:09 Oh
Logan Moore 31:13 games that they need to get out the door in this generation before they turn over to the next one because obviously they're starting their next gen hype cycle already by revealing the helix or the name of it and all that stuff.
Logan Moore 31:27 Um so I really think they're going to try their their best uh to get this all shown off finally, out the door.
Logan Moore 31:36 Maybe like a state of decay three will re-emerge or something like that too, you know.
Logan Moore 31:40 Like these things that have been announced within the past five years, I think that that's pr like the only thing they're gonna show.
Max Roberts 31:40 Yeah.
Logan Moore 31:47 I am not expecting
Logan Moore 31:49 many surprises this time around.
Logan Moore 31:51 But then maybe they want to generate a lot of excitement and do the opposite of what you're saying, which is like announce things so far in advance that
Max Roberts 31:56 Thank you
Logan Moore 32:02 Like it's basically just a logo, but then that's blown up in their face with Perfect Dark and I don't know.
Max Roberts 32:07 Perfect Dark was a mess.
Max Roberts 32:09 It'd be you know what would be really crazy and would be a sick power move from Asha is because apparently that game was
Max Roberts 32:17 Very close to done based off reports.
Logan Moore 32:19 Perfect art
Max Roberts 32:20 Yeah.
Max Roberts 32:21 If she's just like, bring it out, ship it.
Max Roberts 32:24 Like just polish it up and finish it.
Max Roberts 32:26 Like get that'd be that'd be kind of a sick power move, but I don't think it'll happen.
Max Roberts 32:29 They already wrote it off.
Logan Moore 32:30 I was gonna say the initiative shut down, didn't it?
Max Roberts 32:31 So Yeah, but they were oh boy it was with um not idos, crystal, cry crystal dynamics.
Logan Moore 32:37 It was with uh quana uh crystal dynamics.
Logan Moore 32:40 I almost said quanti dream.
Logan Moore 32:42 What am I saying?
Max Roberts 32:42 Yeah, where's where's that game?
Logan Moore 32:43 Crystal dynamics
Max Roberts 32:45 Um so I looked up Xbox Studios uh Wikipedia so I could just kind of see all the names here.
Max Roberts 32:52 I think there's one studio in particular that might get ya.
Max Roberts 32:57 But really quick, there's the coalition.
Max Roberts 32:59 We know they're doing E Day, so that and that's obviously there.
Max Roberts 33:02 Compulsion just put out South at Midnight.
Max Roberts 33:04 I doubt they have anything new.
Max Roberts 33:05 Double fine as we talked about, just put out two new games within the last year.
Max Roberts 33:09 Halo Studios working on combat evolved.
Max Roberts 33:12 Um
Max Roberts 33:14 rumors swirling around about a two and three remake, which isn't very surprising.
Max Roberts 33:20 And there's also reports of like a, you know, there was uh talks of an extraction shooter.
Logan Moore 33:25 Halo Next.
Max Roberts 33:26 Yeah.
Max Roberts 33:27 Hey so
Logan Moore 33:27 There's a job listing for a thing called Halo Next right now.
Max Roberts 33:31 Yeah.
Logan Moore 33:32 So they're making the next Halo game, but
Max Roberts 33:32 But I doubt like all the attention from Halo Studios will be on
Max Roberts 33:36 combat evolved, so I see that.
Max Roberts 33:39 Clockwork Revolution in an exile.
Max Roberts 33:41 Mo Yang is Minecraft, whatever.
Max Roberts 33:43 I mean they could do a new Minecraft IP game.
Logan Moore 33:46 They have one coming up though.
Logan Moore 33:48 They have like Minecraft Dungeons 2 they just announced a few weeks or months ago, so
Max Roberts 33:48 Oh, they do?
Max Roberts 33:51 Okay.
Max Roberts 33:54 Ninja Theory, which just I think put out uh Hellblade 2 on PS5 Pro I don't know, something Obsidian Entertainment, which just put out quite a few games
Logan Moore 34:03 Two games last year, yeah
Max Roberts 34:05 Yeah, Playground Games putting out two games this year.
Max Roberts 34:09 Uh Rare, which is Sea of Thieves, Turn 10, which was just turned into a support studio for Playground, which is like what a twist of fate that is.
Max Roberts 34:19 Undead Labs for State of Decay.
Max Roberts 34:22 And then this is the one I think is gonna get you, buddy.
Max Roberts 34:25 World's Edge, responsible for the Age of Empires series.
Logan Moore 34:29 Maybe, yeah.
Max Roberts 34:29 They put out they put out one of those like a year.
Max Roberts 34:32 They're gonna be like, here's the new Age of Empire game.
Logan Moore 34:34 Yeah, they could do something.
Logan Moore 34:36 They've been milking the age of mythology there for a hot minute, so they can do something new.
Max Roberts 34:37 Um
Max Roberts 34:39 Mm.
Max Roberts 34:40 And then there's the publishing wing.
Max Roberts 34:42 So Yeah, I think you're right.
Max Roberts 34:44 I don't think there's gonna be
Max Roberts 34:47 from these teams anything new new announced
Logan Moore 34:52 I mean, I mentioned it earlier, but like there's supposedly like a
Logan Moore 34:57 StarCraft third or first person shooter in development right now.
Logan Moore 35:01 So like that's probably gonna get revealed this year.
Logan Moore 35:03 That could be a surprising announcement that they do here, or they could save it for
Logan Moore 35:08 BlizzCon or something like that.
Logan Moore 35:10 Obviously we've got a new Call of Duty coming up.
Logan Moore 35:12 Like there's stuff within, you know, Activision and I guess Bethesda too that they could show off.
Logan Moore 35:18 Um but
Max Roberts 35:19 Another another power move.
Max Roberts 35:21 She could bring back scale bound.
Logan Moore 35:24 I almost mentioned that a second ago when you mentioned reviving perfect dark.
Logan Moore 35:27 I was gonna say, why don't we just dig up scalebound while we're at it?
Max Roberts 35:31 Yeah, go for it all the way.
Max Roberts 35:33 Okay.
Max Roberts 35:34 I like that.
Max Roberts 35:34 That actually that makes sense.
Max Roberts 35:36 It sounds like a negative prediction, but I think
Max Roberts 35:38 You want as many of those teams as possible prepping for Helix launch, and if that is
Logan Moore 35:44 I was gonna say this is this last year of a console generation is always a weird one.
Logan Moore 35:49 And Xbox has already played their hand.
Logan Moore 35:51 This is like
Logan Moore 35:52 This will be their last year of this console generation, like almost assuredly.
Logan Moore 35:56 Like PlayStation, it seems like it will be as well, but there's like still some questions and doubts around that potentially, but like
Max Roberts 36:03 And the fact that it's gonna be a cross-gen gen gen again, you know, like it's so it's not it doesn't feel as substantial, but you definitely want your teams focused on
Logan Moore 36:07 Yeah.
Max Roberts 36:14 the new hardware as much as possible like at least bolstering that lineup as much as possible.
Logan Moore 36:19 Especially since Asha's talk since taking over is like we have to bring Xbox back and it's like that's almost like waving the white flag for
Max Roberts 36:20 So
Logan Moore 36:30 this generation to almost acknowledge publicly that you've lost your Yes.
Max Roberts 36:33 Phil yeah, Phil waved the white flag a while ago.
Max Roberts 36:36 I what was the quote he was like
Max Roberts 36:38 That it was something along the lines and I I know I have it somewhere on the blog, but it's like basically th we can't outsell Nintendo and PlayStation.
Max Roberts 36:46 There's no winning for us.
Max Roberts 36:48 It's like that's not what we look at.
Max Roberts 36:49 I'm like, oh yeah, buddy.
Max Roberts 36:51 I mean they gave up when they did that whole ad campaign, This is an Xbox.
Max Roberts 36:54 That's when they really said it was over.
Logan Moore 36:56 They fired the one lady and now she works at Tyson Chicken or whatever the heck.
Max Roberts 37:01 What is that where Sarah Bond went?
Max Roberts 37:03 She went to Tyson
Logan Moore 37:04 She was on their board.
Logan Moore 37:06 That was like a weird thing.
Logan Moore 37:07 I want to say last year.
Logan Moore 37:08 It was announced all of a sudden that she was gonna continue holding her job at Xbox, but she's also joining the the board of Tyson Chicken.
Logan Moore 37:17 And I was like, what?
Max Roberts 37:17 I mean good for good for her.
Logan Moore 37:19 And it made me think of the Kanye West like, I like some of the Gaga songs.
Logan Moore 37:24 What does she know about cameras?
Logan Moore 37:27 If you know what I'm talking about
Max Roberts 37:29 I do not I do not know that one.
Logan Moore 37:30 That's a good meme, it's a good Kanye meme
Max Roberts 37:31 But I do know my third prediction.
Max Roberts 37:36 So you said earlier that you think E Day is gonna be kind of close to uh Wolverine, right?
Logan Moore 37:43 Wolverine, yeah
Max Roberts 37:44 Yeah.
Max Roberts 37:45 In the interest of combating Wolverine, drawing some Marvel attention, I think the blade game makes an appearance.
Max Roberts 37:57 From Arcane.
Max Roberts 38:00 I think I don't know if we see gameplay that feel that would be cool, but I think we get a more realized trailer for Blade.
Max Roberts 38:10 Arcane kind of pops up.
Max Roberts 38:11 I know the studio behind Oh, what was that game called?
Max Roberts 38:16 Red something.
Logan Moore 38:19 Red Soul
Max Roberts 38:20 Redfall.
Max Roberts 38:21 Yeah, they're gone, but this is the other team, the one that worked on Dishonored or something.
Logan Moore 38:25 Deathloop team
Max Roberts 38:25 So Deathloop, thank you.
Max Roberts 38:28 Yes, that one.
Max Roberts 38:29 I think that game shows up, Blade.
Max Roberts 38:31 Um
Max Roberts 38:32 the m the show or movie or whatever maybe never coming out, but the game can, I believe.
Logan Moore 38:39 I was just thinking about that actually when we were talking about
Logan Moore 38:43 various studios and stuff like that.
Logan Moore 38:44 I remembered that they were doing that.
Logan Moore 38:46 So yeah, I think that's a good one.
Logan Moore 38:47 I think that's one they could show off or at least provide some sort of update about.
Logan Moore 38:51 Because they gotta get people excited about things that are further down the road, but
Logan Moore 38:55 I just think it's gonna be a little bit more tactical how they go about doing it this this year.
Logan Moore 39:02 Uh my fourth um is a third-party prediction.
Logan Moore 39:08 Uh Capcom has gotten a lot of their big stuff out the door, Resident Evil.
Max Roberts 39:08 Okay
Logan Moore 39:16 Uh Requiem, Monster Hunter Wilds was was that this year or was that last year?
Max Roberts 39:23 Wilds was last year, but this year was the stories three, I think.
Logan Moore 39:23 I don't know.
Logan Moore 39:25 Yeah, that was last year.
Logan Moore 39:28 Stories 3 is what I was thinking of.
Logan Moore 39:30 Yeah, sorry.
Logan Moore 39:31 So they released that.
Logan Moore 39:32 Pragmata is obviously released now as well.
Logan Moore 39:35 So the only thing they really have coming up is the new Onimusha.
Logan Moore 39:40 And the new Mega Man.
Logan Moore 39:42 Obviously they'd have some like smaller stuff too, remasters and whatnot.
Max Roberts 39:45 And like DLC and things like that, yeah.
Logan Moore 39:47 Yeah, but like they don't really have anything big
Logan Moore 39:50 down the line other than those things.
Logan Moore 39:53 And usually they're announcing a lot of stuff at once.
Logan Moore 39:55 I think they're going to show up uh with the callback to the Xbox 360 generation kind of.
Logan Moore 40:02 and announce a new Dead Rising game.
Logan Moore 40:06 Um I wrote down Dead Rising 5.
Logan Moore 40:08 I don't know if it will be that.
Logan Moore 40:10 I think it's probably more likely to be a reboot.
Logan Moore 40:12 Um, but they did that remaster a couple years ago.
Logan Moore 40:15 No, some fans were like not thrilled with some of the changes in that, but generally speaking, I think it went over pretty well.
Logan Moore 40:22 Um, I think they were testing the waters there for a new entry.
Logan Moore 40:25 They recently kind of teased in one of their financial reports, they listed it as like a key franchise for the company.
Logan Moore 40:32 So I think they're doing something with it clearly.
Max Roberts 40:35 Yeah.
Logan Moore 40:35 I think it makes sense to partner up with Xbox given the history of Dead Rising on Xbox.
Logan Moore 40:41 The first one was obviously a 360 exclusive for a long time.
Logan Moore 40:44 The third one was an Xbox One exclusive.
Max Roberts 40:47 Wasn't it a launch game for Xbox One?
Logan Moore 40:47 And then the fourth
Logan Moore 40:49 Yeah.
Max Roberts 40:50 Yeah.
Logan Moore 40:50 Yeah, and then Dead Rising Four was also an Xbox exclusive for a little bit as well.
Logan Moore 40:56 So this is a series that has very close ties to Xbox and I think it makes sense for if they're going to reveal a new game for them to do it.
Logan Moore 41:03 Cheer.
Max Roberts 41:05 I like that.
Max Roberts 41:05 That's a good one.
Max Roberts 41:06 I didn't I did not think about that one.
Max Roberts 41:09 Um
Max Roberts 41:11 Coming back.
Max Roberts 41:12 It that feels like it would fit in this space too.
Max Roberts 41:14 And Capcom, you know, kind of everything they touch right now is turning to gold.
Max Roberts 41:19 So, and they have, it feels like Onimusha has kind of some PlayStation ties, promotionally speaking, so it'd be good for Capcom to have some sort of partnership and promotional game with Xbox as well.
Logan Moore 41:19 Uh-huh.
Logan Moore 41:31 I agree.
Logan Moore 41:32 Yeah, it feels like Devil May Cry and Dead Rising are like the two big things they could tap into right now.
Logan Moore 41:37 And I don't think they're gonna do Devil May Cry since Oni Musha is coming up and the crossover between those is a little bit more similar.
Max Roberts 41:42 Yeah.
Max Roberts 41:45 They gotta bring back beautiful Joe is what they gotta do.
Logan Moore 41:45 So
Logan Moore 41:50 I mean they could.
Logan Moore 41:51 That would be that would be fun.
Max Roberts 41:52 That'd be that'd be sick.
Max Roberts 41:54 Um okay.
Max Roberts 41:59 I'll go with this one.
Max Roberts 42:01 Fallout
Max Roberts 42:05 I'll commit all the way.
Max Roberts 42:06 Fallout New V Vegas gets a hm
Max Roberts 42:14 Sequel or remake?
Max Roberts 42:15 What should I go with?
Max Roberts 42:17 I could just be safe and say there's a new Fallout Vegas game.
Logan Moore 42:20 Both together in a single package.
Max Roberts 42:22 Oh my gosh.
Max Roberts 42:23 So they just put out Fallout for something or other, not terribly long ago, right?
Logan Moore 42:29 Yeah, that was like the Xbox Series X or PS5 upgrade for it.
Max Roberts 42:35 I think there's a new Fallout game in the Vegas vein.
Max Roberts 42:43 And
Max Roberts 42:45 I don't know if it's Obsidian doing it, but I the show is doing so well.
Max Roberts 42:50 Uh Bethesda Proper is obviously very busy with Elder Scrolls 6.
Max Roberts 42:56 and making Starfield run on PS5.
Max Roberts 43:00 Uh Fallout needs a game, and I think uh I think they're gonna do something with the the New Vegas IP
Max Roberts 43:08 in that.
Max Roberts 43:09 So there's some Fallout New Vegas love this year.
Logan Moore 43:13 I'd be happy.
Logan Moore 43:14 I'm in the Bethesda zone kind of right now.
Logan Moore 43:17 I've been playing a lot of Oblivion and
Logan Moore 43:19 I'm about to start playing Starfield some more.
Max Roberts 43:20 The remake
Logan Moore 43:22 Yeah, I started it last year and I never I think I spent like fifteen or twenty hours with it and I had really been itching to go back over the past year and I just
Logan Moore 43:31 hadn't.
Logan Moore 43:31 So I've been playing that over the past few weeks a little bit more.
Logan Moore 43:35 Um in between everything else I've been trying to play.
Logan Moore 43:38 So
Logan Moore 43:39 I would like that.
Logan Moore 43:40 I'd be happy.
Logan Moore 43:40 I want some more Fallout.
Logan Moore 43:42 It really is like one of their like we've talked we talk about, you know, everything that Xbox owns now.
Logan Moore 43:49 between Call of Duty, Halo, World of Warcraft, like all of these major franchises.
Logan Moore 43:54 I mean f Fallout is like
Logan Moore 43:56 I'd say pretty easily within the like top five biggest that they own and they just don't do anything with it.
Max Roberts 44:03 And it has a show, it actually has a a good show, a well received show.
Logan Moore 44:08 Yeah.
Max Roberts 44:09 Um
Logan Moore 44:09 Popularity for Fallout is enormous and it they just don't do anything with it.
Logan Moore 44:15 And you know the people within Microsoft are probably not
Logan Moore 44:19 Thrilled with that.
Logan Moore 44:21 So you ready for my fifth one?
Max Roberts 44:21 Yeah, I think I think w Fall at New Vegas gets some form of love.
Max Roberts 44:27 All right.
Logan Moore 44:29 The outlandish one?
Max Roberts 44:29 Yeah.
Max Roberts 44:30 Uh yeah, give me that outlandish Xbox prediction.
Logan Moore 44:34 Um so as we move forward into the next generation, I think the one thing that's been kind of interesting to see the past few
Logan Moore 44:44 Weeks or months here.
Logan Moore 44:45 Like the week we're recording this, a report just came out that PlayStation's now gonna go back on their
Logan Moore 44:52 exclusivity stuff.
Logan Moore 44:53 They're not gonna bring their games to PC anymore.
Logan Moore 44:55 They're multiplayer games, so like the Helldivers and stuff like that will still come elsewhere.
Logan Moore 44:59 But their single player games are gonna go back to being console exclusive.
Logan Moore 45:03 And Asha, since she has taken over, she has uh apparently said internally that they're like reevaluating how they approach exclusivity.
Logan Moore 45:12 That fan forum thing or whatever they launched this week, apparently the number one most requested thing on that right now is that they return to exclusivity.
Logan Moore 45:22 And I think both companies are kind of doing this because as we move forward into the next generation, um
Logan Moore 45:30 the people like me who, you know, buy every console, me and you who buy every console every generation, I don't think that's gonna be as prominent anymore because these things are gonna cost
Logan Moore 45:42 a thousand dollars or more.
Logan Moore 45:44 So you're really gonna have to choose what you want and where you want to spend your time.
Logan Moore 45:50 And so I think exclusives really could start playing a very important pivotal role.
Logan Moore 45:56 in the coming generation, once again, which is strange because over the past few years they've just been seen as not important.
Logan Moore 46:02 With all of that being said,
Logan Moore 46:06 I think Asha will announce that Halo remake has been canceled for PS5.
Logan Moore 46:16 She will loudly proclaim that the game will no longer release for PlayStation, and they will make a big deal about it.
Max Roberts 46:16 That's not happening.
Logan Moore 46:24 And they will say, you know how you thought you were gonna play?
Logan Moore 46:28 Our our flagship franchises game on your PlayStation?
Logan Moore 46:32 Well, not anymore, you filthy Sony ponies.
Logan Moore 46:35 Canceled!
Logan Moore 46:38 Master Chief, Xboxer for life.
Max Roberts 46:38 I
Max Roberts 46:41 I highly doubt that just given the fact it's like that game's supposed to be out in a few months, isn't it?
Max Roberts 46:47 Doesn't it have a date?
Logan Moore 46:48 Uh I don't think it has a date, but it supposedly is like June or July, is what the r rumors are saying.
Logan Moore 46:54 So yeah, pretty soon.
Max Roberts 46:56 Yeah, I just don't see I just don't see that uh
Logan Moore 47:00 They're gonna r take all the cop PS5 copies and throw 'em into a into a volcano.
Logan Moore 47:07 Make sure that they're done away with
Max Roberts 47:09 They called it Halo Campaign Evolved because they're cowards and well give us multiple deaths, so
Logan Moore 47:12 Yeah.
Max Roberts 47:18 Ugh anyway.
Max Roberts 47:19 Um I like the energy.
Max Roberts 47:22 I don't think that's happening.
Max Roberts 47:24 I actually would think the
Max Roberts 47:25 opposite would happen and they'd be like, and here's the Master Chief collection for PlayStation as well.
Max Roberts 47:30 Because that game actually was in the works and was supposed to be announced but didn't.
Logan Moore 47:33 Yeah.
Max Roberts 47:35 Like I I think it's more likely that Halo does jump all the way over
Max Roberts 47:39 Especially now the gears is there.
Max Roberts 47:40 But I like the energy.
Max Roberts 47:41 I like it.
Logan Moore 47:42 She's gonna s see that the fans long for exclusives, and she's gonna say.
Logan Moore 47:47 Master Chief can never be played with a dual sense controller.
Logan Moore 47:52 Cancel all the canceled all the PS5 versions!
Logan Moore 47:56 And all around the world, the PS5 dev kits within Xbox gaming studios will be chucked out the windows.
Logan Moore 48:04 And and Mark Cerning will feel a disturbance.
Max Roberts 48:11 Alright.
Max Roberts 48:12 Uh well mine's not as exciting.
Max Roberts 48:15 Um it's a regular, I guess another regular one for me.
Max Roberts 48:19 And mostly just because this is selfish and I want it.
Max Roberts 48:23 But it's gotta be time now.
Max Roberts 48:25 Death Stranding 2 is out.
Max Roberts 48:27 He's done with it.
Max Roberts 48:30 I don't know what Jordan Peel's doing.
Max Roberts 48:33 He's producing movies.
Max Roberts 48:34 I don't know if that was making a movie.
Logan Moore 48:36 He's produced him, the football horror movie, or whatever.
Max Roberts 48:39 Oh, that's right.
Max Roberts 48:40 He did produce that.
Max Roberts 48:41 Um but overdose.
Max Roberts 48:44 We're finally gonna see gameplay for overdose.
Max Roberts 48:47 This
Max Roberts 48:50 I want Kojima horror.
Max Roberts 48:52 It's been so long.
Max Roberts 48:54 It's what was it?
Max Roberts 48:57 PT had an anniversary of like 10 years, not terribly long ago, which feels absurd.
Logan Moore 49:01 Yeah
Max Roberts 49:04 Um this game's gotta come out and I would love if it was this year.
Max Roberts 49:10 It would that would be great.
Max Roberts 49:12 That would be sick.
Max Roberts 49:13 Uh, but I think we just get gameplay.
Max Roberts 49:15 I'm gonna hedge it a little bit.
Max Roberts 49:16 And we see gameplay for overdose.
Logan Moore 49:22 I would love that.
Logan Moore 49:24 I mean he's been pretty upfront with what he's doing right now.
Logan Moore 49:28 Like at the end of every year, start of every year, he kind of gives a
Logan Moore 49:32 like a state of the Kojima tweet address or whatever and says, like, Oh, this year I hope to do X, Y, and Z and doesn't sound like they're close to releasing anything, but he has said blatantly they're working on
Max Roberts 49:39 And that
Logan Moore 49:44 OD a lot.
Logan Moore 49:46 And yeah, I think we could see something uh from it pretty soon.
Max Roberts 49:47 Yeah.
Max Roberts 49:49 What's the subtitle?
Max Roberts 49:50 There's a subtitle for knock.
Max Roberts 49:52 That's right.
Max Roberts 49:53 Overdose
Logan Moore 49:54 It was the knock trailer is what they had called it.
Logan Moore 49:57 So I think it was just a poster for that specific reveal or whatever.
Max Roberts 50:02 Oh all right, don't Google the word overdose knock.
Max Roberts 50:06 Google
Max Roberts 50:07 Google AI will say call 911 immediately.
Max Roberts 50:10 I was like, uh no, I'm just talking about a video game, guys.
Max Roberts 50:14 Um
Logan Moore 50:14 Thank you.
Max Roberts 50:16 Yeah man, I don't I wanna see this I want this game.
Max Roberts 50:21 Please come out, Kojima.
Logan Moore 50:22 I keep forgetting it's a thing.
Logan Moore 50:25 Just because it's been so yeah, it's
Max Roberts 50:25 Yeah.
Max Roberts 50:26 Forever.
Max Roberts 50:27 It was announced in tw June of twenty two
Max Roberts 50:33 So it's only been four years.
Max Roberts 50:35 That's that was just their partnership.
Logan Moore 50:37 Yep.
Max Roberts 50:38 That was just the partnership announced.
Logan Moore 50:38 I was gonna say when did he announce it on stage at the Jeffy's?
Max Roberts 50:44 That was twenty three
Logan Moore 50:48 Okay.
Logan Moore 50:49 So yeah, it feels like next year is feasible.
Max Roberts 50:51 Do you remember the the leaked gameplay that showed Margaret Qually running around in a dark area?
Logan Moore 50:57 Yes, yes
Max Roberts 50:59 I've believed that so much because I it, you know, he clearly loves Margaret and uh she was in Death Stranding.
Max Roberts 51:07 Wild
Logan Moore 51:08 It's kind of sad.
Logan Moore 51:09 I was thinking about this the other day.
Logan Moore 51:11 It's kind of sad moving forward how leak culture's gonna become.
Logan Moore 51:15 Because back in the day
Logan Moore 51:17 Somebody wanted to fake leak something, you really gotta jump through some hoops to do it.
Max Roberts 51:21 That's what I wrote about.
Max Roberts 51:23 That's what I wrote about with Super Mario Titans.
Logan Moore 51:26 Oh, was it?
Max Roberts 51:27 Yeah, it's i 'cause I was like
Max Roberts 51:29 Sure, this game is probably not real, but these screenshots are amazing.
Max Roberts 51:33 And like the fact that they were able to like get the zeitgeist talking about this, these fake screenshots is like
Max Roberts 51:40 And it makes you think back to like the Grinch leak with Smash Brothers and just There there was an art to the leak and now
Logan Moore 51:49 And now now it's just AI slop a lot of times, unfortunately.
Max Roberts 51:52 Yeah.
Max Roberts 51:54 Sh sure.
Max Roberts 51:55 And it's uh yeah.
Max Roberts 51:57 The leak you used to have to work for it.
Max Roberts 52:00 These kids these days, they'll never know.
Logan Moore 52:05 All right
Logan Moore 52:06 You choose the second one.
Logan Moore 52:07 I ch I chose the I chose the first one.
Logan Moore 52:09 I chose Xbox, so you can choose where we want to go next.
Max Roberts 52:13 Okay.
Max Roberts 52:14 I well I always like saving Nintendo for last.
Max Roberts 52:18 And I think Nintendo probably honestly is the most interesting just because their console's just a year old.
Max Roberts 52:24 But also, it seems like a lot of their stuff is leaked, but they have the most like forward potential.
Max Roberts 52:29 So I'm gonna save Nintendo for last on that basis.
Max Roberts 52:32 So we're gonna jump to PlayStation.
Max Roberts 52:35 And I'll go first this time.
Max Roberts 52:37 Well, shake it up.
Max Roberts 52:39 Hmm.
Max Roberts 52:40 I'll go super safe.
Max Roberts 52:43 There's a gameplay demo for Wolverine and it is shown alongside the Collector's Edition, which will not include the game a physical copy of the game.
Logan Moore 52:55 Oh of course I won't.
Logan Moore 52:57 It'll be digital.
Logan Moore 52:58 Of course.
Max Roberts 52:58 Yeah.
Logan Moore 52:59 It's always how it is.
Logan Moore 53:00 It's the worst.
Max Roberts 53:02 Thanks, Wolfenstein.
Max Roberts 53:04 I think that was like one of the first games I remember not coming with the game.
Max Roberts 53:09 Or like a physical copy of it.
Max Roberts 53:11 It was one of the Wolfensteins, I think.
Logan Moore 53:12 I remember that yeah, yeah, I think
Max Roberts 53:13 Um But yeah, I mean the game is out this year.
Max Roberts 53:19 They have shown
Max Roberts 53:20 A trailer, two trailer, like they haven't shown an extended they haven't shown gameplay at all officially.
Max Roberts 53:26 Gameplay leaked out the wazoo.
Logan Moore 53:27 I was gonna say officially.
Max Roberts 53:29 Yeah.
Max Roberts 53:30 So I think we're gonna see that.
Max Roberts 53:31 And if I had to like imagine what it is, I think it's
Max Roberts 53:36 Early level honestly is the stuff from the leak, but maybe the marketing would be like, no, show something new here.
Max Roberts 53:43 But I would think it's like a solo demo with him like in that
Max Roberts 53:48 I don't know, should I say what we saw?
Max Roberts 53:50 Whatever.
Max Roberts 53:50 The thing we saw, uh, I think would be a kind of an interesting scenario.
Max Roberts 53:54 But then
Max Roberts 53:56 I think this would also be the impetus to push the marketing campaign even harder and be like, here's the collector's edition, here's what comes with the digital edition, and like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Logan Moore 54:05 I mean, we're four months away.
Logan Moore 54:07 It's it's very soon we'll be playing this game.
Max Roberts 54:10 Will there be PS5 Pro plates finally?
Max Roberts 54:14 Probably not.
Logan Moore 54:15 Probably not for sure.
Max Roberts 54:17 Probably not.
Logan Moore 54:18 No one's buying that thousand dollar console to justify them to make a line of plates for it.
Logan Moore 54:24 as well, as unfortunate as that is
Max Roberts 54:27 I just want the plate I just wanted plates.
Max Roberts 54:29 I've I tried so hard to get those Spider Man plates too.
Logan Moore 54:33 I don't understand why they don't mass produce this stuff a little bit more, but you know, I don't run I'm not Herman.
Logan Moore 54:39 I don't make these decisions.
Max Roberts 54:40 Could you just imagine
Max Roberts 54:42 What were they?
Max Roberts 54:43 Fifty bucks, sixty bucks for two pieces of plastic?
Logan Moore 54:45 Yeah.
Max Roberts 54:47 The margins on those have to be sick.
Max Roberts 54:50 Sh you can I can still buy the Spider-Man 2 Collector's Edition.
Max Roberts 54:54 Why can I not buy the plates?
Max Roberts 54:55 The plates have to be cheaper.
Logan Moore 54:57 Same with the 30th anniversary stuff.
Logan Moore 54:59 Like I can understand, you know, making something like the PS5 Pro exclusive or whatever and numbering that to a thousand or
Logan Moore 55:07 Those sorts of things.
Logan Moore 55:08 But like, why would you not want like 10 million thirtieth anniversary dual sense controllers on hand?
Logan Moore 55:15 You'd probably sell a lot of them.
Logan Moore 55:17 I don't know if controllers sell at that high of a clip, but like
Logan Moore 55:20 You could have easily sold millions of them.
Max Roberts 55:21 I would have bought one.
Max Roberts 55:25 I only bought the portal, but yeah, I would have bought the controller.
Logan Moore 55:26 Like w I
Logan Moore 55:29 I still have the controller and it's still in its box and I'm like afraid to open it and play with it.
Logan Moore 55:33 Like I will at some point, but like knowing that it is like this hard to get thing makes me feel like I shouldn't?
Max Roberts 55:41 You gotta use it, dude.
Logan Moore 55:42 I don't know.
Max Roberts 55:43 It's so it's so good looking.
Logan Moore 55:43 Yeah, I will.
Max Roberts 55:45 And honestly, like uh
Max Roberts 55:47 Well, they're not Xbox, so they're not gonna make 10 million different controller variants, but like there's just so much potential there.
Max Roberts 55:54 But anyway.
Logan Moore 55:56 The one thing I'll say about Wolverine real quick is Insomniac has continued to like
Logan Moore 56:02 double, triple, quadruple down on like we will show the game this spring.
Logan Moore 56:07 And it's currently May nineteenth
Logan Moore 56:11 Technically I know that spring runs until like June twentieth or twenty first or something like that.
Max Roberts 56:18 Yep, that is correct.
Logan Moore 56:20 So that's technically spring still.
Logan Moore 56:22 So like I guess they're really gonna adhere to
Logan Moore 56:26 the seasonal calendar with this.
Logan Moore 56:28 Uh, but when they say that we're gonna show something in spring, to me that reads, you know, March through May.
Logan Moore 56:35 Uh so if we do get into June and we haven't seen anything, that'll be I don't they could they can use the they can you know say that they were not lying all along, but
Max Roberts 56:35 Wasn't there
Logan Moore 56:48 I I don't know.
Max Roberts 56:48 I thought there was a recent leak that said
Logan Moore 56:49 Doesn't feel right to me.
Max Roberts 56:55 there was a state of play like coming, which is not a surprise.
Logan Moore 56:58 Oh yeah.
Max Roberts 56:58 Like it's super easy to say that.
Max Roberts 57:00 I mean you could you could print that article any day of the week.
Logan Moore 57:03 Yeah, it's either gonna be end of end of May, early June, or supposedly what the leaks are saying.
Max Roberts 57:03 Um
Max Roberts 57:06 Yeah, so okay, yeah, I mean probably is given our s recording luck.
Logan Moore 57:08 So it could be next week, but
Max Roberts 57:15 Yeah.
Max Roberts 57:16 I think
Max Roberts 57:17 Wolverine's like it's a game like that I want to get, right?
Max Roberts 57:23 But I also am like
Max Roberts 57:26 I don't I think I need to see it to like really get excited for it, you know?
Max Roberts 57:30 And I did willingly read the entire plot so like I know where it's all going.
Max Roberts 57:36 Um I was just so curious about it.
Max Roberts 57:39 It's so fascinating.
Logan Moore 57:40 Well, it's just hard too, because you know that like this is the plan for yes, this is the next 15 years of insomniac.
Max Roberts 57:43 For the next fifteen years.
Max Roberts 57:46 Yeah.
Logan Moore 57:48 And it's like cool.
Logan Moore 57:49 They make great games, I'm sure Wolverine will be great.
Logan Moore 57:51 Spider-Man 3 will be great.
Logan Moore 57:53 This like Wolverine 2 or X-Men game I'm sure will be good too, but like
Max Roberts 57:53 It makes you wonder, like, where is Venom?
Max Roberts 58:00 Where is the Venom game?
Logan Moore 58:01 Supposedly that's still in the works.
Logan Moore 58:03 The one of the people tied to the game said it was canceled.
Logan Moore 58:06 The the voice actor behind uh of Miles Morales said it was cancelled.
Logan Moore 58:10 He's like, yeah, they had to cancel it after
Logan Moore 58:13 Uh the guy who plays Venom died.
Max Roberts 58:14 The actor died.
Logan Moore 58:16 Yeah, he's like, oh yeah, they scrapped it.
Logan Moore 58:18 And then Jason Trier came down and was like, this is not true.
Logan Moore 58:22 So
Logan Moore 58:24 uh supposedly still exists, but I don't know.
Logan Moore 58:27 Maybe maybe they're gonna launch the PS6 with it.
Logan Moore 58:30 They're gonna pull a Miles Morales and that'll be the launch game with it, since that worked out so well for them last time.
Logan Moore 58:37 So
Logan Moore 58:38 Alright.
Logan Moore 58:38 Um, I feel like this has to be my first prediction because of kind of the nature of it, and it will set up some of my other predictions.
Max Roberts 58:45 Ooh, it's like a multi-tiered strategy.
Logan Moore 58:47 Maybe not maybe maybe maybe not, but um I mean my prediction is just that
Logan Moore 58:55 The summer event will be a proper showcase and not a state of play.
Max Roberts 59:00 Ah, okay.
Logan Moore 59:02 I think that they have not done a showcase in a hot minute.
Logan Moore 59:06 They have really stopped with that branding.
Logan Moore 59:10 But I think it w I think when they do do a showcase, it's like indicative of like we're gonna have multiple things to say about first party games.
Logan Moore 59:17 Because usually state of plays, it's just like
Logan Moore 59:21 They'll hone in on one, maybe two first party games, if you're lucky.
Logan Moore 59:26 Um I think they'll have some more things to say this time, mainly because I'm just looking at how the generation's gonna round out here.
Logan Moore 59:34 And I'm sure there are other things that we'll talk about in our predictions.
Logan Moore 59:38 Um, but there are like three or four pretty prominent studios that need to start.
Logan Moore 59:43 talking about their games.
Logan Moore 59:46 Um, so just call it a showcase.
Max Roberts 59:47 The last the last showcase oh my goodness was May twenty-fourth of twenty twenty-three.
Logan Moore 59:56 Okay, so three years old
Max Roberts 59:57 Games featured.
Max Roberts 01:00:01 Just very quickly I'm gonna just pick the highlights, like the first party highlights.
Max Roberts 01:00:06 Fair Games, Helldivers 2, uh Oh, Foam Stars was in there.
Logan Moore 01:00:09 Yuck.
Max Roberts 01:00:13 Uh Delta, Metal Grassal Delta was in there, Allen Wake 2.
Logan Moore 01:00:13 Oh
Max Roberts 01:00:17 Um going skimming very, very quickly.
Max Roberts 01:00:20 Residue of 4 VR mod.
Max Roberts 01:00:23 Marathon.
Max Roberts 01:00:24 I think that was the one where Marathon was revealed.
Max Roberts 01:00:26 Spider-Man 2.
Max Roberts 01:00:29 The final shape.
Max Roberts 01:00:31 Uh Destiny 2, the final shape, and uh rest in peace, Concord.
Max Roberts 01:00:36 So yeah, that is a proper
Logan Moore 01:00:38 So the last PlayStation showcase was cursed beyond belief, basically.
Max Roberts 01:00:42 A little bit.
Max Roberts 01:00:43 Well, but also there were some real bangers in there.
Max Roberts 01:00:46 Like Helldivers Tube obviously went on to great launch success and I think has had pretty good support.
Max Roberts 01:00:53 Um, a lot of good games in there.
Max Roberts 01:00:54 And obvious I would say obviously Marathon, great.
Max Roberts 01:00:58 That trailer is still very good.
Max Roberts 01:01:00 Um
Max Roberts 01:01:01 What's interesting is is also of course the showcase like this was like 72 minutes.
Max Roberts 01:01:07 The state of place surrounding it are 20, 30.
Max Roberts 01:01:12 minutes.
Max Roberts 01:01:13 I mean there have been 40-minute state of plays.
Max Roberts 01:01:16 Oh, I guess the February state of play was 72 minutes, dang.
Logan Moore 01:01:19 That was the longest state of play ever, I believe, yeah.
Max Roberts 01:01:22 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:01:23 Well, we'll see.
Max Roberts 01:01:25 But yeah, they have not done anything branded showcase since May of 23.
Max Roberts 01:01:29 So yeah, it would be they are overdue to use it.
Max Roberts 01:01:32 Alright.
Max Roberts 01:01:34 In following the uh format I did for Xbox, I will do this one next.
Max Roberts 01:01:39 Herman breaks glass and announces an uncharted
Max Roberts 01:01:46 I have realized something uh in my brain.
Max Roberts 01:01:51 I miss
Max Roberts 01:01:53 single player cover shooter narrative driven set piece of video games and we have not had one in quite some time and as uh James Bond first light gets closer and closer
Logan Moore 01:02:04 I was gonna say we've got James Bond coming up real c real soon here, so
Max Roberts 01:02:08 And I like as we get closer to it, I was like not I was like, that will be a good game.
Max Roberts 01:02:15 I'm I I'll play it someday.
Max Roberts 01:02:17 But as the launch gets closer,
Max Roberts 01:02:19 I'm like, I want to play this because it's there's something familiar about it, both in that I.
Max Roberts 01:02:27 O.
Max Roberts 01:02:28 and the hitman engine and like that, just that gameplay, but then putting it within the str restraint of a
Max Roberts 01:02:34 an actual narrative instead of the loose narrative that Hidman has and some bombastic set pieces.
Max Roberts 01:02:39 I rewatched the story trailer.
Max Roberts 01:02:41 I showed it
Max Roberts 01:02:42 My mother-in-law asked me what I wanted for my birthday and I showed her this and she was like, whoa, that looks so cool.
Max Roberts 01:02:49 You know, because what the they still have their Wii hooked up, you know, like she it it's gonna impress her no matter what.
Logan Moore 01:02:55 It's been a bri big leap since we sports.
Max Roberts 01:02:58 Uh-huh.
Logan Moore 01:02:58 Lots happened.
Max Roberts 01:02:59 There's I mean they straight up do the Uncharted 3 airplane set piece where it blows up out of the sky and he's fall.
Logan Moore 01:03:05 Mm-hmm.
Max Roberts 01:03:07 And that's one of the greatest video game set pieces ever.
Max Roberts 01:03:11 Like yes, rip it off.
Max Roberts 01:03:13 So what I'm saying is
Max Roberts 01:03:15 I miss that kind of game.
Max Roberts 01:03:17 And I think Sony needs they keep obviously.
Max Roberts 01:03:21 I think that would bring a lot of goodwill.
Max Roberts 01:03:23 Obviously not Naughty Dog making it.
Max Roberts 01:03:25 They're busy with Intergalactic the Heretic Prophet.
Max Roberts 01:03:27 And then the last was part three, they'll probably never make an uncharted game again.
Max Roberts 01:03:32 Um but I think that doesn't mean they can't put a team on it.
Max Roberts 01:03:37 And there were the rumors that San Diego was working on one and
Logan Moore 01:03:40 Well, what did you think about the recent teases from the Lost Legacy director?
Logan Moore 01:03:47 Like he posted I don't know if you saw that.
Logan Moore 01:03:49 No, Sean SK SKG or whatever.
Max Roberts 01:03:51 Oh, 'cause he came back.
Max Roberts 01:03:53 That's right.
Logan Moore 01:03:53 He came back after leaving for Avengers, I think it was, and he returned and
Max Roberts 01:03:54 He did It was.
Max Roberts 01:03:58 And he came back for part one
Logan Moore 01:04:01 Uh-huh.
Logan Moore 01:04:01 And he h he's helming something, but no one knows what.
Logan Moore 01:04:05 And he posted a picture on uh I think Instagram like a couple of weeks or months ago.
Logan Moore 01:04:12 And he just titled uh the picture like research or something like that.
Logan Moore 01:04:17 And it was like a scenic setting and an old canon.
Max Roberts 01:04:21 Canon.
Max Roberts 01:04:22 I'm I'm looking at it now.
Logan Moore 01:04:23 And people were like clearly like, okay, well this screams uncharted, so what are you doing?
Logan Moore 01:04:29 And it would make sense for him to come back and like
Logan Moore 01:04:32 be the one to helm that out because it it feels like not only was Uncharted 4 passing of the torch for
Logan Moore 01:04:40 uh, you know, Nathan Drake himself, the main character of the series, but it felt like it was for like that that era of Naughty Dog and that team at Naughty Dog.
Logan Moore 01:04:48 And I can't see Neil wanting to return to it, but somebody like Sean, I think
Logan Moore 01:04:52 could feasibly do something with the series.
Logan Moore 01:04:55 So like I think it's possible.
Logan Moore 01:04:57 I think that that that you know Neil's team could be doing intergalactic and they could be spinning up and uncharted on the side there.
Logan Moore 01:05:03 I don't think hope is lost for N Naughty Dog to
Logan Moore 01:05:06 Make an uncharted game once again.
Max Roberts 01:05:09 I missed I missed this news entirely.
Max Roberts 01:05:11 This is actually very exciting to me.
Max Roberts 01:05:13 Um
Max Roberts 01:05:15 That would be sick, honestly.
Max Roberts 01:05:17 Uh apparently according to Reset Era, this photo was taken at Fort George in Trinidad and Tobago, which is obviously a very
Max Roberts 01:05:27 uncharted e setting.
Logan Moore 01:05:29 It it looks like something ripped out of Uncharted 4, for sure.
Max Roberts 01:05:29 I mean Yeah, and and obviously the way four ends
Max Roberts 01:05:36 It's set up perfectly for the next kind of generation and uncharted.
Max Roberts 01:05:41 And then obviously they can do whatever they want, like with Lost Legacy, where they just pick a great a character from the cast and send them on an adventure.
Max Roberts 01:05:48 Like it doesn't
Logan Moore 01:05:48 Mm-hmm.
Max Roberts 01:05:49 This could be like a Sully prequel, like Sully doing something with a young name.
Max Roberts 01:05:53 Like it can be anything.
Max Roberts 01:05:54 That would be uh that would be so
Max Roberts 01:05:58 Cool what if they did it?
Max Roberts 01:06:00 What if they did it again where the Naughty Dog opens and closes a show where they psych everyone?
Max Roberts 01:06:06 Do you remember that?
Logan Moore 01:06:07 I do.
Max Roberts 01:06:07 I think it was the You were there, weren't you?
Logan Moore 01:06:10 It was the it was the um PlayStation PSX in two thousand and sixteen.
Max Roberts 01:06:12 It was the PSX
Logan Moore 01:06:17 They opened with The Lost Legacy, um, which m
Max Roberts 01:06:21 And then closed with Last of Us 2.
Logan Moore 01:06:23 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:06:24 Yep.
Max Roberts 01:06:24 You were there, weren't you?
Logan Moore 01:06:25 Yeah, I was in like the fifth row with Michael Ruiz.
Max Roberts 01:06:28 That was to be there would have oh that would have been amazing.
Logan Moore 01:06:32 It was fun.
Logan Moore 01:06:34 It was very, very fun
Max Roberts 01:06:35 Uh but yeah, I think Uncharted gets announced.
Max Roberts 01:06:38 I think it would
Max Roberts 01:06:40 kind of invigorate the fan base a little bit.
Max Roberts 01:06:44 Um be very positive in this sea of like
Max Roberts 01:06:49 We're canceling all these live service game you know, Blue Point gets shut down because they were making a live service game and all this like I think it would be like here's something you want and it would be done well.
Logan Moore 01:07:03 I think I mean this is I wouldn't mind this personally, but I do worry
Logan Moore 01:07:10 Like Uncharted 4 ended and it felt like the natural passing of the torch was to like, you know, have Cassie it's Cassie, right?
Max Roberts 01:07:17 Uh Cassidy, I think.
Logan Moore 01:07:17 Have her become I thought it was Cassie Drake.
Max Roberts 01:07:20 Oh no, it it is.
Max Roberts 01:07:23 It's played by uh Caitlin Denver.
Logan Moore 01:07:26 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:07:27 I feel like the natural thing is to, you know, have her be the main protagonist, but like
Logan Moore 01:07:31 Since that time, there's been so many new PlayStation games that have come about that have featured female protagonists and
Logan Moore 01:07:38 Well you've got a God of War game that now that seems like it's going to do that.
Logan Moore 01:07:41 Like all all of PlayStation's single player games, Yote just did it, obviously, like
Logan Moore 01:07:47 It's totally fine to have a female led games, but it seems like that's every PlayStation studio at this point.
Max Roberts 01:07:52 Like the pendulum has just swung, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:07:55 Yes, it has drastically, drastically swung the other direction.
Logan Moore 01:07:58 So I wonder I guess my fear is less so that like Cassie Drake would be the main protagonist and more that there would immediately be like
Logan Moore 01:08:06 blowback because of it, even though I mean you can't control something like that, but
Max Roberts 01:08:11 There undoubtedly will be.
Max Roberts 01:08:13 I mean, Uncharted 4 just turned 10 a few weeks ago, which is unreal to me.
Max Roberts 01:08:20 I still remember that the day that game came out and playing oh my gosh.
Max Roberts 01:08:25 Such an a such a good video game.
Max Roberts 01:08:27 Anyway, yeah, Uncharted would be sick.
Max Roberts 01:08:32 Do it, Herman.
Max Roberts 01:08:33 Break the glass.
Logan Moore 01:08:34 I'm gonna keep this very short.
Logan Moore 01:08:36 Um
Logan Moore 01:08:38 I think Intergalactic shows back up, and I think it's confirmed for next year.
Max Roberts 01:08:43 Okay
Logan Moore 01:08:44 That's the end of it.
Logan Moore 01:08:45 I don't think we're gonna see too much of it, but I think they'll show something.
Logan Moore 01:08:50 'Cause it's like this looming game.
Max Roberts 01:08:54 You took my intergalactic prediction.
Logan Moore 01:08:57 Was that the same thing you had?
Max Roberts 01:08:59 Yeah, I just said it gets a snazzy trailer.
Max Roberts 01:09:03 So yeah, same ballpark.
Max Roberts 01:09:05 Um I agree.
Max Roberts 01:09:07 I think
Max Roberts 01:09:08 Especially like we just talked about, if they did the double bookend type of thing where they're like, psych because in this scenario, I think it would be you lead with intergalactic, that's the gnome thing.
Max Roberts 01:09:20 And then you surprise with an uncharted, which would be fun.
Max Roberts 01:09:24 But yeah, Intergalac is gonna get a trailer.
Max Roberts 01:09:27 I don't think it'd be gameplay.
Max Roberts 01:09:28 That would be
Max Roberts 01:09:29 cool because this seems to be more action driven, which is a first, obviously, for the studio.
Max Roberts 01:09:36 Or in the sense that we're all thinking.
Max Roberts 01:09:39 So it'd be nice.
Logan Moore 01:09:40 I mean PlayStation d just keeps things close to the chest now, too, like like we just said with Wolverine, like
Logan Moore 01:09:45 We're four months away and still haven't seen official gameplay for this game.
Logan Moore 01:09:48 Like, what are we doing?
Logan Moore 01:09:49 So I don't think we're gonna see Intergalactic in action for a hot minute either.
Max Roberts 01:09:50 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:09:54 Yeah, I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:09:55 So
Max Roberts 01:09:56 We'll see.
Max Roberts 01:09:56 We'll see how Naughty Dog likes to do it.
Max Roberts 01:09:58 They always uh amp it up.
Max Roberts 01:10:01 All right.
Max Roberts 01:10:03 Alright, I'll take what I assume is on yours, so I'll counter you here.
Max Roberts 01:10:07 Uh Sony Santa Monica finally reveals a video game in the year of our lord 2026.
Max Roberts 01:10:14 And it is uh all about what is his wife's name?
Max Roberts 01:10:20 The giant Faye.
Max Roberts 01:10:21 See, I wrote Freya and I was like, it's not Freya, it's Faye.
Max Roberts 01:10:24 It is the Faye game that has been rumored uh in the internet wept.
Max Roberts 01:10:29 I also wrote that this is what they've been working on.
Max Roberts 01:10:34 So yes.
Logan Moore 01:10:34 I have I have a prediction for this game too, and I think it's different enough that I will still predict it.
Max Roberts 01:10:40 Why don't you throw it out there and we'll just talk about it all in the hole here then?
Logan Moore 01:10:40 Cause I added some
Logan Moore 01:10:43 Okay.
Logan Moore 01:10:44 Uh my prediction is I'm calling this wife of war.
Logan Moore 01:10:48 Wife of war will be will be revealed.
Logan Moore 01:10:51 to end the show, so it will be the final thing.
Logan Moore 01:10:54 And Cory's face will appear.
Logan Moore 01:10:58 I think like after they do the trailer, Cory will pop up and be like, hi everybody, Corey Barlog here.
Logan Moore 01:11:03 from Sony Cena Monica Studio.
Logan Moore 01:11:05 You've just seen our first look at Wife of War.
Logan Moore 01:11:08 Be prepared to be Kratos' wife.
Max Roberts 01:11:12 The second one
Logan Moore 01:11:13 Nothing.
Logan Moore 01:11:15 Yes.
Logan Moore 01:11:16 Not the not the dead one.
Logan Moore 01:11:17 Not the first dead one.
Logan Moore 01:11:18 I should say they're both dead.
Max Roberts 01:11:20 This is true, they're both dead.
Max Roberts 01:11:23 But it the second one wasn't his fault.
Logan Moore 01:11:26 Not that we know of it
Max Roberts 01:11:29 This is true.
Max Roberts 01:11:30 That'd be wild.
Max Roberts 01:11:31 That'd be crazy.
Max Roberts 01:11:31 He's got that's why he's he's whiter.
Max Roberts 01:11:33 He has more ashes embedded into his skin.
Max Roberts 01:11:37 Um man
Logan Moore 01:11:40 Yeah, these are the two official titles I've landed on.
Logan Moore 01:11:43 Wife of War and A Trace Goes to College.
Max Roberts 01:11:46 Well, Trace goes to college has been a long time joke between the two of us on the on the show, so yes.
Max Roberts 01:11:52 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:11:55 Man, I just we don't we haven't seen the game, so I should be I should hold my judgment
Max Roberts 01:12:02 Until then.
Max Roberts 01:12:04 You know, I replayed Ragnarok last year.
Max Roberts 01:12:06 I did the Valhalla DLC.
Max Roberts 01:12:08 Like
Max Roberts 01:12:10 Game's still good.
Max Roberts 01:12:11 I just have problems with the story.
Max Roberts 01:12:13 And it just that game should have been two games.
Max Roberts 01:12:17 Um
Logan Moore 01:12:17 But they can't make three Norse games, even though they're gonna make three Norse games.
Max Roberts 01:12:20 Like yeah, no.
Logan Moore 01:12:23 For some reason, you know, you're not going to be able to do that.
Max Roberts 01:12:23 Yes.
Max Roberts 01:12:24 I just this is not the direction I thought God of War would go.
Max Roberts 01:12:33 Like and God of War is in a weird spot and it was in a weird spot back at the end of the PS3 era
Max Roberts 01:12:41 with um with ascension and was like, well what are we gonna do with him now?
Max Roberts 01:12:45 Um and they they turned it around miraculously right in 2018.
Max Roberts 01:12:49 It's a legendary
Max Roberts 01:12:52 Reboot, but also sequel.
Max Roberts 01:12:55 It's it's spectacular.
Max Roberts 01:12:57 So not not to say they can't do it again, but this just doesn't feel like a step forward.
Max Roberts 01:13:05 Narratively at least for sure.
Max Roberts 01:13:07 Mechanically it could be if it's that DMC style game that action-eve that kind of has been floating around rumor-wise, but
Max Roberts 01:13:16 I don't know, man.
Max Roberts 01:13:17 I just I really would like to just explore a new pantheon.
Max Roberts 01:13:23 Get us into Egypt or Japan or whatever.
Max Roberts 01:13:28 Or maybe this game will tell us who blew the horn and we'll be good.
Logan Moore 01:13:34 I think like this to me is spoilers for Ragnarok coming up.
Logan Moore 01:13:40 You have three seconds to skip for.
Logan Moore 01:13:43 This game to me, again assuming that all the leaks and rumors about it are accurate and all that, feels like what they would have done in a world where Ragnarok killed off Kratos at the end of the game.
Logan Moore 01:13:57 You know, like Kratos is dead, so we can't continue the series anymore with him.
Logan Moore 01:14:02 But like we have to continue God of War, so what else can we do?
Logan Moore 01:14:05 And this feels like an idea they would have come up with.
Logan Moore 01:14:09 But Kratos isn't dead, so you can continue things onward with him if you want to.
Logan Moore 01:14:14 And they're just not, and we're doing a prequel that sounds like a step backwards, yes, narratively for sure.
Max Roberts 01:14:22 And I know you haven't played the Valhalla DLC, but it does.
Logan Moore 01:14:27 I know what it entails, uh for sure.
Max Roberts 01:14:29 Do you know narratively like where it puts Kratos?
Logan Moore 01:14:31 Yes, yes, yes.
Max Roberts 01:14:32 Like his title?
Logan Moore 01:14:34 I know uh yes
Max Roberts 01:14:36 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:14:37 See that's like an interesting thing that would give an excuse to maybe go visit somewhere else or do something else.
Logan Moore 01:14:45 Yes.
Max Roberts 01:14:46 And I always loved
Max Roberts 01:14:48 the little T like 'cause this could totally fit in a game where we travel a little bit.
Max Roberts 01:14:53 But like you always talked about going back to Greece.
Max Roberts 01:14:56 like l current Kratos going back to Greece.
Max Roberts 01:14:59 And I think that would be such a great moment, even if it's just a small thing.
Max Roberts 01:15:04 Um, especially with all the
Max Roberts 01:15:07 With the Athena stuff from 2018.
Max Roberts 01:15:09 Gosh, what a legendary scene too, by the way.
Max Roberts 01:15:14 Gosh, that canoe where he goes get the blades is so good.
Logan Moore 01:15:17 And that doesn't and that was never really fully that sort of aspect of
Max Roberts 01:15:22 Never came back.
Logan Moore 01:15:22 Like his character yeah, that never popped back up in Ragnarok, so like apparently he's still plagued by Athena's ghost or like just thoughts of her or I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:15:34 Like, that's still an
Max Roberts 01:15:34 Cause she's still around, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:15:36 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:15:37 So like he could go back to Greece not only to, you know, like rebuild it or whatever or fix what he destroyed once upon a time, but also
Logan Moore 01:15:45 um end his own lingering suffering from Athena and find a way to get rid of her.
Logan Moore 01:15:51 I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:15:51 Like there's a conflict there and you can do something with it.
Max Roberts 01:15:52 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:15:54 Sure.
Max Roberts 01:15:54 I it's it's something to but this just doesn't feel like moving that overall narrative forward in any way.
Max Roberts 01:16:00 It it feels like a s a step back in some way.
Max Roberts 01:16:04 But
Max Roberts 01:16:05 We should give them the benefit of the doubt.
Max Roberts 01:16:07 I mean, Sony Santamanca does make incredible games.
Max Roberts 01:16:11 I just uh
Logan Moore 01:16:12 Corey's got like a near flawless track record, I feel like.
Logan Moore 01:16:15 So like I put total trust in him, like
Logan Moore 01:16:20 I he could make a Dora the Explorer video game, I would play it.
Logan Moore 01:16:26 Like, you know, like I completely trust Corey and I will be there.
Max Roberts 01:16:27 Mm-hmm.
Logan Moore 01:16:30 Day one.
Logan Moore 01:16:31 But you and I are like God of War super fans and like what we've heard about this game does not instill much excitement.
Logan Moore 01:16:37 And so that sucks
Max Roberts 01:16:39 We'll see.
Max Roberts 01:16:40 We'll see.
Max Roberts 01:16:41 But all right.
Max Roberts 01:16:44 Two horizon projects are shown off.
Logan Moore 01:16:50 Oh my gosh.
Max Roberts 01:16:52 We are going to s obviously see uh what is it called?
Max Roberts 01:16:56 It's Horizon
Logan Moore 01:16:58 Hunter's Gathering, I think
Max Roberts 01:17:00 Thank you.
Max Roberts 01:17:01 Uh Hunter's Gathering, which had a beta, a closed beta, the same weekend as the Marathon Server Slam, which just always struck me as
Max Roberts 01:17:13 Weird.
Max Roberts 01:17:13 But yes.
Max Roberts 01:17:14 So that is coming to PS5 and PC with no date, thank God, because one of my annual predictions is that
Max Roberts 01:17:22 Soros, MLB, Marathon, and Wolverine are the only first party games out this year.
Max Roberts 01:17:28 Um God, they just like Fortniteified Horizon.
Max Roberts 01:17:32 Um
Logan Moore 01:17:33 I hate it so much.
Max Roberts 01:17:34 Anyway, I th it's so bad.
Max Roberts 01:17:36 Um well I shouldn't say bad, it's just different.
Max Roberts 01:17:40 It it but the game could be quite fun.
Max Roberts 01:17:43 Anyway
Logan Moore 01:17:44 No, you can say you can say it's bad.
Logan Moore 01:17:46 The more I looked at it, you could say it's bad.
Logan Moore 01:17:48 It's okay.
Max Roberts 01:17:49 The art does not does not my speed
Logan Moore 01:17:52 It's just it's exactly what you said.
Logan Moore 01:17:54 It's it'd be one thing if this was like an art style they were going for.
Max Roberts 01:17:56 It's like anime Fortnite, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:17:59 Yeah, it's clearly riffing on Fortnite, like, way too closely.
Logan Moore 01:18:03 And I don't want to say Fortnite, you know, owns an art style or anything like that, but
Max Roberts 01:18:08 There is an art to it, but anyway
Max Roberts 01:18:14 It's been quite a while.
Max Roberts 01:18:15 There was the gosh.
Max Roberts 01:18:17 There was Horizon Zero Dawn remastered not terribly long ago.
Max Roberts 01:18:22 Uh, but it's been a very long time since the like a new horizon.
Max Roberts 01:18:25 So they could show off Horizon three.
Max Roberts 01:18:27 That wouldn't be so
Max Roberts 01:18:29 Shocking.
Max Roberts 01:18:30 There's of course the online game, the other one that they've been working on for ages, so that could show up.
Max Roberts 01:18:36 I don't think they would have two online horizon games at the same time.
Max Roberts 01:18:40 But also I say projects because we could see the TV show, we could see whatever, like they could tease
Logan Moore 01:18:49 I forgot they have that.
Max Roberts 01:18:50 Yeah, all sorts of things for Horizon.
Max Roberts 01:18:53 But there's there will be two Horizon things.
Max Roberts 01:18:55 Uh Hunter's Gathering and then I personally think three, which I feel like is overdue for a reveal.
Max Roberts 01:19:03 It feels overdue.
Logan Moore 01:19:05 But we've also got the like mobile MMO thing they're doing or whatever the heck that is.
Max Roberts 01:19:10 Right.
Max Roberts 01:19:11 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:19:11 Which is only on mobile, I think.
Max Roberts 01:19:11 I
Logan Moore 01:19:14 Or maybe it's on PC too, but no PlayStation.
Max Roberts 01:19:16 Probably PC, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:19:18 No PlayStation at all, which is crazy.
Max Roberts 01:19:21 So
Max Roberts 01:19:23 Yeah, Horizon's gonna get a lot of love.
Max Roberts 01:19:25 Uh and we all know Herman loves loves him some Horizon, so.
Logan Moore 01:19:30 Alright, I have a horizon prediction too, and this is very broad, and you can score this one however you want one year from now when we come back.
Max Roberts 01:19:33 Ooh.
Logan Moore 01:19:38 And do this again.
Logan Moore 01:19:40 I just wrote the Horizon co-op game will take up way too much time during this broadcast.
Max Roberts 01:19:50 Oh my gosh, that's funny.
Logan Moore 01:19:51 So use your own judgment of what you think too much time is.
Logan Moore 01:19:58 I can just totally see it in like the middle of the broadcast being like the thing that they won't shut up about for like ten minutes.
Logan Moore 01:20:05 Like and in Horizon Hunters Gathering, you can do this and don't oh, and we're also gonna do this.
Logan Moore 01:20:10 And it's like, oh my gosh, move to the next thing already.
Logan Moore 01:20:13 I I don't care.
Logan Moore 01:20:13 What's next?
Logan Moore 01:20:14 We've only got 20 minutes of this show left.
Logan Moore 01:20:17 What is the next thing?
Logan Moore 01:20:18 Like, because there's always something like that in each of these shows.
Logan Moore 01:20:22 And I think it will be this for this event.
Max Roberts 01:20:26 Okay, so I only had one backup PlayStation prediction and I didn't
Max Roberts 01:20:31 I didn't love it, but I'm gonna have to pull it out.
Max Roberts 01:20:36 Because when I later looked up the research, and you probably can correct me, and if s if
Max Roberts 01:20:41 If this is incor if my thought is incorrect, then I will make up a prediction on the fly.
Max Roberts 01:20:46 But I had down Ben's next project is teased.
Max Roberts 01:20:51 But then when I was looking it up
Max Roberts 01:20:53 They said they were working on a new game based off days gone's like open world tech.
Max Roberts 01:20:59 But then last year the their live service game was canceled, but I couldn't tell if those were the same thing.
Max Roberts 01:21:05 So I don't know if Ben's actually working on anything.
Logan Moore 01:21:09 I think they're working on something or maybe they're like pitching again or something weird.
Max Roberts 01:21:14 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:21:14 See this feels like not as exciting because I'm unsure.
Logan Moore 01:21:15 Um
Max Roberts 01:21:19 And media molecule is kinda in the same boat.
Max Roberts 01:21:21 Polyphony.
Max Roberts 01:21:22 They're just gonna make GT stuff.
Max Roberts 01:21:25 Bend felt like the most the team LFG's not gonna have anything, of course.
Max Roberts 01:21:34 They'll probably be shut down before the year's end.
Max Roberts 01:21:36 They just shut down that Dark Alley detective studio, whatever, from Mr.
Max Roberts 01:21:41 Call of Duty.
Max Roberts 01:21:43 Uh Nix's days are Nixie's days are numbered, it seems.
Logan Moore 01:21:43 I forgot about that.
Max Roberts 01:21:47 Um
Max Roberts 01:21:49 If they're really gonna be ending their PC ports.
Max Roberts 01:21:54 Slim Pickens, and then uh what is it, Sucker Punch uh is doing the last major update for the online ghost of Tsushima stuff.
Max Roberts 01:22:04 So this is the on the fly prediction.
Max Roberts 01:22:08 A PS two mascot is revived.
Logan Moore 01:22:12 That would be nice.
Logan Moore 01:22:14 I would love that.
Max Roberts 01:22:15 I don't want to commit to like Sly or Jack or whatever.
Max Roberts 01:22:19 Crazy if Jack came back or ratchet, but the thing is is we know where Ratchet's coming, so it's like, well, not gonna be Ratchet.
Logan Moore 01:22:27 I hope so.
Logan Moore 01:22:28 Either that or a PS3 era.
Logan Moore 01:22:30 PS2 or PS3.
Logan Moore 01:22:32 There's plenty of things back there.
Logan Moore 01:22:33 Let's see some hellgasts.
Max Roberts 01:22:35 Some resistance
Logan Moore 01:22:35 Let's do it.
Logan Moore 01:22:39 Uh I forgot about resistance.
Logan Moore 01:22:41 That would be sick.
Logan Moore 01:22:42 Um, okay, here's my final one.
Logan Moore 01:22:45 Capcom.
Logan Moore 01:22:46 They're spreading the love at the showcases this year.
Max Roberts 01:22:47 Oh,
Logan Moore 01:22:50 They're going to Xbox with Dead Rising, and then they're coming to PlayStation with Code Veronica remake.
Logan Moore 01:22:58 I think this is where we see it.
Max Roberts 01:22:58 So soon.
Logan Moore 01:23:00 Yeah, supposedly supposedly it's next year.
Logan Moore 01:23:02 Like early next year.
Max Roberts 01:23:03 I believe that, but I would I would be shocked to see it announced just three months after Requiem, but
Logan Moore 01:23:10 It would seem a little crazy.
Logan Moore 01:23:12 Um, but I mean if it's next year, this follows their cadence of, you know, announcing the summer release and
Logan Moore 01:23:22 February, March ish.
Logan Moore 01:23:24 That usually seems to be their go-to sort of cadence with these things.
Max Roberts 01:23:27 Right
Logan Moore 01:23:27 So if it's ready to go, then it's ready to go.
Logan Moore 01:23:30 And we also had a larger gap of time, because for a while there there was new Resident Evil games out like
Logan Moore 01:23:36 every year for a few years there.
Max Roberts 01:23:38 Oh yeah.
Logan Moore 01:23:38 Um and then we had a there was a break for a year or two after
Max Roberts 01:23:38 It was a beautiful time to be alive.
Logan Moore 01:23:45 remake, I believe.
Logan Moore 01:23:47 Uh four remake until Requiem just now.
Logan Moore 01:23:50 I think there was a break of two years.
Logan Moore 01:23:52 So
Logan Moore 01:23:53 I'm willing to believe they did a lot in those two years and they've got some stuff lined up and ready to go.
Max Roberts 01:23:54 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:23:59 So um
Logan Moore 01:24:01 Yeah, let's see it.
Logan Moore 01:24:03 Code Veronica.
Max Roberts 01:24:05 Okay.
Logan Moore 01:24:05 Show me show me Claire in remade graphics.
Max Roberts 01:24:09 I like it.
Max Roberts 01:24:11 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:24:12 That leaves us with a Nintendo, the Big N
Max Roberts 01:24:17 Logan.
Max Roberts 01:24:18 I know you just went, but in the interest of keeping the alternation going between sets here, what is your first
Max Roberts 01:24:28 Nintendo prediction.
Max Roberts 01:24:29 Please don't take mine.
Logan Moore 01:24:31 Um, I'm gonna just do the obvious one with the twist.
Max Roberts 01:24:36 Ooh.
Logan Moore 01:24:36 Um
Logan Moore 01:24:38 So the obvious prediction is that there's a remake of Ocarina of Time on the horizon.
Logan Moore 01:24:46 I think that's real.
Logan Moore 01:24:48 I think it's shown off here, but I think Nintendo's also gonna talk about the next Zelda game as well.
Logan Moore 01:24:57 And mention that they're doing.
Logan Moore 01:24:59 They're either gonna tease it with a trailer of its own or mention that it's happening or something like that.
Logan Moore 01:25:05 Because of all of their series, I feel like we've talked about this before too.
Logan Moore 01:25:09 Of all of their franchises, Zelda is always the one that they give like years in advance a heads up of like, hey, we're working on this.
Logan Moore 01:25:19 And you can look forward to it at some point.
Logan Moore 01:25:21 It's been like that.
Logan Moore 01:25:23 Going back to, you know, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, maybe not Skyward Sword as much.
Logan Moore 01:25:28 I feel like that turnaround was a little bit more quicker.
Logan Moore 01:25:31 More quick, but uh Breath of the Wild, uh Tears of the Kingdom as well.
Logan Moore 01:25:35 Like they, you know, the sequel to the Bre Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild is now in development.
Logan Moore 01:25:39 Like they announced that way early.
Max Roberts 01:25:41 Way too early, some might say.
Logan Moore 01:25:44 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:25:45 And so I think um I think they do that here
Logan Moore 01:25:51 Um, unless the Tears of the Kingdom or main Zelda team has really like unless this Ocarina of Time remake like has been the project of the A team on Zelda, I would imagine there's
Logan Moore 01:26:03 multiple Zelda games in the pipeline.
Max Roberts 01:26:06 The other factor is Zelda is an annual franchise.
Max Roberts 01:26:09 There's been an annual Zelda game, uh, every
Max Roberts 01:26:13 year since before I want to say like right before the Switch came out, there's been a Zelda game every year.
Logan Moore 01:26:13 Of some sort, yeah.
Max Roberts 01:26:20 So obviously we got Hyrule Warriors 2
Max Roberts 01:26:24 This year already.
Max Roberts 01:26:25 So and and the Ocarina of Time one probably will also come this year, so it's kind of a rare double dip, but
Max Roberts 01:26:32 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:26:32 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:26:33 So I also had a prediction about Ocarina of Time.
Max Roberts 01:26:36 I won't uh obviously use that.
Max Roberts 01:26:39 I want to ask you though, and get it on the record, do you think this is a
Max Roberts 01:26:44 More like more on the remaster side of a remake?
Max Roberts 01:26:48 Or do you think this is more of a remake remake with maybe a reimagining of mechanics, an approach?
Max Roberts 01:26:55 Um
Max Roberts 01:26:56 a new visual style, like where th what they did with like uh Link's Awakening, where it was like this whole new art style for it.
Max Roberts 01:27:03 What do you think is the approach here for this one?
Max Roberts 01:27:06 Because I'm kind of torn on what I think the game
Max Roberts 01:27:10 will be like That's where are we
Logan Moore 01:27:12 I think it will lean more towards actual remake remake side.
Logan Moore 01:27:19 And the reason I say that is because we've already had, you know, the 3DS one, which was more of not a remaster, but kind of, but not really.
Max Roberts 01:27:29 Remaster with quality of life improvements.
Logan Moore 01:27:29 Um
Logan Moore 01:27:32 Remaster por yeah, I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:27:35 It's weird because it's like I guess a 3DS is more powerful than a
Logan Moore 01:27:39 Than a Nintendo 64, but it's like just the transition from a home console to a handheld, a weird thing to quantify.
Logan Moore 01:27:46 Um anyway, yeah, I think it'll be more of a remake.
Logan Moore 01:27:49 I think the visual style is gonna be
Logan Moore 01:27:52 I really think they're gonna be aiming for like realism.
Logan Moore 01:27:55 Like within a to a certain degree, I don't think they're gonna do a change up to uh to the art style drastically and make it more
Logan Moore 01:28:04 whimsical like you mentioned with like Link's Awakening or anything like that.
Logan Moore 01:28:07 I can't see that.
Logan Moore 01:28:08 Um especially because people have always been
Logan Moore 01:28:12 Like Zelda's always been hyper-stylized in different ways, but there is times where Nintendo's tried to lean into realism a bit a bit more
Logan Moore 01:28:20 And they haven't done that since the switch to the HD consoles.
Logan Moore 01:28:25 So I could see them wanting to try that finally.
Max Roberts 01:28:29 Yeah, the last one would have been Twilight Princess and Twilight Princess HD would have been the last like realistic Zelda.
Logan Moore 01:28:37 Yeah, I guess yeah that that remaster on Wii U would have been the last like HD version, but obviously that's still
Max Roberts 01:28:45 Yeah, still, where do I go?
Logan Moore 01:28:46 Somewhat limited by its original version.
Logan Moore 01:28:48 Yeah, so I think they're gonna try to go for a more realistic looking uh Zelda.
Max Roberts 01:28:56 If I I think it's more remake territory as well, and I think the big thing would be
Max Roberts 01:29:03 a shake up in the structure of the game instead of you have to go here, here, and then here, they open it up somehow, where it's like you can tackle this stuff in any order.
Logan Moore 01:29:11 That'd be cool.
Max Roberts 01:29:15 You uh and honestly, it would be kinda cool.
Max Roberts 01:29:18 I have not played it, but it would be kinda cool if they took everyone's expectations and subverted them in a very Final Fantasy VII remake sort of way.
Max Roberts 01:29:26 Not break it up into things, but like
Max Roberts 01:29:28 You think this is gonna happen and then something happens and they like they really play with the formula of the game while having the spirit of it.
Max Roberts 01:29:36 Because Ocarina of Time obviously is still the highest rated game of all time, uh, on Metacritic
Logan Moore 01:29:44 I think so, yeah.
Max Roberts 01:29:45 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:29:46 Like it's it's untouchable in that way, and I think the best way to approach it is actually to reimagine it and reinvent it um while honoring it still.
Max Roberts 01:29:55 Now
Max Roberts 01:29:56 Will Nintendo do that?
Max Roberts 01:29:58 I it doesn't feel super likely, but they could.
Max Roberts 01:30:02 Um I don't know.
Max Roberts 01:30:04 So we'll see, but yeah, Ocarina time will
Max Roberts 01:30:08 Especially given the Star Fox accuracy, which was the other half of the that rumor slash leak report or whatever at the time, uh, this feels like a 100% guarantee now.
Max Roberts 01:30:18 So Okay
Logan Moore 01:30:20 Hopefully they just reveal it and get it out of the way.
Logan Moore 01:30:23 Like that's my fear.
Logan Moore 01:30:24 I know that I've obviously predicted that, but
Logan Moore 01:30:26 They have a history of, you know, they usually have this showcase and then another direct come like what September or whatever.
Logan Moore 01:30:34 Hopefully they don't save it for that one.
Logan Moore 01:30:36 I really hope they just show it here.
Logan Moore 01:30:38 Get it.
Logan Moore 01:30:40 out in everybody's faces so that we can quit talking about it.
Max Roberts 01:30:43 Mm-hmm.
Logan Moore 01:30:44 Because if they don't, then the conversation's just gonna turn towards Well, they didn't reveal it, but we know it's still a thing, so when are we gonna see it and it's just gonna be looming over them for
Max Roberts 01:30:54 Forever
Logan Moore 01:30:54 months.
Logan Moore 01:30:55 So just just show it.
Logan Moore 01:30:56 Just announce it.
Max Roberts 01:30:58 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:30:59 I will go with a major update andor DLC pack.
Max Roberts 01:31:07 For Mario Kart World is announced.
Max Roberts 01:31:11 The game is about to hit one year, as long as the Switch 2.
Max Roberts 01:31:15 Donkey Kong Bonanza got DLC before Mario Kart World.
Max Roberts 01:31:19 Um
Max Roberts 01:31:20 They have been patching the game fairly regularly, uh, with tweaks, quality of life improvements, adjustments.
Max Roberts 01:31:29 Uh, I think there will be a major update.
Max Roberts 01:31:32 if not themed, because they found all the the community found all those like Donkey Kong character voice lines and stuff in the files.
Max Roberts 01:31:39 So like sure there could be a Donkey Kong themed
Max Roberts 01:31:43 world or island, but I think there's a major update for the game announced.
Max Roberts 01:31:49 Uh and that's how they kick, you know, like that would be a really fun way to rein in the first year of the game and the console.
Max Roberts 01:31:56 It's like here's more.
Logan Moore 01:31:58 Seems like a slam dunk.
Logan Moore 01:32:00 I feel like that I'm I'm more surprised it kind of hasn't happened yet, but they probably want to give it one year on the market before they start trying to
Max Roberts 01:32:09 But because it's so obvious to us, that means it won't happen until until the end of the console's life, like they did with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
Max Roberts 01:32:16 They're like, here's 24 new tracks.
Logan Moore 01:32:17 Which makes no sense.
Logan Moore 01:32:21 That's so crazy.
Logan Moore 01:32:22 I've never even played those tracks because it came so late, so I should though.
Max Roberts 01:32:25 They're a good time, especially the So the ones from Tour, the mobile game, are like not as thrilling because
Max Roberts 01:32:33 visually they're not super striking.
Max Roberts 01:32:36 They have interesting ish mechanics, but it's from the mobile game, so it's it
Max Roberts 01:32:41 They only go so far.
Max Roberts 01:32:42 The levels that were made specifically for the Switch and the DLC are very cool.
Max Roberts 01:32:49 Um and kind of give you a taste of
Max Roberts 01:32:54 what world would become when you go back and think about it with like routing and options and things like that.
Max Roberts 01:32:59 So
Logan Moore 01:32:59 Um, okay.
Logan Moore 01:33:01 I don't love most of my other Nintendo predictions here.
Logan Moore 01:33:04 I feel like this is
Logan Moore 01:33:06 I don't have anything s too spicy, I will say.
Max Roberts 01:33:09 You gotta bring the spice buddy.
Logan Moore 01:33:11 It's weird.
Logan Moore 01:33:12 I feel like they're in a weird spot.
Logan Moore 01:33:13 Not in a weird spot or a a bad spot, but
Logan Moore 01:33:18 They've just kind of had their thunder stolen from them with these leaks and I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:33:26 I mean it's great, I'm excited for an Oak Green of Time remake, but you know
Logan Moore 01:33:30 I I don't I I just wonder how much more they're gonna talk about things that are coming out this year.
Logan Moore 01:33:36 Because if that's their big like holiday game, then we already know that, you know, they've got
Logan Moore 01:33:41 Yoshi this week, I think.
Logan Moore 01:33:43 Splatoon Raiders they've got coming up.
Logan Moore 01:33:45 They've got Fire Emblem coming up, which they're clearly gonna talk about.
Logan Moore 01:33:48 And then Zelda as well.
Logan Moore 01:33:50 So like that kind of looks like their year.
Logan Moore 01:33:53 Star Fox too, I don't know if I mentioned that.
Logan Moore 01:33:55 Uh and well well I'll just I'll just throw this one out there too because this is technically one.
Logan Moore 01:34:00 We'll start here.
Logan Moore 01:34:01 Uh the Dusk Bloods
Logan Moore 01:34:04 From from software reappears, and I think the game is out in October.
Max Roberts 01:34:11 Okay.
Logan Moore 01:34:11 That is my prediction.
Max Roberts 01:34:14 All right
Logan Moore 01:34:15 So again, that's another game they've got coming up that we know is on the horizon for this year.
Logan Moore 01:34:22 They've continued to reiterate that it will be out this year.
Logan Moore 01:34:25 So like their 2026 seems pretty
Logan Moore 01:34:28 Locked.
Logan Moore 01:34:28 And I wonder how much they're gonna talk about what's beyond this year.
Logan Moore 01:34:33 That usually seems more like their September direct where they kind of tease what's in the year to come.
Max Roberts 01:34:37 Yeah, where they start teasing, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:34:39 So like I feel like this could be an underwhelming direct even if with the games they're showing off are like they look really great, but like it's just gonna be a bunch of stuff we know.
Max Roberts 01:34:50 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:34:51 So I'll kinda ride off those
Max Roberts 01:34:54 uh the coattails a little bit.
Max Roberts 01:34:56 Um because but Nintendo does play things very six to eight months out when they talk about their games.
Max Roberts 01:35:06 And when you write it down and you look at it, we've got Star Fox here in June.
Max Roberts 01:35:12 We've got Rhythm Heaven and Splatoon Raiders in July.
Max Roberts 01:35:16 Fire emblem, uh rumors apparently say September, but sometime this year, desk bloods, sometime this year, and then Ocarina of Time again sometime this year, probably.
Max Roberts 01:35:26 more in the winter fall and for those three.
Logan Moore 01:35:30 Yeah, the report said holiday, I think.
Max Roberts 01:35:31 So if you s yeah.
Logan Moore 01:35:33 So that's like
Max Roberts 01:35:34 So let's say ocarine of time is November, Dust Bloods is October, like you said, Fire Emblem September.
Max Roberts 01:35:39 So boop boop boop boop.
Max Roberts 01:35:41 Maybe nothing in August because of the Rhythm Heaven Splatoon Raiders kind of stacking.
Max Roberts 01:35:45 I think Splatoon is at the end of July anyway.
Max Roberts 01:35:48 I think there's at least one more surprise title.
Max Roberts 01:35:53 for the year and I get kind of if it is if anything with Smash Brothers happens for this year, it's a switch to enhanced edition of Ultimate, which would be
Max Roberts 01:36:05 you know, a nice band-aid to carry over.
Max Roberts 01:36:07 They've done a few of those already this year with like Super Mario Brothers Wonder.
Max Roberts 01:36:11 Um Tomodachi Life technically like runs better on Switch 2.
Max Roberts 01:36:17 But I think in the surprise category, I think Luigi's Mansion
Max Roberts 01:36:25 Finally comes back.
Max Roberts 01:36:27 Three sold incredibly well on the Switch.
Max Roberts 01:36:31 I have to assume that's what Next Level Games has been working on is the next Luigi's Mansion.
Max Roberts 01:36:38 Um it would be a great showcase for Switch 2 graphics, 4K.
Max Roberts 01:36:44 Heck, they technically could put ray tracing in it, which would just be an absurdist thing to say.
Max Roberts 01:36:51 Uh, but I think a Luigi's mansion title is announced.
Logan Moore 01:36:57 I think that makes sense.
Logan Moore 01:36:58 I've actually been I did not write that down on my predictions, but I've been thinking the same thing for a while now.
Logan Moore 01:37:03 That's clearly like a
Logan Moore 01:37:06 priority franchise for them now.
Logan Moore 01:37:10 Kind of don't want to say quietly because they've been doing a lot with it, you know, between the
Logan Moore 01:37:15 The Luigi's Mansion 2 remaster thing they did and then 3, like they've continued to put pretty heavy emphasis on that series over the years.
Logan Moore 01:37:25 Um
Logan Moore 01:37:26 So, yeah, it's clearly gonna continue, especially since the third one was by far the most successful game of them all.
Logan Moore 01:37:34 So
Logan Moore 01:37:36 Um Okay, let's see which of my uh
Logan Moore 01:37:44 We'll just do this.
Logan Moore 01:37:46 Um kinda ties in with Zelda a little bit, because I obviously think this will be one.
Logan Moore 01:37:52 Uh but I wrote three remakes slash remasters will be announced.
Logan Moore 01:37:58 So I guess this could technically include third party as well.
Logan Moore 01:38:01 But like if Zelda happens, boom, there's one.
Logan Moore 01:38:05 But I think we'll see at least three total.
Logan Moore 01:38:07 I really think Nintendo is gonna keep relying on their back catalog for these first
Logan Moore 01:38:12 couple of years here.
Logan Moore 01:38:14 Um they're obviously still doing plenty of new things.
Logan Moore 01:38:18 Um but they have really been leaning on the you know these switch two editions and
Max Roberts 01:38:23 I was gonna ask, does that count if they are announcing a
Logan Moore 01:38:26 I don't think no, I wouldn't I wouldn't count that no.
Logan Moore 01:38:29 So like if we get Super Smash Bros.
Logan Moore 01:38:31 Ultimate Switch 2 edition, I would say no.
Max Roberts 01:38:34 Okay, cause my first thought was actually like
Max Roberts 01:38:40 Yeah, because the I I think a few of those will be announced.
Max Roberts 01:38:43 I'm kinda hoping for Papermeyer Thousand Year Door to be one of them.
Logan Moore 01:38:49 That'd be sweet.
Max Roberts 01:38:51 I would I would buy that game again.
Logan Moore 01:38:51 I would like that.
Logan Moore 01:38:55 I would be a big fan.
Logan Moore 01:38:58 Pay for the upgrade fee.
Max Roberts 01:39:00 Put that game at 4K60.
Max Roberts 01:39:02 Come on, do it.
Max Roberts 01:39:02 Just give us that, you know, sweet, sweet 60.
Max Roberts 01:39:07 I'm going to copy your style.
Max Roberts 01:39:11 I had this written down, but I'm going to use your delivery.
Max Roberts 01:39:16 You've talked about Capcom being at Xbox.
Max Roberts 01:39:19 You've talked about Capcom being at PlayStation.
Max Roberts 01:39:21 Capcom will appear at Nintendo.
Logan Moore 01:39:21 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:39:26 And they will finally, finally announce Ace Attorney Seven
Max Roberts 01:39:34 All of the games have been ported.
Max Roberts 01:39:37 There is nothing left.
Max Roberts 01:39:39 Give us the new ace attorney, please.
Max Roberts 01:39:44 Uh yes.
Max Roberts 01:39:45 And and Nintendo makes sense.
Max Roberts 01:39:46 Like I get that Ace Attorney is multi-platform now, but Nintendo would be the logical place to announce it.
Logan Moore 01:39:50 Nintendo's Yeah,
Max Roberts 01:39:53 Um
Max Roberts 01:39:54 I mean, really, I I don't think anyone ever expected them to not only port Miles Edgeworth investigations, but translate
Max Roberts 01:40:06 the sequel from Japan, which is like when they did that, I was like, okay, all of Ace Attorney is complete now.
Max Roberts 01:40:14 We've we've got Grace Ace Attorney from the 3DS.
Max Roberts 01:40:17 We've got the the you know the core
Max Roberts 01:40:20 Two trilogies, it's time.
Max Roberts 01:40:24 Give us ace attorney seven.
Logan Moore 01:40:26 They can only move forward.
Max Roberts 01:40:29 Yes, there's the only like the only thing would be
Logan Moore 01:40:29 There's nowhere else to go in the past.
Max Roberts 01:40:36 Phoenix Wright and Leighton from the 3DS.
Max Roberts 01:40:39 But that which would be great because that game is stupid expensive and obviously inaccessible legally now.
Max Roberts 01:40:46 Um without buying a secondhand copy
Max Roberts 01:40:51 But it's not like that's not what they I think level five did that.
Max Roberts 01:40:55 I don't think it was a Capcom joint.
Max Roberts 01:40:57 Uh we need Ace Attorney 7.
Max Roberts 01:41:00 Very, very, very bad.
Logan Moore 01:41:02 I think they could do it.
Logan Moore 01:41:04 Capcom would be everywhere this year if all our if all our predictions are correct.
Max Roberts 01:41:04 I want them at the trifecta
Logan Moore 01:41:09 Big
Logan Moore 01:41:11 They're one of the few publishers that appear at all of them.
Max Roberts 01:41:13 I mean the the other thing that they could show, just in general, would be Okami.
Max Roberts 01:41:19 Because they did put up that anniversary site and like some anniversary merch, but Jeff Keeley was the only one on the site.
Logan Moore 01:41:21 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:41:26 Yeah
Max Roberts 01:41:27 Which would be funny.
Max Roberts 01:41:28 I and I know they announced the sequel, but I I don't think there'd be any substantial footage for that, but it could happen.
Logan Moore 01:41:36 Okay.
Logan Moore 01:41:38 Um my fourth one.
Logan Moore 01:41:41 I've just written down
Logan Moore 01:41:44 A new Kid Icarus game will be revealed.
Logan Moore 01:41:49 This could also include a remaster of the 3DS game.
Logan Moore 01:41:54 I wanna throw that in there as well
Max Roberts 01:41:56 Uprising.
Max Roberts 01:41:57 Just like Kid Icarus returns.
Logan Moore 01:41:58 So yes.
Logan Moore 01:42:00 Yeah, i they've talked about doing there's been rumors that they're gonna remaster that game for a while.
Logan Moore 01:42:06 Who knows how true that's those are.
Logan Moore 01:42:08 But like if that were to happen then sure that counts.
Max Roberts 01:42:13 So, my final prediction, I have a few options, and I
Max Roberts 01:42:19 There's like the one that's my heart, there's I think the most exciting one, and there's the boring one.
Logan Moore 01:42:26 Just do the exciting one.
Max Roberts 01:42:28 I think they reveal the next 3D Mario.
Max Roberts 01:42:32 I think it's the 40th anniversary still.
Max Roberts 01:42:36 The movie just made a bajillion dollars.
Max Roberts 01:42:40 The game uh Donkey Kong uh was out last year, it's at its time.
Max Roberts 01:42:46 I think the next 3D mu typically I think they would reveal this in September, but I think with the summer Zeitgeist
Max Roberts 01:42:54 A year of Switch 2.
Max Roberts 01:42:56 I think they want to do a far-off promise, and they're going to show the 3D Mario game.
Max Roberts 01:43:03 Uh
Max Roberts 01:43:04 Where Mario has superpowers, Bowser's in a supersuit, and a mode shows up, they call it Super Mario Titans.
Max Roberts 01:43:12 Uh
Max Roberts 01:43:14 I do think the next 3D Mario is revealed, is what I'll go with.
Logan Moore 01:43:19 I almost thought of doing something with that, but I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:43:26 I feel like they're gonna sit on this for a bit.
Max Roberts 01:43:29 I just think it's the anniversary and I think they want like we talked about this year's pretty much set.
Max Roberts 01:43:38 So I think they want to give one far-off thing.
Max Roberts 01:43:42 And I just the only other thing, and you may predict this, but the only other thing that I think they would be comfortable
Max Roberts 01:43:52 announcing super far in advance is Smash Brothers because surely Sakurai is involved
Max Roberts 01:44:02 Poor man.
Max Roberts 01:44:03 Um, but with Kirby Air Riders uh he skepped.
Logan Moore 01:44:04 Against his will
Max Roberts 01:44:07 He's like, let me make Kirby and then I will do it.
Max Roberts 01:44:10 But Kirby Air Riders is out.
Logan Moore 01:44:13 Did pretty well.
Max Roberts 01:44:13 And was done and did well and was at you know done years ago.
Max Roberts 01:44:17 So Soccer has been working on something else in the, you know, in the lead up to writers.
Max Roberts 01:44:24 So I think like the next Smash game could be it, and they would they would they announce Smash far enough in advance usually.
Max Roberts 01:44:31 But I don't know.
Max Roberts 01:44:33 I think I think the anniversary is what's really m making me focus on Mario.
Max Roberts 01:44:38 And like they've they've had a really solid kind of start here to the year.
Max Roberts 01:44:42 And I think just putting that, you know, little thing there is like
Max Roberts 01:44:48 The next 3D Mario is coming.
Max Roberts 01:44:50 We'll talk more about it soon.
Max Roberts 01:44:52 Here's like, you know, the name.
Max Roberts 01:44:54 Here's a teaser.
Max Roberts 01:44:55 What have you.
Logan Moore 01:44:56 I would be excited.
Logan Moore 01:44:57 That would be there.
Max Roberts 01:44:59 Oh we all would.
Logan Moore 01:45:01 That's the reason why you own a switch too.
Max Roberts 01:45:04 I don't know if it's the reason why I own one, but it's a reason.
Logan Moore 01:45:07 It's one of them at least one of the big ones.
Max Roberts 01:45:08 Yeah, it's not
Logan Moore 01:45:11 Um okay, my final one.
Logan Moore 01:45:13 Did you you said that was your final one, but I think you still have one more, right?
Logan Moore 01:45:18 Cause I went first, so this is my final one.
Max Roberts 01:45:19 Oh no, you're right.
Max Roberts 01:45:20 No, you're right.
Max Roberts 01:45:21 I do have one more.
Max Roberts 01:45:22 This one was buried in the order.
Max Roberts 01:45:24 I didn't reshuffle things.
Max Roberts 01:45:25 So you're right.
Max Roberts 01:45:26 I do have one more.
Logan Moore 01:45:27 Alright, uh my last one again.
Logan Moore 01:45:29 Not not that exciting, but I think we're due for a new Wario game.
Logan Moore 01:45:39 And this could be I'll just say new Wario game broadly.
Logan Moore 01:45:46 My mind's thinking like new WarioWare, something or another.
Logan Moore 01:45:49 I think it's
Max Roberts 01:45:50 There was a WarioWare game just a couple of years ago though.
Logan Moore 01:45:54 Yeah, I'm not saying there hasn't been one in, you know, a decade.
Logan Moore 01:45:58 But like it feels like the cadence is about right for a new one of those to emerge.
Logan Moore 01:46:03 So that's why I think it could be WarioWare.
Logan Moore 01:46:05 But I I can also see them doing something like new, like Wario world-ish with Wario.
Max Roberts 01:46:15 See, I think that's where they would go because it feels like the Wario land platformer is having a moment in the indie scene with
Logan Moore 01:46:26 That and it just came to switch online, which obviously if this is a real thing, then this is or the virtual console.
Max Roberts 01:46:30 Oh, with the virtual boy?
Logan Moore 01:46:35 It came to the GameCube catalog I'm talking about.
Max Roberts 01:46:36 Are you sor
Max Roberts 01:46:38 Oh, you mean the the GameCube one, not the not Wario Land 3 or whatever on the Virtual Boy.
Logan Moore 01:46:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:46:44 No, no, no, no.
Logan Moore 01:46:46 Sorry.
Max Roberts 01:46:46 Which also gave Dennis oh
Logan Moore 01:46:49 It did.
Logan Moore 01:46:51 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:46:51 It did it very much didn't have to be a little bit more than a little bit.
Logan Moore 01:46:53 But yeah, I think there's some juice tied to Wario for them to tap into.
Max Roberts 01:47:02 Okay.
Logan Moore 01:47:02 And they haven't for a very long time.
Logan Moore 01:47:05 So let's do something.
Logan Moore 01:47:06 It's one of my favorite Nintendo characters.
Logan Moore 01:47:08 They could do something with them.
Max Roberts 01:47:11 Alright, I like it.
Max Roberts 01:47:12 Do you see that mobile game they announced last night that feels like WarioWare but isn't?
Logan Moore 01:47:16 I did.
Logan Moore 01:47:17 It's a little weird.
Max Roberts 01:47:18 It reminds me of the the 3DS game that was installed, uh AR Face Raiders, where you take a picture.
Logan Moore 01:47:26 For I forgot about that, yeah.
Max Roberts 01:47:27 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:47:28 You got the cards and all that.
Max Roberts 01:47:29 Yeah, and your your heads would fly around and you'd move with the gyro to aim and shoot.
Max Roberts 01:47:35 It's a good time.
Logan Moore 01:47:36 It's any time
Max Roberts 01:47:38 Okay, so you're right.
Max Roberts 01:47:40 I did have one more prediction.
Max Roberts 01:47:41 Number three was like in the list, like I had already said it, but I didn't read this one.
Max Roberts 01:47:46 Uh and I don't think I will, because
Max Roberts 01:47:50 I think it's a lock and I'm gonna go with the heart.
Max Roberts 01:47:53 The heart says despite despite bad sales.
Logan Moore 01:48:00 Metroid Prime Five
Max Roberts 01:48:01 No, not no not that.
Max Roberts 01:48:03 Just a new Metroid game of the 2D Persuasion is uh announced.
Max Roberts 01:48:08 I think it's been a while since Dread.
Max Roberts 01:48:11 I think Mercury Steam is due.
Max Roberts 01:48:13 For some new hotness.
Max Roberts 01:48:15 Now, I'll just say a new 2D Metroid game is announced.
Max Roberts 01:48:20 I don't want to lock it just to Mercury Steam, but
Logan Moore 01:48:24 They just have layoffs.
Max Roberts 01:48:26 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:48:26 A game they released last year I know did not do well.
Max Roberts 01:48:29 Uh just for the sake of the record, the other prediction that I am deleting now from my note was Miyamoto reveals the first teaser footage for the Legend of Zelda film.
Logan Moore 01:48:40 Mmm.
Logan Moore 01:48:42 I feel like they'll do a dedicated direct for that or something.
Logan Moore 01:48:46 Or they could err well, I was gonna say they
Max Roberts 01:48:48 Yeah, the thing is is like they could do it like all eyes would be on them.
Max Roberts 01:48:51 It's Zelda's 40th.
Max Roberts 01:48:53 It could lead into the game for Ocarina.
Logan Moore 01:48:57 They could do like a larger cast reveal like they did with the Mario movie, like
Max Roberts 01:49:00 Yeah, it's like
Logan Moore 01:49:01 And playing Impa is Angelina Jolie or something, you know, like random stuff like that.
Max Roberts 01:49:08 Ganondorf is Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
Logan Moore 01:49:13 In Tingle played by Elijah Wood.
Max Roberts 01:49:16 Tingle would have to be someone's weird Al Yankovic.
Logan Moore 01:49:21 There you go.
Max Roberts 01:49:22 It's gotta be somewhat goofy.
Logan Moore 01:49:23 He's so cool, that's what Miyamoto would say.
Max Roberts 01:49:25 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:49:28 Daniel Radcliffe is uh a linebacker
Logan Moore 01:49:34 I keep forgetting that's a thing and that we're less than a year away from live action Zelda movie.
Max Roberts 01:49:41 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:49:41 What I don't
Max Roberts 01:49:44 From the man who did the last Planet of the Apes movie.
Logan Moore 01:49:48 I know.
Logan Moore 01:49:50 I mean I hope it's good, I guess.
Logan Moore 01:49:52 Like I just it feels like one of those things where it's like
Max Roberts 01:49:55 The Mario the first Mario movie was a was good and was a fun time.
Max Roberts 01:49:59 The second Mario movie was a fun time, not very good.
Max Roberts 01:50:02 Uh
Max Roberts 01:50:04 We'll see.
Max Roberts 01:50:05 I think uh it'll be something.
Logan Moore 01:50:09 If Link doesn't fight a giant pig, then what are you what are we even doing?
Max Roberts 01:50:09 We'll see.
Max Roberts 01:50:14 Yeah, yeah.
Logan Moore 01:50:14 Come on.
Max Roberts 01:50:15 Big pig, big pig, big pig.
Max Roberts 01:50:17 Okay.
Max Roberts 01:50:19 That does it.
Max Roberts 01:50:19 Those are our annual predictions.
Max Roberts 01:50:21 Another year in the bag, Logan
Logan Moore 01:50:23 I have uh mentioned before we started recording the I had one bonus prediction.
Max Roberts 01:50:28 The secret pick, that's right.
Logan Moore 01:50:29 One bonus prediction
Max Roberts 01:50:33 Lay it on me.
Logan Moore 01:50:34 This prediction is for Jeff's Summer Game Fest.
Max Roberts 01:50:39 Ah, a specific Jeff Keeley one
Logan Moore 01:50:43 And the prediction is that Summer Game Fest will not come and go without Jeff Keeley mentioning the Odyssey
Logan Moore 01:50:53 and how his father contributed to its creation.
Max Roberts 01:50:56 Ah, the Keeley camera
Logan Moore 01:51:02 And then he'll encourage everybody to go see it in theaters next month.
Max Roberts 01:51:07 In a weird way, I could see somehow could see Christopher Nolan on stage.
Logan Moore 01:51:12 Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:51:13 What would he promote?
Logan Moore 01:51:14 I don't know.
Max Roberts 01:51:15 Exactly.
Logan Moore 01:51:15 Just the movie.
Max Roberts 01:51:16 Like, I don't know what he would promote.
Max Roberts 01:51:20 Maybe Matthew McConaughey's game.
Max Roberts 01:51:22 Remember when he came out and had a game?
Logan Moore 01:51:25 Yeah, I think that's coming out.
Max Roberts 01:51:25 Sci-fi game?
Max Roberts 01:51:27 Maybe that maybe it's I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:51:28 I think they're gonna show more of that soon actually
Max Roberts 01:51:32 Remember when I made a space movie with Matthew McConaughey?
Max Roberts 01:51:35 Now he's making a space video game, but I left him to make a video a movie about the Greeks.
Max Roberts 01:51:43 Remember God of War?
Logan Moore 01:51:45 I just feel like Jeff will have to mention the Odyssey and he'll say, I know this has nothing to do with video games.
Logan Moore 01:51:52 But go see the Odyssey.
Logan Moore 01:51:54 It's the first film shot entirely on IMAX.
Max Roberts 01:52:00 With a new camera that my dad helped develop and the Oscars didn't even honor him.
Logan Moore 01:52:01 And then Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:52:06 That's a bonus movie prediction.
Logan Moore 01:52:09 It's technically games, but it's a movie prediction.
Max Roberts 01:52:12 Jeff's summer thing is gonna be interesting, I think, this year because it's his first event since Highgard.
Logan Moore 01:52:21 That's true, that's a great point.
Max Roberts 01:52:22 It's
Logan Moore 01:52:23 Didn't think about that.
Max Roberts 01:52:24 Like he closed the show with High Guard right at the Game Awards twenty twenty five.
Max Roberts 01:52:35 And the game was gone.
Max Roberts 01:52:39 Two months later.
Logan Moore 01:52:39 By March, I think.
Max Roberts 01:52:41 Yeah, by March.
Max Roberts 01:52:42 You have the platinum.
Max Roberts 01:52:43 You were one of the few.
Logan Moore 01:52:44 I have platinum.
Logan Moore 01:52:46 I'm a true high garter, what can I say?
Max Roberts 01:52:46 And I just you're true I carter.
Max Roberts 01:52:51 So it makes me wonder what his structure will be, his delivery, and like what he closes the show with.
Max Roberts 01:52:59 Um I suspect it will be a known IP this time, not some new free game from a team no one heard of.
Max Roberts 01:53:11 But yeah, you know, he's he's known for hyperbolic delivery.
Max Roberts 01:53:16 What was it, Elden Ring?
Max Roberts 01:53:19 What what was the line for that
Max Roberts 01:53:22 It's like it's time Yeah.
Logan Moore 01:53:23 It's finally time.
Max Roberts 01:53:28 So I could see him having something like that that's a bit
Max Roberts 01:53:34 Keely hyperbolic.
Max Roberts 01:53:35 I I the internet I'm sure will be filled with rumors of uh GTA if GTA news hasn't happened by then, uh Half-Life 3, 'cause, you know, that's that's a real video game, but
Max Roberts 01:53:48 Isn't a real video game.
Max Roberts 01:53:50 Could see all those things.
Max Roberts 01:53:51 He's done stuff with an Augdy Dog in the past, which would be kind of cool.
Max Roberts 01:53:56 Granted, it that leaked like an hour beforehand.
Max Roberts 01:54:00 That was so sad.
Max Roberts 01:54:01 Thanks, Last of Us Part One remake.
Max Roberts 01:54:03 Um
Logan Moore 01:54:04 Don't worry they showed off the Last of Us multiplayer game images too.
Logan Moore 01:54:09 I'm sure that'll be great one day.
Max Roberts 01:54:10 Don't remind me.
Max Roberts 01:54:12 Don't remind me about that game.
Max Roberts 01:54:14 So yeah, I'm just curious how he'll structure the show, how he'll close the show.
Max Roberts 01:54:21 if you'll even talk about uh you know, in some way uh yeah, I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:54:25 No, he there's no chance he will.
Logan Moore 01:54:28 There's no chance.
Logan Moore 01:54:29 Cause yeah, because I think in doing so you're like throwing shade at the developers.
Max Roberts 01:54:33 Not even that, you're just drawing attention to the power, clearly the internet.
Logan Moore 01:54:33 Yeah
Max Roberts 01:54:37 'Cause cause everyone ganged up on it.
Logan Moore 01:54:38 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:54:40 So yeah, I don't know, but we'll we'll see.
Max Roberts 01:54:44 It's gonna be an interesting show.
Max Roberts 01:54:46 It's on my birthday this year, so I'm very excited.
Logan Moore 01:54:49 The thing I'm most I would I would pay obscene amounts of money to know this.
Logan Moore 01:54:58 over the past five years, we'll say, how many times he has gone to Rockstar and has begged for GTA Six to be in the show.
Logan Moore 01:55:12 In some capacity.
Logan Moore 01:55:13 Because you know he surely has, time and time and time again.
Logan Moore 01:55:18 And what that interaction is like.
Logan Moore 01:55:22 Maybe he just know maybe he just knows like, yeah, they'll never do work with me in this capacity.
Logan Moore 01:55:28 No thanks.
Max Roberts 01:55:28 I think it'd be the same thing of uh like a Half-Life 3 in a way.
Max Roberts 01:55:33 Like obviously he knows.
Max Roberts 01:55:35 Everyone knows
Max Roberts 01:55:37 But Valve will never do that.
Max Roberts 01:55:40 And I don't think Rockstar Rockstar doesn't need anybody, you know?
Logan Moore 01:55:45 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:55:46 Like they will just
Logan Moore 01:55:47 Rafter doesn't need anybody but Jeff needs Rockstar.
Logan Moore 01:55:50 That's kind of the thing.
Max Roberts 01:55:51 Yes.
Logan Moore 01:55:51 Because if he could save the next trailer for Grand Theft Auto 6 will debut at Summer Games Fest, do you know how many millions of eyes that thing would have on it?
Logan Moore 01:55:59 It would be his most watched anything he's ever done, ever.
Max Roberts 01:56:04 Yeah, but I don't think you're absolutely right, and I'm sure he's at least asked.
Logan Moore 01:56:05 So
Max Roberts 01:56:10 I don't I don't know about Beck, but you know, shoot your shot.
Max Roberts 01:56:13 But also, I don't think Rockstar wants to share, not that they're worried about anybody, but they don't want to share one second of the spotlight with anyone else.
Logan Moore 01:56:17 No, they don't.
Max Roberts 01:56:23 So they'll heck.
Max Roberts 01:56:26 They could they could say that the trailer's gonna drop during his thing and everyone would leave to go watch that.
Logan Moore 01:56:34 That'd be funny actually.
Max Roberts 01:56:34 Which would just that would be that'd be savage actually.
Max Roberts 01:56:37 Um not that Roxar has any reason to do so, but
Max Roberts 01:56:43 Surely something GTA will will obviously be happening this summer.
Max Roberts 01:56:48 There's nothing really here.
Max Roberts 01:56:51 We'll etch this one and
Max Roberts 01:56:53 How much will Grand Theft Auto 6 base edition cost, Logan?
Max Roberts 01:56:57 We'll just etch that in because by the time that we score this, this will be over.
Logan Moore 01:57:01 I think just seventy.
Logan Moore 01:57:03 I think they'll have different tiers though.
Max Roberts 01:57:04 Seventy on
Logan Moore 01:57:06 You know, the d they'll have the you know
Logan Moore 01:57:09 The deluxe version, the premium version, the this, that, and the other version, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Logan Moore 01:57:15 Um.
Logan Moore 01:57:17 But I think the standard edition, I don't think they're gonna go too
Logan Moore 01:57:22 Crazy with that.
Logan Moore 01:57:23 They could go 80 bucks.
Logan Moore 01:57:24 They could do the Mario Kart World and everybody would still buy it, but I just don't think they will.
Max Roberts 01:57:30 I think it'll be at least eighty dollars.
Logan Moore 01:57:30 I don't know.
Logan Moore 01:57:33 I don't think it definitely will be more than that.
Max Roberts 01:57:37 It should be, but I I think eight Zelnick
Logan Moore 01:57:37 Because even
Logan Moore 01:57:40 Well, what's his name?
Logan Moore 01:57:41 The CEO of Take Two the other day said something like, yeah, he said something about how they want to price it as low as possible.
Logan Moore 01:57:49 Like obviously they're trying to make money, but they want can
Max Roberts 01:57:51 But also they want every f everyone will buy it, but they want everyone to buy it.
Max Roberts 01:57:56 I so I
Max Roberts 01:57:58 There's so many scenarios.
Max Roberts 01:57:59 They won't do an early access offering, of course.
Max Roberts 01:58:02 That would be I mean, they would sell all of those copies, but then you've got to think of the leaks.
Max Roberts 01:58:08 Like they're gonna be protecting this thing like
Max Roberts 01:58:11 You know, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows when it was coming out.
Max Roberts 01:58:14 It's like, we cannot have this book leak.
Max Roberts 01:58:17 Uh same sort of thing.
Logan Moore 01:58:18 Yeah.
Max Roberts 01:58:19 We can't have the game leak.
Max Roberts 01:58:20 So it'll be very interesting.
Max Roberts 01:58:22 I uh
Max Roberts 01:58:23 You're probably right.
Max Roberts 01:58:25 70 is the industry standard.
Max Roberts 01:58:27 But I don't know, something in my gut says 80.
Max Roberts 01:58:30 This game costs billions of dollars to make
Max Roberts 01:58:33 Granted, GTA Online has printed chabillions of dollars, so whatever.
Max Roberts 01:58:39 It's gonna be a good time.
Max Roberts 01:58:41 But I think that does it for our annual
Max Roberts 01:58:45 Summer video game predictions.
Max Roberts 01:58:46 Thank you all so much for listening this year.
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Max Roberts 01:59:32 One day we will play Castlevania, I promise
Max Roberts 01:59:36 I promise.
Logan Moore 01:59:37 It's next on the to-do list.
Max Roberts 01:59:39 It is next on the to-do list.
Max Roberts 01:59:41 And there's a new one of those coming out this year.
Max Roberts 01:59:43 We might see we might see a little bit of gameplay this summer for it.
Max Roberts 01:59:46 So
Max Roberts 01:59:47 But thank you all so much for listening and until next time, adios